Supreme Court disqualifies Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in unanimous verdict

[CaptainJackSparrow]

-_- Humor me.

I will, just not in this thread. Open a new thread if you want.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Only in Pakistan can a sitting PM be investigated by a JIT consisting of officers of Military Intelligence.

Democracy...Pakistan style.

346"]Only in Pakistan can a sitting PM be investigated by a JIT consisting of officers of Military Intelligence.

Democracy...Pakistan style.[/QUOTE]
and then there is India where Prime Miniter is like a Dictator no Institution can question him If you did you are traitor and most likely you'll be killed

Supreme Court refuses probe into alleged Birla-Sahara payoffs to Modi
The apex court, while dismissing the plea, said that there was no conclusive evidence in it.
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By: Express Web Desk | Updated: January 13, 2017 1:08 pm

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The Supreme Court on Wednesday dismissed the petition filed by an NGO seeking probe into the IT raids on Sahara and Birla in which names of certain politicians came up. The apex court, while dismissing the plea, said there was no conclusive evidence in it.

“If we were to order investigation on the basis of material with no evidentiary value, it would be difficult for constitutional functionaries to function, which would not be safe for the democracy,” the court observed.

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“Given the shape in which these documents have been collected and filed, we are of the opinion that it would not be safe and proper to order investigation”, the court said in its order while weighing the evidence placed before it in the context of earlier judgments of the apex court, including that of the Constitution Bench.

‘Common Cause’, an NGO, had filed a fresh affidavit in the Supreme Court seeking a court- monitored SIT investigation into the raids on two business houses in 2013-14 after which bribery allegations were made against politicians, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

The verdict could be seen as a big setback for Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi and AAP leader Arvind Kejriwal who have recently, in reference to those IT raids, attacked Modi and accused him of being involved in corrupt practices.

‘Common Cause’, which has repeatedly been asked by the court to come up with credible material in support of its bribery allegations, had last week filed several documents, including some e-mails, as annexures to its affidavit.

It claimed that the fresh material pertained to CBI raid on Aditya-Birla Group office and the Income Tax raid on the premises of Sahara group and subsequent investigations.

A bench headed by by Justice Khehar had last month questioned the NGO and its lawyer Prashant Bhushan whether aspersions could be cast against the prime minister without placing “sufficient”, “firm” and “clear” materials.

It had also said that the PIL was based on “zero material” and was only making “insinuations” and asked Bhushan to come out with credible material for the court to consider.

Aso Read this

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/186-indian...e-criminal-cases-including-murder-rape-600584

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

I will, just not in this thread. Open a new thread if you want.

Fact of the matter remains. Until someone is held accountable for corruption the culture isn't going to change.

Unless the JIT did something wrong the background of an investigator doesn't matter. 2 out of the 6 were ISI and MI. Find evidence somewhere that they overreached or threatened or intimidated the other members. Reports are the civilians members were the most zealous and the ISI/MI were uncomfortable.

Wajid Zia Federal Investigation Agency Additional Director General (Immigration) Head of Team.
Ameer Aziz State Bank of Pakistan Managing Director (NIBAF)
Bilal Rasool Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan Executive Director
Irfan Naeem Mangi National Accountability Bureau Director General (NAB, Balochistan) Selected
Brigadier (r) Nauman Saeed Inter-Services Intelligence Director (Internal Security)
Brigadier Kamran Khurshid Military Intelligence -

If the Military Overlords of Pakistan wanted NS removed they could have done it a lot sooner. Time just caught up to NS. Hopefully time will decide to cross the border and catch up to India's corrupt leaches.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Welcome to the forum---Tom Dooley also got hung for the crime he did not committ---as did many others---.

When the wrath of God falls upon you---it does not care about the proof---it just smashes you to kingdom come.

 

[Long.Live.Pakistan]

Hi,

Welcome to the forum---Tom Dooley also got hung for the crime he did not committ---as did many others---.

When the wrath of God falls upon you---it does not care about the proof---it just smashes you to kingdom come.

Hope this process never end and every politician judge through the prism of article 62 and 63 and then i will see who left in there

 

[Post Colonnial]

Army rule was voted out in 2008 when Musharraf was forced to resign by new civilian elected government. Indians need to shut about things they have no idea about.

pity you do not know your own country, its gevernance. No wonder your military established views and treats Pakistan as its asset and Pakistanis as its liabilities

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Voting for lesser of the two evils is still voting for evil.

Vote Change! Vote PTI! They haven't proven their Evil yet or if.



Love this post! Winning!

how are you sure pti would be 'THE GOOD ' party .
i totally want to try , but fear stability . The democratic process is slow but it would clean itself in due course , but if we not let it work , how can we be sure . All the generals and majors try to oust ppp, but they couldn't . Only given one full term and they are wiped out . Now they are busy in making their own little kingdom called sindh, where they can do as much corruption as they like . There is a realization in ppp that , they can never win and it seems they dont want anything as far as they have sindh .
when plans are made by establishment , they are very one dimensional . they always have the tradency to go wrong . nature takes its own course and it is best to let nature work itself .
now who would do across the board accountability including military . what would you do if you have 2 options and one is bad and the other is very bad ....
imran khan also has the same corrupt people , the same people who can be sold if price is higher . only very few people in pti are clean and they are not that close to imran khan . i hope if he ever get the office , he would be able to take strong and bold decisions , but i still dont think that there is even the slightest chance he would win .
the deep mindest of the actual masses dont like him , except the very few from the higher classes . he too has 4 years to change this but he failed to penetrate into the minds of masses .
i can only hope , whatever happens , happens for the best .
may Allah always bless pakistan .

 

[Clutch]

how are you sure pti would be 'THE GOOD ' party .
i totally want to try , but fear stability . The democratic process is slow but it would clean itself in due course , but if we not let it work , how can we be sure . All the generals and majors try to oust ppp, but they couldn't . Only given one full term and they are wiped out . Now they are busy in making their own little kingdom called sindh, where they can do as much corruption as they like . There is a realization in ppp that , they can never win and it seems they dont want anything as far as they have sindh .
when plans are made by establishment , they are very one dimensional . they always have the tradency to go wrong . nature takes its own course and it is best to let nature work itself .
now who would do across the board accountability including military . what would you do if you have 2 options and one is bad and the other is very bad ....
imran khan also has the same corrupt people , the same people who can be sold if price is higher . only very few people in pti are clean and they are not that close to imran khan . i hope if he ever get the office , he would be able to take strong and bold decisions , but i still dont think that there is even the slightest chance he would win .
the deep mindest of the actual masses dont like him , except the very few from the higher classes . he too has 4 years to change this but he failed to penetrate into the minds of masses .
i can only hope , whatever happens , happens for the best .
may Allah always bless pakistan .

No I am not sure PTI wouldnt be the same... only Allah knows... however, I am sure the same group of politicians who have through a revolving door policy are definitely not the answer...

So it deserves to try something different.

 

[expert]

how are you sure pti would be 'THE GOOD ' party .
i totally want to try , but fear stability . The democratic process is slow but it would clean itself in due course , but if we not let it work , how can we be sure . All the generals and majors try to oust ppp, but they couldn't . Only given one full term and they are wiped out . Now they are busy in making their own little kingdom called sindh, where they can do as much corruption as they like . There is a realization in ppp that , they can never win and it seems they dont want anything as far as they have sindh .
when plans are made by establishment , they are very one dimensional . they always have the tradency to go wrong . nature takes its own course and it is best to let nature work itself .
now who would do across the board accountability including military . what would you do if you have 2 options and one is bad and the other is very bad ....
imran khan also has the same corrupt people , the same people who can be sold if price is higher . only very few people in pti are clean and they are not that close to imran khan . i hope if he ever get the office , he would be able to take strong and bold decisions , but i still dont think that there is even the slightest chance he would win .
the deep mindest of the actual masses dont like him , except the very few from the higher classes . he too has 4 years to change this but he failed to penetrate into the minds of masses .
i can only hope , whatever happens , happens for the best .
may Allah always bless pakistan .

If you think we were going through a democratic process in the last 8 years you are mistaken. There was more democracy during Musharraf's rule where the local bodies were actually empowered. These days the civilian dictators want all power for themselves. If we keep hoping the democratic process will fix itself we will end up like a Turkey, Russia or even Bangladesh.

Relax. Everyone will be accounted eventually.

This is victory because for the first time, standing Federal government has been brought down which is unheard in the history of democratically world. It is sign of hope in the future because no one is safe from the accountability from now on. This will also rekindle people faith on the system furthermore.

That's not true. Many governments have fallen because of accountability. Look at South Korea for example.

 

[Meengla]

Army rule was voted out in 2008 when Musharraf was forced to resign by new civilian elected government. Indians need to shut about things they have no idea about.

Yes, to most extent, the Army's role is greatly diminished. I mean Musharraf was the COAS and the President of Pakistan AND his party/allies were ruling almost all of Pakistan by 2008. But he was reduced to being a 'Bunker President' by the end of his rule. The WOT has one positive side effect on Pakistan: Greatly reduced role of the military in civilian affairs--and I think the military is happy with it!

I think most people outside Pakistan are very ignorant about the transformations--mostly positive--happening in Pakistan in the last one decade. But I thought the Indians--especially smarter ones--would be the best people outside Pakistan to have recognized these shifts. Oh well.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hope this process never end and every politician judge through the prism of article 62 and 63 and then i will see who left in there

Hi,

The thing is that IK does not come into the category. Nawaz does---he had worked for the govt of pakistan for many a years---because ' white collar crimes do not have any statute of limitations.

IK did not commit a crime or any crime---so the court cannot ask him to prove his income---.

It is technically " illegal " of the court to ask him for his BACK DATED money trail just because he is in politics now.

That is called " phishing "---and phishing is illegal.

 

[Long.Live.Pakistan]

Hi,

The thing is that IK does not come into the category. Nawaz does---he had worked for the govt of pakistan for many a years---because ' white collar crimes do not have any statute of limitations.

IK did not commit a crime or any crime---so the court cannot ask him to prove his income---.

It is technically " illegal " of the court to ask him for his BACK DATED money trail just because he is in politics now.

That is called " phishing "---and phishing is illegal.

I was actually talking about disqualification under article 62 and 63 and it should be applied on all politicians rather than just one politician. Nawaz sharif did not disqualified because of corruption charges any way. He was disqualified because he was not sadiq and ameen. Politicians have to declare their assets and source of earning before taking part in elections so you are not making any sense . also don't forget that top leaderships of PTI are actually left overs of others parties so they have been in politics for years before joining PTI. Court has all right to ask his money trail since he is living luxurious life while he has been left cricket long ago so we need to know what is his source of income which seem like stealing from funds and sakzat which he is collecting in the name of Hospital or change then he has people like Jehgir tareen and Haleem khan around him who are worse goons and corrupt to the crore

 

[MastanKhan]

I was actually talking about disqualification under article 62 and 63 and it should be applied on all politicians rather than just one politician. Nawaz sharif did not disqualified because of corruption charges any way. He was disqualified because he was not sadiq and ameen. Politicians have to declare their assets and source of earning before taking part in elections so you are not making any sense . also don't forget that top leaderships of PTI are actually left overs of others parties so they have been in politics for years before joining PTI. Court has all right to ask his money trail since he is living luxurious life while he has been left cricket long ago so we need to know what is his source of income which seem like stealing from funds and sakzat which he is collecting in the name of Hospital or change then he has people like Jehgir tareen and Haleem khan around him who are worse goons and corrupt to the crore

Hi,

You are in error---the company where he had Ikama---was used for MONEY LAUNDERING---that was the reason---the rest of the stuff is coming.

 

[DjSnake]

despite criticizing Pakistan in my previous posts, this is the first step in the right direction. This is excellent news and hopefully prosperity will follow

 

[MastanKhan]

I was actually talking about disqualification under article 62 and 63 and it should be applied on all politicians rather than just one politician. Nawaz sharif did not disqualified because of corruption charges any way. He was disqualified because he was not sadiq and ameen. Politicians have to declare their assets and source of earning before taking part in elections so you are not making any sense . also don't forget that top leaderships of PTI are actually left overs of others parties so they have been in politics for years before joining PTI. Court has all right to ask his money trail since he is living luxurious life while he has been left cricket long ago so we need to know what is his source of income which seem like stealing from funds and sakzat which he is collecting in the name of Hospital or change then he has people like Jehgir tareen and Haleem khan around him who are worse goons and corrupt to the crore

Youngman,

You are in error---and that is atypical thinking of pakistani men. The police / FIA etc can look for wrong doings and then charge them with a crime and then the court can ask to provide money trail.

A court does not have any right to ask a civilian for any kind of proof of any money trail---.

A law has to be broken---.

Like here in the U S---a cop cannot ask me for my ID just like that---if he does---I ask them---" have I broken a law " and they have to explain what I have done and then I can show them the ID---.

It is not their right to demand an ID---.

So---even in pakistan---which still has some kind of law---the criteria has not changed---. A crime has to be committed and a relevant agency file the charges.

But if he was a public office holder in the past---or a govt servant---then a complain filed against that person has feet and the court can demand money trail as is the case with Nawaz Shareef.