SULTAN SHAHAB UDDIN GHAURI

[Zarvan]

Why are you so stupid when it comes to logic? when there is clear cut evidence chronicled throughut history of islamic invasions followed by conversion or death of locals you talk of indonesia? Certainly Indonesians were not forced to convert, but how does that make the rest of the islamic invasions across asia and europe disappear? What kind of illogical robots are you apologists?

Mr no where any body was force to convert Mr no body was forced to convert you are running away from logic Mr not me you are lying about history not me

 

[MM_Haider]

O really so you are saying what Sahabas did was also wrong WOW because they invaded lands too O your slave mentality is clearly seen here so stop replying to me I don't like Indians slaves much


No body was forced to convert Mr if that would have been the case the largest Muslim country Mr no Army went their Indonesia and who is forcing those thousands and thousands converting to Islam in USA and Europe and even India these days

Shame on you for comparing these plunderers with Sahabah (RA).

and you still have to prove your claim what you did in post #15. Go do some research and then come. And we can have very fine discussion even if you don't call me names and i don't give a damn to your liking and disliking. If you are so concerned about it then don't post here.

 

[Aslan]

Mate, if you consider that right as per those conditions then you have no right even today to call the foreign invasion on any land wrong. This is the human conscious I am talking about. You are a hypocrite if you claim what Ghaznavi or Ghori did was right and what USA is doing in Afghanistan today is wrong. I hope you understand the human conscious. History is very cruel. It tells very clearly as to what in his heart when he was invading India and it was not for glory of Islam. Quid-e-Azam did his political struggle.. don't start comparing apples and oranges now, just for the sake of response.

Anyways, my point is that ... In Ghaznavi or Ghori.. there is nothing for Muslims of Subcontinent to be proud of!

I am not going to argue with u any further apparently being politically correct is more important to u then logic. But lets just put it like this, Ghori and Ghaznawi didnt go around preaching democracy to other countries, Or giving others courses in humanity, while themselves killing in thousands, like the Americans do.

 

[Zarvan]

Shame on you for comparing these plunderers with Sahabah (RA).

and you still have to prove your claim what you did in post #15. Go do some research and then come. And we can have very fine discussion even if you don't call me names and i don't give a damn to your liking and disliking. If you are so concerned about it then don't post here.

O Mr Sahabas also conquered foreign lands Mr they did that all their life you stop being hypocrite Mr and stop falling for the lies told by Indians

 

[Aslan]

Why are you so stupid when it comes to logic? when there is clear cut evidence chronicled throughut history of islamic invasions followed by conversion or death of locals you talk of indonesia? Certainly Indonesians were not forced to convert, but how does that make the rest of the islamic invasions across asia and europe disappear? What kind of illogical robots are you apologists?

And still india remains a majority hindu country, I wonder that what happened to the forced conversion theory there. Stick to the topic that is Ghori and not over all Islamic history.

 

[MM_Haider]

I am not going to argue with u any further apparently being politically correct is more important to u then logic. But lets just put it like this, Ghori and Ghaznawi didnt go around preaching democracy to other countries, Or giving others courses in humanity, while themselves killing in thousands, like the Americans do.

your criteria of good guys and bad guys depends on 'if-they-preach-democracy'.... RIP logic!

 

[Aslan]

your criteria of good guys and bad guys depends on 'if-they-preach-democracy'.... RIP logic!

No but instead I should do a RIP to your brains cells that are certainly dead. One shouldnt be so egoistic that he stops looking at what is being said just to win a damn argument. Oh well u know what u are right boss, now happy.

 

[MM_Haider]

O Mr Sahabas also conquered foreign lands Mr they did that all their life you stop being hypocrite Mr and stop falling for the lies told by Indians

Don't change the topic. I can talk on length about the motives of Shahabah (RA) to conquer foreign lands. Open a new thread for that. Here you have to prove what you claimed in post number 15. If I was moderator i would have deleted all of your posts, till you substantiated your claim!

No but instead I should do a RIP to your brains cells that are certainly dead. One shouldnt be so egoistic that he stops looking at what is being said just to win a damn argument. Oh well u know what u are right boss, now happy.

don't be personal mate. It is not a trait of academic discussion.

 

[Zarvan]

Don't change the topic. I can talk on length about the motives of Shahabah (RA) to conquer foreign lands. Open a new thread for that. Here you have to prove what you claimed in post number 15. If I was moderator i would have deleted all of your posts, till you substantiated your claim!

That is why you are not a moderator and its you who are not coming up with any solid points Mr so stay away rather than always posting crap

 

[notsuperstitious]

Mr no where any body was force to convert Mr no body was forced to convert you are running away from logic Mr not me you are lying about history not me

How many times a day are you required to repeat that?

And still india remains a majority hindu country, I wonder that what happened to the forced conversion theory there. Stick to the topic that is Ghori and not over all Islamic history.

So how does India of today being a Hindu majority country got anything to do wih the wiping out forced conversions well documented often by the islamic rulers themselves? Are you so uneducated in history that you do not know how aurangzeb's forced conversion policy lead to martyrdomof Guru Tegh Bahadur and revolts by Hindus all over India?

When Mughal offocial court documents clearly document facts, why are you offering lame logic? How does lame logic deny hard well documeted facts?

 

[MM_Haider]

That is why you are not a moderator and its you who are not coming up with any solid points Mr so stay away rather than always posting crap

what kind of educated person calls others names and address them calling O Mr. O Mr. and then you pose here on this forum as preacher of Islam. it is good for you that I am not moderator. what i post seems to you a crap because your thinking level is not at that par. Like Nietzsche said, "Those who were dancing seemed insane to those who didn't hear the music". So keep your thoughts about me to yourself and come up with some proof of what you posted in post #15.

 

[Zarvan]

what kind of educated person calls others names and address them calling O Mr. O Mr. and then you pose here on this forum as preacher of Islam. it is good for you that I am not moderator. what i post seems to you a crap because your thinking level is not at that par. Like Nietzsche said, "Those who were dancing seemed insane to those who were not drunk". So keep your thoughts about me to yourself and come up with some proof of what you posted in post #15.

The whole world knows it except Indians don't want to believe it because they got defeated and humiliated and their pets in Pakistan toe Indian line so nothing new

 

[MM_Haider]

The whole world knows it except Indians don't want to believe it because they got defeated and humiliated and their pets in Pakistan toe Indian line so nothing new

and your resorting to foul language and personal attacks when you don't have proof.. nothing new!... ..

 

[Zarvan]

and your resorting to foul language and personal attacks when you don't have proof.. nothing new!... ..

Mr history has proof and whole world knows it but Indian slave like you never accepts anything you people always live in the state of denial

 

[MM_Haider]

Mr history has proof and whole world knows it but Indian slave like you never accepts anything you people always live in the state of denial

why it is so hard for you share that piece of history as a proof and finish this topic instead of making your self parody here on this forum? Indian slave?? da hell is that?? ...