Sir absurdities are present in any given religion. For instance the stoning of the devil during the Hajj, or the act of running during Safva/Marva etc. They and many other rituals might be absurd to the eyes of a second or third party. Sunnis also turn very pious and God fearing during the month of Ramadan, and we all know what happens after the month ends.
I think you'll agree with me that we should stick to politics. Yes it is true that Iran uses Shiite Islam as a major political tool (that's vilayat-e-faqih in a nutshell) but in all fairness they're not the sole entity in doing so.
I don't deny that. It depends on your personal views after all and convictions.
Actually the stoning of the "devil" is a well-established Islamic principle and it's not really that absurd as it is a mere symbolic action and part of the larger experience of Hajj. Same with Safva. There is an consensus about those two practices in all schools of Islam too.
Meanwhile certain recent Shia practices, that I won't mention here, since we are off-topic and it would cause controversies, are not only harmful for yourself but have
nothing to do with Islamic traditions.
Anyway, as I wrote I was placing baits in the waters and moreover reaching to Blackeagle's post that I also quoted.
Ramadan is also an Islamic principle accepted by all Islamic sects.
The thing is that Shia's often use religious argumentation or the notion that they are always fighting against oppression and taking the side of the righteous. A lot of their doctrine is based on that following the First Fitna.
Also I can't think of anything in the ME/Arab/Muslim world currently which is more unjust and bloody in nature, aside from ISIS, than the very same Al-Assad regime that the only Shia theocracy in the world protects and hordes of young Shia volunteers from across the world arrive to "protect" along with the idea of them protecting a SHRINE (like that was ever important compared to actual human casualties) that is not even located in Damascus but CAIRO.
Regarding the use of religion etc., we agree. It's a dirty game and hence why I am not a big fan of "state clergies" or "career imams" as I call them.
They should stone you during the Hajj season next year....along with me
I could use a massage but I think that I will skip the stones this time around.
Time to call it a day, I have slept less than 5 hours in the past 48 hours (work, assignment, out of town and since that period numerous discussions on PDF after my break, lol)
Time to hit the bed otherwise I will miss all the football today. We can't have that. Celta de Vigo vs Real Madrid in less than 7 hours time.
Back to the Syrian conflict, may it soon end for the betterment of Syria, the Syrian people and region. Also damn our pathetic regimes especially the Arab ones for their inactive and cheap speeches in regards to Syria. I have only contempt for them nowadays. My limit has been reached. Gaddafi for all his lunatic (IMO) statements at times was right about the current Arab "leadership". Look what you made me do
@Metanoia before I turn 25,
@jamahir will have converted me to "Gaddafism"
Sir absurdities are present in
any given religion. For instance the stoning of the devil during the Hajj, or the act of running during Safva/Marva etc. They and many other rituals might be absurd to the eyes of a second or third party. Sunnis also turn very pious and God fearing during the month of Ramadan, and we all know what happens after the month ends.
I think you'll agree with me that we should stick to politics. Yes it is true that Iran uses Shiite Islam as a major political tool (that's vilayat-e-faqih in a nutshell) but in all fairness they're not the sole entity in doing so.
They should stone you during the Hajj season next year....along with me
I have spent quite a time in Eastern Province, and a little known fact which is actually lost on the entire country of Saudi Arabia is that, contrary to the popular belief, the Qatifis, and more specifically the people from Awamiyah, have an utter disdain for Iranian regime because of Vilayat-e-Faqih. Majority of them are inclined towards Sistani who is anti-Vilayat as well (separation of church and state).
I'll tell you a secret based on my personal experience....we're all the same in the end. Literally no difference...all of us are stupid regardless of ethnicity, religion, sector, blood-type.
@Saif al-Arab
I know the prevalent opinion of Shia Arabs in KSA and the GCC. If all of those millions of people really wanted to attack their fellow citizens due to small religious differences, vice versa too, KSA/GCC would have been another Syria/Iraq decades ago. Of course it is not like that and Ali Husseini al-Sistani is still the dominant "Imam/Grand Ayatollah/Marjah" for Shia Twelvers worldwide. Thank God for the Shia community because if that was Khamenei they would be in trouble.
@SALMAN AL-FARSI I will delete my post since I understand if users cannot detect the humor and context. I will leave this discussion as I think that it is is important.