Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[al-Hasani]

This is a fact which everyone acknowledges. IS, Nusrah, FSA were all made for one reason, break the Iran, Syria, Hezbollah alliance and remove any threat towards Israel as well as fight against the "threat" of Shias. IS had near full Arab backing before it decided to split from Nusrah and fight other terrorist groups.

This isn't rocket science or some sort of secret. It's as clear as the sun. I say this not to impress you but for the sake of the truth. There were moderate and nationalist Syrian people who truly wanted change and freedom. But as soon as Qatar and KSA cash started to flow in along with Alqaeda ideology things were doomed. The Qatari and Saudi money insured that there will be no dialogue with the regime under any circumstance although Bashar was very serious about dialog and change in the country. Which the Syrian people have chosen because the ME need gradual change otherwise well end up with more Iraqs, libyas, Syrias and yemens. It's a basic equation.

I personally have nothing against the Sunni people. My Sunni girlfriend, I have Turkish, Syrian and Lebanese friends who come to my house regularly. It's a political problem which the Gulf countries with their money and media turned to sectarian. Everyone here could witness it through the member tones.

As for your comment, it's has no value or significance concerning the video.

Wesley Clark was the head of NATO command FYI and not a "random idiot"

Sure, it was the GCC that told Al-Assad to mass-murder his people, it was the GCC that released hundreds of Syrian Islamists including the entire leadership of Al-Nusra from Syrian jails deliberately to poison the Syrian opposition

Assad regime released extremists from jail, says former intelligence official | The National

and it was the GCC that invaded Iraq back in 2003 and fueled the sectarianism that already had existed for a long time, created the constitution, tortured the likes of Al-Baghdad and thousands of others later to let them free. Daesh is led by people from the GCC and not local Iraqis and Syrians either.

Yes, Al-Assad's dialogue is to mass-murder his own people and barrel bomb them. Ba'athist's are really famous when it comes to comrpomises and dialogue with political opponents. That's why Syria, like Saddam-ruled Iraq, was a one-party state.

You Iraqi Shia Arabs are a strange species. Now you defend the same person that supported the Iraqi resistance more than anyone else and who opened his borders for outsiders to flood into Iraq. The same person that supported Iran against Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war.

Of course as expected not a single bad word about Iran and Russia who are deliberately keeping a mass-murdering genocidal dictator alive for solely geopolitical reasons instead of telling him to step down as he has lost every legitimacy that he has left, their constant toxic meddling in the Arab world and their support for terrorist Shia militias, Hezbollah etc.

When some Southern Iraqi Shia Arabs rose up in the South in the 1990's where you then prepared to tell them to stop their uprising and take it one step at a time (gradual change) or would you (if you lived back then) had hoped for toppling a tyrant?

KSA has solely been supporting FSA throughout the entire conflict. All accusations of support for Daesh are baseless. Not a single prove has been shown.

To combat Hezbollah? Is this a joke. Daesh and Hezbollah have barely fought a single battle against each other. Daesh has no presence in that part of Syria. If anything one should blame the Americans for most of the mess. They control everything in the ME and tolerate everything. They invaded Iraq in 2003 and they are tolerating the genocide of Syria and the expansion of Daesh.

Even if he is right how much arabs they can kill according to his low IQ?!!

And what the arabs of today have to do with 1400 battle

All of them are dead now for long time and they are history

I have no idea what he is talking about. I proved in post 5273 that it is complete and utter nonsense.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Sure, it was the GCC that told Al-Assad to mass-murder his people, it was the GCC that released hundreds of Syrian Islamists including the entire leadership of Al-Nusra from Syrian jails deliberately to poison the Syrian opposition

http://www.thenational.ae/world/syr...om-prison-to-fire-up-trouble-during-peaceful-

and it was the GCC that invaded Iraq back in 2003 and fueled the sectarianism that already had existed for a long time, created the constitution, tortured the likes of Al-Baghdad and thousands of others later to let them free. Daesh is led by people from the GCC and not local Iraqis and Syrians either.

Yes, Al-Assad's dialogue is to mass-murder his own people and barrel bomb them. Ba'athist's are really famous when it comes to comrpomises and dialogue with political opponents. That's why Syria, like Saddam-ruled Iraq, was a one-party country.

You Iraqi Shia Arabs are a strange species. Now you defend the same person that supported the Iraqi resistance more than anyone else and who opened his borders for outsiders to flood into Iraq. The same person that supported Iran against Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war.

Of course as expected not a single bad word about Iran and Russia who are deliberately keeping a mass-murdering genocidal dictator alive for solely geopolitical reasons instead of telling him to step down, their constant toxic meddling in the Arab world and their support for terrorist Shia militias, Hezbollah etc.

When some Southern Iraqi Shia Arabs rose up in the South in the 1990's where you then prepared to tell them to stop their uprising and take it one step at a time (gradual change) or would you (if you lived back then) had hoped for toppling a tyrant?

KSA has solely been supporting FSA throughout the entire conflict. All accusations of support for Daesh are baseless. Not a single prove has been shown.

To combat Hezbollah. Is this a joke. Daesh and Hezbollah have barely fought a single battle against each other. Daesh has no presence in that part of Syria. If anything one should blame the Americans for most of the mess. They control everything and tolerate everything. They invaded Iraq in 2003 and they are tolerating the genocide of Syria and the expansion of Daesh.



I have no idea what he is talking about. I proved in post 5273 that it is complete and utter nonsense.

lol you used that video like 100 times, so now you love Shia? and don't want your sunni brothers to fight against the infidel west?

and you used that link again, your beloved terrorists wanted to release prisoners, and now you are against that?
Saudi "arabia" sent all of its prisoners to fight in Syria, the sent terrorists to destroy the country..

Report: Saudis sent death-row inmates to fight Syria

it was the west and their puppets that caused this bloodshed, you have Kuwait opening their air space and land for US jets and etc, and you have Qatarael bombing Libya, and you have gcc supporting terrorism in Syria and causing all this bloodshed...
the strength of I$I$ grew with the support it received from Saudi "Arabia" and etc.. don't try to play that I$I$ is your enemy, it was created by your support to terrorism...

 

[Syrian Lion]

I would like to counter ur point but since that will break ur little heart i leave it at that.

you can't, I already provided you with multiple videos, articles and etc F$A terrorists themselves admit it...

 

[Alshawi1234]

Yes of course. We all forgot how the policemen were being attacked and killed simply for being policemen in the beginning. Although the vast majority of the police were Sunni. All to start the "Syrian spring"

A few protesters were killed before orders came not to confront them and Bashar called for dialog. That's when the "peaceful" protesters with foreign influence started attacking police stations and killing policemen in the cities.


The free Syrian revolution

 

[al-Hasani]

lol you used that video like 100 times, so now you love Shia? and don't want your sunni brothers to fight against the infidel west?

it was the west and their puppets that caused this bloodshed, you have Kuwait opening their air space and land for US jets and etc, and you have Qatarael bombing Libya, and you have gcc supporting terrorism in Syria and causing all this bloodshed...
the strength of I$I$ grew with the support it received from Saudi "Arabia" and etc.. don't try to play that I$I$ is your enemy, it was created by your support to terrorism...

Counter anything that I have written. The video is authentic.

I have nothing against Shias as long as they are not the Wilayat al-Faqih likes. LOL. Make up your mind. A few hours ago you were criticizing me for never criticizing the West and now you claim that I want to wage Jihad against the same West?

Can you blame Kuwait when they were invaded by Iraq for no reason? That's the only country that you can mention. At least they were not supporting Iran during the Iraq-Iran war.

Qatar never bombed Libya. UAE and Egypt did. The only two Arab countries. 95% of the limited bombing raids on Gaddafi's forces (not Libya) were done by NATO. No single Arab country is a NATO member state.

Nice joke. It grew when your beloved Al-Assad released all Syrian Islamists that he could find to weaken the opposition and when he started to mass-murder his people. For Al-Assad Daesh has been a blessing. Don't pretend otherwise. A blind man can see it even. For over 50% of the time Daesh has been killing the Syrian opposition and not actually fought against Al-Assad.

He also released the Syrian leader of Al-Nusra.

Assad regime released extremists from jail, says former intelligence official | The National

 

[Alshawi1234]

Everyone thought Syria was going to be a walk in the park, that's why all the west and Arab countries supported this "revolution" they expected it to end quick like Tunisia or Egypt. But apparently Bashar has strong backing.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Bashar is actually a great leader, just like Saddam Hussien.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Counter anything that I have written. The video is authentic.

I have nothing against Shias as long as they are not the Wilayat al-Faqih likes. LOL. Make up your mind. A few hours ago you were criticizing me for never criticizing the West and now you claim that I want to wage Jihad against the same West?

Can you blame Kuwait when they were invaded by Iraq for no reason? That's the only country that you can mention. At least they were not supporting Iran during the Iraq-Iran war.

Qatar never bombed Libya. UAE and Egypt did. The only two Arab countries. 95% of the limited bombing raids on Gaddafi's forces (not Libya) were done by NATO. No single Arab country is a NATO member state.

Nice joke. It grew when your beloved Al-Assad released all Syrian Islamists that he could find to weaken the opposition. For Al-Assad Daesh has been a blessing. Don't pretend otherwise. A blind man can see it even.

He also realized the leader of Al-Nusra.

Assad regime released extremists from jail, says former intelligence official | The National

Report: Saudis sent death-row inmates to fight Syria
your country is the sponsor of terrorism, the whole word knows it..
and those who entered Iraq were to fight the west, so where am I ever supporting your masters in the west?

enough with your BS... and Qatar did bomb Libya, it even gave aircraft to be used...
Operation Odyssey Dawn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Syrian Lion]

Really , Care to post them one by one and i will vaporize ur arguments like was done to ur shia ,militias lately.

I already did, I gave you a whole link to a thread filled with videos and articles... go to the middle east section, you will find it there

 

[Syrian Lion]

I tell u to post one that u think is the strongest in ur armour .
See how i take it to shreds.

there is more than just one...
how about Israel bombing Syria and never bombing AQ next to it, literally next to it in Golan...

 

[al-Hasani]

Yes of course. We all forgot how the policemen were being attacked and killed simply for being policemen in the beginning. Although the vast majority of the police were Sunni. All to start the "Syrian spring"

A few protesters were killed before orders came not to confront them and Bashar called for dialog. That's when the "peaceful" protesters with foreign influence started attacking police stations and killing policemen in the cities.


The free Syrian revolution

Nonsense. You are acting like if Al-Assad was/is much different than Saddam. I am 100% sure that had this uprising took place in Iraq and mainly been fought by your fellow Iraqi Shia Arabs you would have praised such attacks on the regime of a tyrant. Just like I am 100% sure that you supported the uprisings in the South in the 1990's. That's called hypocrisy.

Yes, tell that to the hundreds of Syrians that were killed in prisons and tortured to death early on in the conflict. Including young children. One of them which became a symbol and hero of the revolution.

Death of Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Bashar and dialogue? If dialogue equals barrel bombings, mass-torture etc. then we agree.

You are showing a video that was filmed in late 2012. 1.5 years after the conflict began. Fail. There were close to no foreigners in the first 6-12 monts of the conflict. It was all Syrians.

Also what is the problem with foreigners when Al-Assad uses thousands upon thousands of foreigners from Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon to fight his dirty war? So much for being the "state army". Al-Assad and the regime is a joke and so is everyone that supports him. Daesh and Al-Assad are two side of the same coin.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Nonsense. You are acting like if Al-Assad was/is much different than Saddam. I am 100% sure that had this uprising took place in Iraq and mainly been fought by your fellow Iraqi Shia Arabs you would have praised such attacks on the regime of a tyrant. Just like I am 100% sure that you supported the uprisings in the South in the 1990's. That's called hypocrisy.

Yes, tell that to the thousands of Syrians that were killed in prisons and tortured to death early on in the conflict. Including young children. One of them which became a symbol and hero of the revolution.

Death of Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Bashar and dialogue? If dialogue equals barrel bombings, mass-torture etc. then we agree.

You are showing a video that was filmed in late 2012. 1.5 years after the conflict began. Fail. There were close to no foreigners in the first 6-12 monts of the conflict. It was all Syrians.

Also what is the problem with foreigners when Al-Assad uses thousands upon thousands of foreigners from Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon to fight his dirty war? So much for being the "state army". Al-Assad and the regime is awoke and so is everyone that supports him. Daesh and Al-Assad are two side of the same coin.

F$A were created and funded by foreigners, and Hezbollah was the last party to enter the war, you see the difference? hezbollah entered to save its own border towns which were being attacked daily by F$A terrorists... n
and there are so many conflicting reports about Hamza death... to this day it still unknown, however his death is used for propaganda purposes... yea turn blind eyes to the massacres and F$A terrorists are commuting daily...

and the Syrian government since the first month of the conflict asked for dialogue, however the west and their puppets refused... and new example is De Mistura plan which is being refused the F$A terrorists, because they want more death for propaganda...

 

[al-Hasani]

@Syrian Lion

You don't believe that do you? Death row inmates being send to Syria. Of course not a single independent source can confirm it. Solely that one source.

What has this thread to do with Libya? Are you telling me that tiny Qatar did most of the bombings in that operation that lasted 12 days? It was NATO that did it all. In terms of Arab countries it was neighboring Egypt who did most of the bombings together with UAE. Just like Egypt is engaged in Libya today the most.

Keep supporting Al-Assad and his regime first of all and blame your failures on outsiders.

No healthy state/society turns into a Syria or Iraq just because of political disagreements.

 

[Syrian Lion]

How about Assad not firing a shot at the Israelis for all those 40 years , he and his father have been in power.

lol, Syria supported Hezbollah in 2006 war and it gave them missiles...

plus Syria is under the international law 1974 agreement, and Israel breaks it, because the west and their puppet will defend it, if Syria every attacked Israel, the west and their puppets will defend it...

now show me where Saudi "Arabia' sent a single bullet to Palestine...

@Syrian Lion

You don't believe that do you? Death row inmates being send to Syria. Of course not a single independent source can confirm it. Solely that one source.

What has this thread to do with Libya? Are you telling me that tiny Qatar did most of the bombings in that operation that lasted 12 days? It was NATO that did it all. In terms of Arab countries it was neighboring Egypt who did most of the bombings together with UAE. Just like Egypt is engaged in Libya today the most.

Keep supporting Al-Assad and his regime first of all and blame your failures on outsiders.

No healthy state/society turns into a Syria or Iraq just because of political disagreements.

I didn't say Qatarael did all the bombing, I said it bombed Libya and it did..

and yes Saudi "Arabia" sent terrorists to Syria, including weapons and etc.. and even held terrorists auctions...

and you keep supporting terrorists and Alqaeda and blame everything on Syria...

and by the way, if you were smart enough you would know I'm not a big fan of Alasad... but terrorists like F$A gave him more support...

 

[Alshawi1234]

Hasani, that's when Arab regimes were on good terms with Assad. The Syrian intelligence is one dirty organization, but all these operations were funded and in cooperation with the gulf countries. Syria actually reversed the operations and was quite cooperative with Iraq a year or two before the "revolution". They instead decided to take Iraq as their main business partner and were making big profit.

But yesterday's friends today's enemies. Just like the Arab "Allies" decided to bomb their friend Ghadafi. They betrayed Bashar although. Even turkey was on excellent terms with Syria. Syria was actually heading towards the right direction when it comes to being more liberal and open to the outside world, investment and the economy was thriving.