Successful Babur-3 test gives Pakistan ticket to elite nuke triad club

[Ultima Thule]

Even your neighbors have this capabilities, so why not ?

No it not for Pakistan its China specific

 

[Windjammer]

Provided we have balls to practice this act...so far Pakistan has never launched a missile in real war scenario..

I believe during our wars, we never had the capability.

 

[Manidabest]

Congratz to my Pakistani brothers

 

[TMA]

Actions speak louder than words, even North Korea threatens US every other day, however Pak/US relations may swing side to side but never to the extent of going to a war.

They are already at war covertly.
I still think it is better to have all the defence possible at one's disposal as one never knows. Zionist NATO does not consider Pakistan a friend irrespective of major non NATO ally.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Yes all I was saying is that a real nuclear detterent is an SSBN/SLBM/ICBM even if your land based nukes are destroyed your sea submarine will give you 2nd second strike nuclear retaliation ability.... ICBMs are also faster at mach 22+ plus with slbm icbm we can be near GCC OR near china or near occeina and lauch nukes without getting detected close by!! It gives us strategic detternce and global firepower!!

And US DEFENSE FORCES can't detect and track you and no way China can allow you to start nuclear war with India using its water, you mentally retard person if you wont believe me ask some expert on PDF like @Bilal Khan 777, @Bilal Khan (Quwa), @Oscar, @war&peace, @Tipu7 and others that they are all saying Pakistan don't need an ICBM/SLBM

So ur here too laughing at people, this asshole is an indian troll pretending to be a pakistani..

No i am from Karachi, however if you wont believe me just ask the expert on PDF like @Bilal Khan (Quwa), @Bilal Khan 777, @Oscar, @waz, @Zaki, @war&peace, @Tipu7 and other they all saying that we don't need ICBM/SLBM.

 

[R Wing]

Next time the Afghan govt criticizes us for their own security failures, we should fire one of these (dummy warhead) over their Presidential Palace... just a friendly show of force to start off the week.

Pakistan's "restraint" has started resembling "weakness" so here's to hoping we are able to be a bit more aggressive and assertive.

As Gen Patton said, the three rules of war are: Audacity... audacity... audacity!

 

[Malik Usman]

Yes it is a mile Stone
But Baburs Range is Only 450 KM which sort of limits it
Other is number of baburs Khalid Class Can carry,
how many subs will carry it , and how
many will be on active duty at one time

Because thats the one main reason for going nuclear subs
That you have always have few subs in water all the time so even if enemy takes out every thing in surprise
That Sub will make sure enemy doesn't survive either

And how strong and reliable will be the Pakistans Response system in case Pakistani sub loses communication with HQ and they think Pakistan has been attacked

AS by your logic............There is saying...........Something is always Better than nothing...........

 

[hussain0216]

Unlike what [some] Pakistanis here are barking against us and wish the bad for us, I would never wish ill upon anyone.

Congrats for brothers/sisters in Pakistan. We're proud of your achievement and all people are happy in the KSA and wish you all the best.

By 2025 MAX insha'allah you will have the capability to launch an ICBM and get the full nuclear triad capability. US, France, Russia ...etc are not better then you.

Always remember why those "some" are doing it

Most sane Pakistanis have a deep understanding that our relationship with SA and GCC is vital for both our security in the future

We will defend SA and the holy cities vine what may BUT we also ask more regarding our own geo strategic interests

 

[Darth Vader]

AS by your logic............There is saying...........Something is always Better than nothing...........

The actual range of the weapon seems to be classified as some sources quoting it to be 700 KM. In any case, just the presence of such system is sufficient to thwart aggression.
We also know Pakistan has ordered 8 Chinese Subs, in any case Pakistan doesn't have any global ambitions or quarrels, our threat exists in immediate vicinity and with over 50 years of experience in operating Subs, one can safely say, Pakistan is well aware of all the pros and cons.

Even is 700 not Enough
India has lot of land mass
I don't Know much about these subs so i wont say what are there capabilities and how many birds they will be able to carry
Pakistan needs a dedicated platform because pakistan is not just facing a simple enemy , there enemey has superior platforms with numbers advantage so they capabilities even if they are less in number but they must be able to tottaly decimate the enemy


AND 3 IS BETTER THAN 1
Why build 1 when triple the price you get 3

 

[ahsanhaider]

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

In Time, Pakistan will also have SLBM capability. The nuclear triad doesn't limit us to SLCM only, which has now been publicly acknowledged.

 

[abdulbarijan]

In Time, Pakistan will also have SLBM capability. The nuclear triad doesn't limit us to SLCM only, which has now been publicly acknowledged.

Bilal bhai, can you give any insight in to if Pakistan has any programs for an air launched version of Babur (not talking about RAAD here) .. but an air launched cruise missile with a 500-700 Km range on it?

Anyways, congrats to the fellow countrymen on this test. As @Windjammer said, it may very well be one of the biggest feats we have achieved after the 1998 test. In my opinion, this presents a whole new list of variables to be dealt with (from the Indian pov). While air defense systems of India in the subcontinent theater, may very well be concentrated near the Indo-Pak border and near key installations, however we now have more than 4500 miles (7500 Km's) of coast line to work with. Something that @MastanKhan bhai usually alludes to when making his case for a heavier platform which has a good range+ big payload capability.

 

[Ultima Thule]

In Time, Pakistan will also have SLBM capability. The nuclear triad doesn't limit us to SLCM only, which has now been publicly acknowledged.

But first we will built decent SSGN with VLS to matures technology for SSBN, please give one answer future SLBM for Pakistan will be a versions of S-3 or totally new clean sheet 8000-9000 KM design, thank you sir and SSGN will not come after 2025-2030 from my estimation

 

[Eagle+Viper]

 

[YeBeWarned]

Babur III with a nuclear warhead are strategic in nature and have a specific role to play, hence they will only be used from Subs.

Also such an expensive Cruise missile will not be installed on an FAC.

If PN goes for a DDG with area air defence capability, then maybe they can install the Babur III with conventional warhead only.

Thanks , have two more questions i have ..
1- Is PN considering any Destroyers for Future ?
2- What could be the possible reason for Changing of Square shape Launchers to Round shape Launcher ?