Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[Madali]

That video is not one but compilation of many. There is not even a company of tanks (all captured from Assad, poorly maintained, with little ammo and never trained to operate as company) in that offensive.

Just because they don't have a tank battalion, does not mean they are farmers with pitchforks.

You always do this. You go from one extreme to another.

Of course, Assad has a better military equipment over the rebels. I don't think anyone here is denying that. Assad has the advantage of having an actual national military with all the technical equipment that comes with it, plus air support from Russia.

But this is also not a motivation sports film. The rebels aren't just underdogs fighting armed only with heart and passion, with their weapons being only their love for democracy and justice.

They have access to many weapons (which they usually proudly show).Most of you pro-rebels constantly have posted pictures from the last few years whenever they capture any SAA weapon and mocked the SAA for it, but then you claim, the poor rebels fight only in their slippers with nothing.

The rebels are not farmers. Groups like Al Nusra have been fighting for AT LEAST 4-5 years (and some more than that, coming from other nations). They have been supported by other countries financially, militarily, intelligently, and logistically. I don't know why all this is ignored. You can support a side and still be honest about that. The pro-SAA side don't deny that the gov gets Russian Air Support or Iranian advisory support or Hezbollah ground support. But the rebel side like to pretend that they are a 100% Syrian group (no foreigners) who have never received one dime from any country and they have no weapons and are all good hearted farmers.

 

[Star Wars]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jMyClDVMki

@Madali can you tell me whats going on here in the Audio message ?

Apparently the arming academy was leveled to the ground while Rebels were in there...

 

[500]

How old are you? 5? I won't spend more than these few seconds on your post.

One of the main reasons of Asadist fail is that they believe own lies.

https://defence.pk/threads/syrian-c...vid-not-allowed.333727/page-1143#post-8543096

And u keep repeating same nonsense.

Just because they don't have a tank battalion, does not mean they are farmers with pitchforks.

You always do this. You go from one extreme to another.

Of course, Assad has a better military equipment over the rebels. I don't think anyone here is denying that. Assad has the advantage of having an actual national military with all the technical equipment that comes with it, plus air support from Russia.

But this is also not a motivation sports film. The rebels aren't just underdogs fighting armed only with heart and passion, with their weapons being only their love for democracy and justice.

They have access to many weapons (which they usually proudly show).Most of you pro-rebels constantly have posted pictures from the last few years whenever they capture any SAA weapon and mocked the SAA for it, but then you claim, the poor rebels fight only in their slippers with nothing.

The rebels are not farmers. Groups like Al Nusra have been fighting for AT LEAST 4-5 years (and some more than that, coming from other nations). They have been supported by other countries financially, militarily, intelligently, and logistically. I don't know why all this is ignored. You can support a side and still be honest about that. The pro-SAA side don't deny that the gov gets Russian Air Support or Iranian advisory support or Hezbollah ground support. But the rebel side like to pretend that they are a 100% Syrian group (no foreigners) who have never received one dime from any country and they have no weapons and are all good hearted farmers.

Syrian rebels dont have a single battery of artillery, nor a single company of tanks.

Unlike pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine who have both.

 

[Malik Alashter]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jMyClDVMki

@Madali can you tell me whats going on here in the Audio message ?

Apparently the arming academy was leveled to the ground while Rebels were in there...

He says he is in the college and they defeated them and the situation if fine but who is this guy belong to that's hat the audio didn't tell.

 

[Star Wars]

He says he is in the college and they defeated them and the situation if fine but who is this guy belong to that's hat the audio didn't tell.

This came via https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1. Men belonging to SAA. This was apparently the situation yesterday at 7:00pm

 

[ptldM3]

Now you say that you don't know the exact figure but you have 'proof' that they have substantial number of tanks and artillery by looking at some photos!

500 and you are the ones claiming the "rebels" have almost no armor, when I post pictures and video that disprove that you mock me


I watched just part of that video I posted and I counted 8 tanks 3 of which could be the same tank but in different parts of the video and 5 IFV with 2 that could be the same. Again you idiots made the claim that there was very little armor; I presented just some proof that debunked you two and now you are demanding I give it you concrete figures based off of only a handful of videos available.

You bit the same bait that 500 bit and now you are trying to tap dance around your blunder.

Could you please tell us how you figure out 'substantial' number of tanks or artillery just by looking at a photo, you know there is only so much a photo can capture? We're really interested in this method, perhaps it is another ground breaking invention by the assadists.

Thanks for proving my point, you said exactly what I said. There is only so much a photo or video can capture. Even though there is a lot more then 1 video and one photo available. I counted 10 pieces of heavy armor in that video I posted and I did not finish watching all of it. I have 3 more videos as well as pictures.

Yes we know you are no BS analyst, you're a serious military expert. Now tell us why you are so quiet about the rebel air power. Again and again I ask you yet you are silent about it. It's a mystery, you know how important air power is in modern warfare, don't you? It literally makes or breaks a power unless those super mighty rebels in Syria have proven me wrong!

Yes you got me I'm "quiet about the rebel air power".
Air power is important but it does not win wars alone. Isis was expanding despite US air power. That enough should shut you up, but on a tacticle level Russian air power was limited because of 3 reasons.

Same military equipment is used so it's difficult to destinguish friend from foe.

Block to Block, building to building fighting restricts the use of aircraft unless you don't care about hitting friendlies.

The "rebels" were using residential areas to hide, not only is it difficult to know where they are but there is also civilians in and around those buildings.

 

[Malik Alashter]

500 and you are the ones claiming the "rebels" have almost no armor, when I post pictures and video that disprove that you mock me


I watched just part of that video I posted and I counted 8 tanks 3 of which could be the same tank but in different parts of the video and 5 IFV with 2 that could be the same. Again you idiots made the claim that there was very little armor; I presented just some proof that debunked you two and now you are demanding I give it you concrete figures based off of only a handful of videos available.

You bit the same bait that 500 bit and now you are trying to tap dance around you're blunder.








Thanks for proving my point, you said exactly what I said. There is only so much a photo or video can capture. Even though there is a lot more then 1 video and one photo available. I counted 10 pieces of heavy armor in that video I posted and I did not finish watching all of it. I have 3 more. Videos too and pictures.










Yes you got me I'm "quiet about the rebel air power".
Air power is important but it does not win wars alone. Isis was expanding despite US air power. That enough should shut you up, but on a tacticle level Russian air power was limited because of 3 reasons.

Same military equipment is used so it's difficult to destinguish friend from foe.

Block to Block, building to building fighting restricts the use of aircraft unless you don't care about hitting friendlies.

The "rebels" were using residential areas to hide, not only is it difficult to know where they are but there is also civilians in and around those buildings.

How about you don't reply to T-rex this guy is a wahhabi so if you show him the SUN at noon he will insist it's the moon!!?

Sir there are people don't accept the truth because it will collapse their illusion they live in.

and some they don't because the truth destroy their plans their goals their interests!!.

Just have piece of mind by post what you like and answer one way questions.

 

[Star Wars]

How about you don't reply to T-rex this guy is a wahhabi so if you show him the SUN at noon he will insist it's the moon!!?

Sir there are people don't accept the truth because it will collapse their illusion they live in.

and some they don't because the truth destroy their plans their goals their interests!!.

Just have piece of mind by post what you like and answer one way questions.

Jiash Al Mujahideen drawing up plans to attack Castillo road . Do the Rebels have the manpower to attack at two fronts ?

 

[patientlion212]

maybe Aleppo is the new Idlib, yes the man power question, how much do this jayshul mujahedeen has ??

 

[ptldM3]

How about you don't reply to T-rex this guy is a wahhabi so if you show him the SUN at noon he will insist it's the moon!!?

Sir there are people don't accept the truth because it will collapse their illusion they live in.

and some they don't because the truth destroy their plans their goals their interests!!.

Just have piece of mind by post what you like and answer one way questions.

First the claim was 'the rebels have almost no armor, then when sufficient evidence was shown that they do indeed have plenty of armor the subject randomly changed to a company of tanks as in, 'the rebels don't even have a company of tanks', if I present enough proof that they do then it will randomly change to a battalion of tanks.


Just like his claim that Russian aircraft in Syria did not have IR/FLIR. When I posted multiple screen grabs of gun camera footage he claimed it was a black and white photo even though it was from a video and it had color from the vital displays and the aircraft in question are known to have IR/FLIR.

 

[Star Wars]

News coming in, entire Artillary Base is being flattened by the RuAF

 

[T-Rex]

500 and you are the ones claiming the "rebels" have almost no armor, when I post pictures and video that disprove that you mock me

'Almost no armor" means very few and you claim that they have 'substantial' number of armors. You counted ten AVs say in one video and say another ten in another video though those latter ten could be the same AVs you counted in the first video. Now tell me if that comprises 'substantial' number of armor.

Yes you got me I'm "quiet about the rebel air power".
Air power is important but it does not win wars alone. Isis was expanding despite US air power. .

By 'winning' if you mean capturing land yes,you need ground forces for that but do you know why Saddam lost the war? It is because he didn't have sufficient air power. If the air strikes do their jobs properly it becomes a piece of cake for the ground forces to do the rest and that is why air power so important. As for the US air strikes against ISIS, are you not the one who was complaining that the US air strikes against the ISIS were just drama? Do you think the despotic asad regime would have survived if it was not for the Russian air strikes against the rebels? This is how important air power is! Just imagine what would have happened if the rebels had the US air support and asad's Nazi forces were deprived of it. I think I've made my point.

News coming in, entire Artillary Base is being flattened by the RuAF

@ptldM3 Another example of the importance of air power, this is what the rebels are against.

 

[ptldM3]

'Almost no armor" means very few and you claim that they have 'substantial' number of armors. You counted ten AVs say in one video and say another ten in another video though those latter ten could be the same AVs you counted in the first video. Now tell me if that comprises 'substantial' number of armor.

You are listening out of your rear end? I said I counted 10 pieces of armor in only one video not two and I only watched part of the video. I counted a total of 15 pieces of heavy armor but some of them look to be the same armor filmed in different areas, so I did not count that.

You want me to go slowerrrrr? Or you still want to argue that the poor freedom loving Al-Quida "rebels" have no armor?

By 'winning' if you mean capturing land yes,you need ground forces for that but do you know why Saddam lost the war? It is because he didn't have sufficient air power. If the air strikes do their jobs properly it becomes a piece of cake for the ground forces to do the rest and that is why air power so important.

Stop, just stop, I can list a multitude of reasons why Saddam lost, everything from poor battle planning, to inferior weapons, to poor training.

As for the US air strikes against ISIS, are you not the one who was complaining that the US air strikes against the ISIS were just drama? Do you think the despotic asad regime would have survived if it was not for the Russian air strikes against the rebels? This is how important air power is! Just imagine what would have happened if the rebels had the US air support and asad's Nazi forces were deprived of it. I think I've made my point.

Way to ignore everything I said about air power. Air power is very limited if your enemy hides amongst civilians and in general just hides from aircraft. If the Syrian army used the same tactics as the "rebels" such as storming residential areas and using civilians as hostages then US air power would be limited unless they did not care about civilians. If air power was everything than Isis would be long gone.

 

[T-Rex]

You are listening out of your rear end? I

Perhaps you have been telling tales through your rear end!

 

[ptldM3]

News coming in, entire Artillary Base is being flattened by the RuAF

The SAA is getting reinforcements for Aleppo.

It's too bad the base was a strategically important area. The SAA should dig in again, which they have and let the terrorists attack. The terrorists will sustain much high losses, if it gets to a point that the SAA is about to get overrun they should make another tacticle retreat and the RUAF should again flatten the rebel positions without worrying about friendly fire. Yes territory is lost but the so called rebels would be stretched thin and depleted with every battle.

Of course all reinforcements would have to be cut off but once that is done the rebels will push themselves into a full encirclement and by then they will be weak, cut off and unable to withstand a powerful counterattack.

Perhaps you have been telling tales through your rear end!

Is that the best you have? Learn to read, then learn to not make up claims that you can't back.