Sunni Muslims stop funeral of man alleged to be Ahmadi

[Armstrong]

Then Quran says, Surah Ahzaab, in which there is ayyah, about the finality of prophethood

Waisss you know the Lahori Jammat unlike Jammat Ahmediya has a different opinion on this ! They think, as far as I know, that Mirza Sahib wasn't a Prophet but a Reformer !

Ironically my Ahmedi friend excommunicated the Lahori Jammat from the true faith because of that !

The bottom line is that we're all intolerant...even the Ahmedis when it suits them !

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I did not know about the hatred first hand. Regarding non Muslims I could understand. But these Shia Sunni and Ahmedii divisions are rather a little new to me. Last weekend went to a langar. In the weekends the temples are full of people. On weekdays they remain almost empty...but I am stuck in office Gurdwaras remain relatively quiet on the weekends. So I often go there.Nobody has ever abused me.

You heretic ! They are not Dharmic. They are unbelievers of the Dharmic beliefs and hence we must never allow these heretics to pray or be cremated near a pure Hindu temple

 

[474474]

This sounds like the reformation age of the Christian church to me. First there was the absolute Roman Catholic Church. Then came the Protestants headed by Martin Luther King who was excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church as being "unchristian". Then came the smaller breakaway groups who were also excommunicated. In time to come, hopefully this reformation age of Islam will lead to a more tolerant and embracing religion like Christianity is today

And now we have Mormons, Spaghetti monster, Scientology, Westboro etc.
Good going (Y)

 

[Dubious]

I have read the Koran and 2 Sahih Hadiths. But never came across the term Ahmedi. Googled it up and now I know.
Let me draw some parallels. Lord Buddha, Lord Mahavira and Guru Nanak also came from the Dharmic fold. But they chalked out their own path. What they called themselves is not a matter of concern in my opinion.

Then it is not! Why on this thread?

 

[Iggy]

don't troll bro, in Makkah they dont even have rooms or any barriers

Am not trolling mate.. I just asking some questions about what I do not know..

 

[Always Neutral]

No they are not right.

And how much do you know about mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani?

His teachings?

His beliefs???

Have read any of books???

No

So please read his belifs and then read islamic theology

A big contradiction will come in front of you on core beliefs

Shouldn't you NOT be arguing on how stupid the mosque management was as it was later proved that he was a Pakistani Sunni? Just a rumour was required to lynch his reputation even though he was already dead. UK cannot allow this to happen be it any religion. These places are built on UK soil and hence it is my way or the highway.

 

[Dubious]

All the more to sue it to change its management. They denied a Pakistani Sunni his last rites based on a rumour.

Yea they have done equally worse by denying women the right to pray in a masjid without a reason

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Nobody is trolling other that folks with big font sizes and 0 tolerance. Please bro, this earth has space for all...or so I thought.

TROLLERS back off with your crap will ya! It is clear you have NO KNOWLEDGE of Islam!!

 

[PlanetWarrior]

I did not know about the hatred first hand. Regarding non Muslims I could understand. But these Shia Sunni and Ahmedii divisions are rather a little new to me. Last weekend went to a langar. In the weekends the temples are full of people. On weekdays they remain almost empty...but I am stuck in office Gurdwaras remain relatively quiet on the weekends. So I often go there.Nobody has ever abused me.

Bro, I was trolling you

 

[Dubious]

Lolz!! I guess you mentioned about people from South Asia, which include Pakistan, Bangladesh, SriLanka and Nepal also.. How come it only came to blaming Indian muslims only..

coz by far they are the most radical...we have 2 enormous masjids in Manchester run by Pakistanis and we have enormous rooms for women there...not sure what is wrong with GUJJI DEOBANDI MUSLIMS?!

 

[Bratva]

Waisss you know the Lahori Jammat unlike Jammat Ahmediya has a different opinion on this ! They think, as far as I know, that Mirza Sahib wasn't a Prophet but a Reformer !

Ironically my Ahmedi friend excommunicated the Lahori Jammat from the true faith because of that !

The bottom line is that we're all intolerant...even the Ahmedis when it suits them !

If he was a reformer, then he did claimed to be a prophet and even when he died he didn't renounced his corrupt beliefs.

So no matter how much they try to portray Mirzaa as a reformer, his teachings,books,beliefs still proofs him to be a "fitnaah" than a "reformer of his time. A fitnaa who tried to corrupt the core belif of Islaam.

 

[Dubious]

Are you implying that Sunni Gujji Indians do not practice the proper manner of Islam as well ?

All am saying is they are Misogyny in nature and take that stronger than them being Muslims so you decide what they are!

 

[VelocuR]

New belief "Christian" was created by David Koresh called himself Messiah, he said God sent him to gospel people, he was shot dead by US government.

Ahmadi's Mirza Ghulam Ahmad also called himself "Messiah" and New Prophet in early 1889s new movement, he also said God send him to preach them.

 

[Dubious]

I did not know about the hatred first hand. Regarding non Muslims I could understand. But these Shia Sunni and Ahmedii divisions are rather a little new to me. Last weekend went to a langar. In the weekends the temples are full of people. On weekdays they remain almost empty...but I am stuck in office Gurdwaras remain relatively quiet on the weekends. So I often go there.Nobody has ever abused me.

Some of these are FAIRLY NEW...like 19th century introduction...you can clearly see its not even mainstream just opinion based!

Nobody is trolling other that folks with big font sizes and 0 tolerance. Please bro, this earth has space for all...or so I thought.

trolling? really i was asked the same q 2x on this thread alone...sorry if i think that was a troll..

 

[Armstrong]

If he was a reformer, then he did claimed to be a prophet and even when he died he didn't renounced his corrupt beliefs.

So no matter how much they try to portray Mirzaa as a reformer, his teachings,books,beliefs still proofs him to be a "fitnaah" than a "reformer of his time. A fitnaa who tried to corrupt the core belif of Islaam.

I dunno, as far as I could discern from the talk, the Lahori Jammat maintains that Mirza Sahib had actually used the word 'Prophet' in a metaphorical sense just like some Poets & Sufis used that term in the past ! And that that is precisely the reason why he kept on reaffirming the finality of the Prophethood in his books & teachings.