Supreme Court Pakistan and COAS Bajwa Extension: News & Discussions

[pakpride00090]

This is about CJ V/s Civilian Government whereby COAS Extension has just become a matter to grill upon and show superiority. Those who think of any bias in extension, are the most clueless minds in respect of Warfare & Current Strategic Issues for any military tactics. The political atmosphere & TV Shows aren't what you see at most rather, there are games into play and hostiles are merely looking for a window of opportunity to make a dent. Has it been the peacetime; there wouldn't be any need of extensions at all.

The new man in the office will need ample time period to understand things at hand in mix of the power being envisaged along with hostilities & foreign military relations/strategic warfare into play. The few may hate Military in default for their own issues but such petty cry is not relevant except for the internet hate. Try to look into the issue beyond political & personal spectrum and weigh the situation at hand, if truly meant to understand as what we are dealing with internally & foreign elements/entities.

It is a measuring contest. CJP is on a power trip and wants to show he holds power.

He is tainting his legacy.

 

[Yaseen1]

i think this war will become more intense after 3yrs and things will become more complex than the situation prevailing now ,it means that coas will be given other extension after next 3yrs,this cycle on instability will not end in 3yrs so i think there are always some controls and backup plans in every well organized army to deal with transition of coas or if any emergency occurs which lead to his death

This is about CJ V/s Civilian Government whereby COAS Extension has just become a matter to grill upon and show superiority. Those who think of any bias in extension, are the most clueless minds in respect of Warfare & Current Strategic Issues for any military tactics. The political atmosphere & TV Shows aren't what you see at most rather, there are games into play and hostiles are merely looking for a window of opportunity to make a dent. Has it been the peacetime; there wouldn't be any need of extensions at all.

The new man in the office will need ample time period to understand things at hand in mix of the power being envisaged along with hostilities & foreign military relations/strategic warfare into play. The few may hate Military in default for their own issues but such petty cry is not relevant except for the internet hate. Try to look into the issue beyond political & personal spectrum and weigh the situation at hand, if truly meant to understand as what we are dealing with internally & foreign elements/entities.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

As i already said, the second term of COAS was to start from 28th. IF CJP found any technical irregularities, he could have simply asked Govt. to rectify it before 28th. That would imo be following law and not interfering in executive decision.

Instead he goes on suspending, undermining executive powers. IMO its another attempt to play to the galleries, to dispel notion that courts are not taking dictation from any other institution (a notion that is spread by NS gangs, liberal brigade and co.). So funny that judges here care more about justifying themselves to these people , than to actually care about the general public and dispersion of justice.

Another reason seems to be to satisfy one's own ego, undermining PM etc. Sadly, all of this at cost of creating un-necessary panic situation in country which is not good at all for economic, security and so many reasons.

 

[The Eagle]

i think this war will become more intense after 3yrs and things will become more complex than the situation prevailing now ,it means that coas will be given other extension after next 3yrs,this cycle on instability will not end in 3yrs so i think there are always some controls and backup plans in every well organized army to deal with transition of coas or if any emergency occurs which lead to his death

You are still away from the real picture here. Had it been the case as your are describing, we have been at war since 1947. Such extension under current circumstances aren't merely decisions in general but in-fact, 3 years are good enough to deal as planned until & unless some natural causes. If natural death be kept in view; I don't see anyone to be appointed at all or you are trying to certify that so & so person has the guarantee to live that long but not in-case of extension like this. Who knows when death knocks on the door. Plans are placed & executed hence, the extension was granted. However, it is up-to COAS as well whether to accept or not but that too will come after due consideration of everything around and not for the sake of personal legacy or honour as the Country stands above all. The argument of natural causes for lost of life is too weak to begin with as the same could happen to anyone at any time. The plans & strategy in place are the real deals.

 

[Amavous]

I think court will delay the proceedings for 2 days and after 28th COAS will stand retired hence cannot be extended and then courts will say we didn't do anything we were just checking the validity of the notification.

Unless the government defies the court proceedings and issue new notification today or tomorrow and that will escalate this tussle even further.

 

[The Eagle]

It is a measuring contest. CJP is on a power trip and wants to show he holds power.

He is tainting his legacy.

And there can be a much of disappointment for Military haters in next few days. Can anyone confirm the Legal Process and possible proceedings in this case? I know people can try to make best guess but I don't think anyone is fully aware that the objection as such will drive all the naysayers to dark corner and may be extension as such will be legitimized by next. Those who can understand the possibility and legal process; will stick to the ground reality instead of knee-jerk bashing statements all over.

 

[Mrc]

This extension was un called for from beginning and now it's ended... So it's done . Bajwa served ok now he shud move on

 

[PakSword]

So, what, then, is the reason for bajwa's extension? clearly, he doesnt trust his subordinates(or IK doesnt) to be good commanders after him.

It is the situation that warranted government to give him an extension. The current affairs in the region require continuity:

1 - Afghan Peace Process
2 - Tensions with India
3 - Kashmir Issue
4 - Tensions in the Middle East

The current leadership is in the middle to handle all the issues. We talk about these huge issues that affect the countries and region, while in small companies when management is in the middle of some important transaction, such as mergers and acquisitions, they stop all transfers and postings.. They even give extension to the current management if someone is about to retire for a few months. That doesn't mean that company doesn't have other executives to perform the tasks.. it's just that the stakeholders don't want to waste time in handing/ over taking over process and they want the current management to finish what they have started.

We should not make everything a issue tbh.

 

[SD 10]

Very bad timing. Although i donot advocate general bajwa's extension but a verdict against extension in this time will only increase the moral ground for noonies and their basless rhetoric.

 

[AZ1]

SC should never accept petition in first place

This extension is not new thing ut ofcourse after NS, our SC start working otherwise they couldnt take sou moto on verdict of NS


Gen Kayani gets three year extension
By
Jul.22,2010
https://tribune.com.pk/story/30093/gen-kayani-gets-three-year-extension


So was it before illegal or its illegal now?

 

[Jango]

Check this out.

"Cabinet's approval was required," Attorney General (AG) Anwar Mansoor Khan responded. "The prime minister signed [the notification] after the cabinet's approval."

"After the cabinet gave its approval, did the president approve it again?" the chief justice asked, to which the attorney general responded in the negative.

"Only the president of Pakistan can extend the tenure of the army chief," he said during the hearing.

"We can take approval from the president again," the attorney general said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1518960/c...of-gen-bajwas-tenure-extension-until-tomorrow

This just makes thing even more muddier

 

[Amavous]

can anybody explain what is the chain of command if COAS goes without replacement? Who will/can lead in hours or days till a new appointment

What happened when COAS Asif Nawaz died ?? Senior-most CORPS commander takes over temporarily or what ??

 

[AZ1]

This just makes thing even more muddier

I dont think so its pretty much straight get approval from president and done. While in Past

"He said that Gen Kayanis leadership was key to the success in the fight against terrorism and keeping this in light it was mandatory to extend his tenure.

Gilani said that after consultations with President Asif Zardari, he has decided to extend the tenure for three years."

 

[Cuirassier]

Abrupt although I support the court's decision. Who's going to be the new Chief considering that Nadeem Raza has been given CJCSC charge? Army would be rattled.

 

[fitpOsitive]

This behaviour has its roots way back in history. I mean, people don't do their own work but try to poke their nose in others work. Many departments were made nonfunctional like that.