Subramanian Swamy wants President’s Rule in Tamil Nadu

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

Subramanian Swamy wants President’s Rule in Tamil Nadu as J Jayalalithaa is hospitalised
The Bharatiya Janata Party leader said the chief minister’s absence had caused ‘administrative disarray’ in the state.

Bharatiya Janata Party leader Subramanian Swamy on Friday sought the imposition of President’s Rule in Tamil Nadu, saying chief minister J Jayalalithaa’s ‘indefinite hospitalisation’ has caused “administrative disarray” in the state, The Hindu reported. Swamy said in Jayalalithaa’s absence from office, a “retired chief secretary” was inexpertly running the state’s administration.

Swamy alleged that the Islamic State had activated its “sleeper cell” in districts such as Ramanathapuram, Madurai and Kanyakumari, according to The Indian Express. He further said that “disruptive groups such as underground Naxalites” and “leftover” sections of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam were looking to create “massive disorder and lawlessness” in Tamil Nadu.

The BJP leader urged Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh to “invoke” Article 356 of the Constitution as well as impose the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act in southern districts of Tamil Nadu and the state capital of Chennai, “for a period of six months”. He also asked Singh to place the state’s legislative assembly in “suspended animation” till Jayalalithaa was able to resume office.

Swamy added that “pre-emptive action by the Union government” was constitutional as the hospital where Jayalalithaa is being treated had said she was required to stay there for a “further period”.

On Thursday, the Apollo Hospital said that the chief minister required alonger stay at the facility. The hospital said that the All Indian Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam party chief’s health continued to improve and that she was making gradual progress. Jayalalithaa was admitted to the private hospital for dehydration and fever on September 22.


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[Gibbs]

@Nilgiri

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri

He's a loudmouth, though I agree with him here somewhat.

Some other states/UT's in India ought to be brought under presidents rule well before TN though....so it shouldn't be a selective thing....but more consistent.

 

[Gibbs]

He's a loudmouth, though I agree with him here somewhat.

Some other states/UT's in India ought to be brought under presidents rule well before TN though....so it shouldn't be a selective thing....but more consistent.

Hmmm i tagged you more in lieu of this.. What's your take ? Cause for worry ?

He further said that “disruptive groups such as underground Naxalites” and “leftover” sections of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam were looking to create “massive disorder and lawlessness” in Tamil Nadu.

 

[Indika]

Chances of TN under governors rule is slim as the TN govt is considered close to BJP.

Hmmm i tagged you more in lieu of this.. What's your take ? Cause for worry ?

When do we realize that govt exists ? When politicians create trouble & obstacles. Most of the administration work is done by bureaucracy as such it should not be a problem.

 

[Nilgiri]

Hmmm i tagged you more in lieu of this.. What's your take ? Cause for worry ?

Thats the loudmouth part of it. They are always in existence, nothing has changed because of JJ's health regarding that.

How likely these two groups are in succeeding is quite low I feel given the counter-activity that has been arrayed against them since the 90s.

The Naxalites especially have been near thoroughly expunged from the rural areas they had some presence in which peaked about 10 years ago.

LTTE remnants, same story.....especially with the clampdown on their funding and illegal activities. They are limited to mostly political patronage....which will only potentially turn into something more serious if Sri Lanka becomes more unstable (unlikely)...given even anti-Sinhala, anti-India type ultra-TN separatist type people and those sympathetic to that overall would wait and bide their time rather than over- dumping more funding and activity into their game/desires and risk attracting serious unwanted attention to themselves.

The ones I would be wary of is (operationally) are the ISIS-influenced cells....but these are mostly transferring to Kerala for the most part now....given its easier to operate and fund over there.

Kerala I would put as a much better candidate for Presidents rule because of that.

If it doesn't hold there, little chance of applying the same for TN.

 

[Śakra]

Tamils are India's fifth column.

 

[wiseone2]

Thats the loudmouth part of it. They are always in existence, nothing has changed because of JJ's health regarding that.

How likely these two groups are in succeeding is quite low I feel given the counter-activity that has been arrayed against them since the 90s.

The Naxalites especially have been near thoroughly expunged from the rural areas they had some presence in which peaked about 10 years ago.

LTTE remnants, same story.....especially with the clampdown on their funding and illegal activities. They are limited to mostly political patronage....which will only potentially turn into something more serious if Sri Lanka becomes more unstable (unlikely)...given even anti-Sinhala, anti-India type ultra-TN separatist type people and those sympathetic to that overall would wait and bide their time rather than over- dumping more funding and activity into their game/desires and risk attracting serious unwanted attention to themselves.

The ones I would be wary of is (operationally) are the ISIS-influenced cells....but these are mostly transferring to Kerala for the most part now....given its easier to operate and fund over there.

Kerala I would put as a much better candidate for Presidents rule because of that.

If it doesn't hold there, little chance of applying the same for TN.

To my knowledge Tamilnadu never had a naxalite problem. You had Veerapan and tiny splinter groups sympathetic to LTTE. Parts of AP had a serious issue.

 

[Nilgiri]

To my knowledge Tamilnadu never had a naxalite problem. You had Veerapan and tiny splinter groups sympathetic to LTTE. Parts of AP had a serious issue.

It was never a sustained problem relative to the core naxalite area (at peak). But elements were definitely there before in the rural areas.

 

[wiseone2]

Hmmm i tagged you more in lieu of this.. What's your take ? Cause for worry ?

tamilnadu is better run than most Indian states. there is a microscopic minority that wants to finance the LTTE type groups. most politicians limit themselves to slogans supporting sri lankan tamils. at the end of the day every one in India wants a government that is responsive to the needs of the voters

if the sri lankan politicians avoid re-runs of 1983 violence you will probably never see any interference from India

 

[Gibbs]

Thats the loudmouth part of it. They are always in existence, nothing has changed because of JJ's health regarding that.

How likely these two groups are in succeeding is quite low I feel given the counter-activity that has been arrayed against them since the 90s.

The Naxalites especially have been near thoroughly expunged from the rural areas they had some presence in which peaked about 10 years ago.

LTTE remnants, same story.....especially with the clampdown on their funding and illegal activities. They are limited to mostly political patronage....which will only potentially turn into something more serious if Sri Lanka becomes more unstable (unlikely)...given even anti-Sinhala, anti-India type ultra-TN separatist type people and those sympathetic to that overall would wait and bide their time rather than over- dumping more funding and activity into their game/desires and risk attracting serious unwanted attention to themselves.

The ones I would be wary of is (operationally) are the ISIS-influenced cells....but these are mostly transferring to Kerala for the most part now....given its easier to operate and fund over there.

Kerala I would put as a much better candidate for Presidents rule because of that.

If it doesn't hold there, little chance of applying the same for TN.

I guess there will always be remnants in TN, There was way before the LTTE or even the Sri Lankan ethnic conflict, And to be sure there will be in the future

if the sri lankan politicians avoid re-runs of 1983 violence you will probably never see any interference from India

Contrary to propaganda Indian interference in SL had little to do with 83's riots,

But yes geo politics and national priorities have changed, Cant see India burning it's fingers again in the foreseeable future especially with strong govts in the Center that does not have to bend to the demands of regional and Ethno Nationalist politics in the peripheries, The the Modi govt is much more pragmatic in it's diplomacy, Adding to that the priority is trade both sides of the Palk straight neither side would want to jeopardize

 

[wiseone2]

I guess there will always be remnants in TN, There was way before the LTTE or even the Sri Lankan ethnic conflict, And to be sure there will be in the future



Contrary to propaganda Indian interference in SL had little to do with 83's riots,

But yes geo politics and national priorities have changed, Cant see India burning it's fingers again in the foreseeable future especially with strong govts in the Center that does not have to bend to the demands of regional and Ethno Nationalist politics in the peripheries, The the Modi govt is much more pragmatic in it's diplomacy, Adding to that the priority is trade both sides of the Palk straight neither side would want to jeopardize

I did not even realize people in sri lanka thought india was responsible for the riots.
it is news to me

 

[GoodKnight]

I did not even realize people in sri lanka thought india was responsible for the riots.
it is news to me

Don't you know ? everything that goes bad in SL is India's fault

 

[Gibbs]

I did not even realize people in sri lanka thought india was responsible for the riots.
it is news to me

India was'nt responsible for the riots, It just took advantage of it to interfere in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation and destabilize it

You seem to have very little knowledge of geo politics at that time, More knowledgeable posters like @Nilgiri or @surya kiran are more nuanced about it

 

[wiseone2]

India was'nt responsible for the riots, It just took advantage of it to interfere in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation and destabilize it

You seem to have very little knowledge of geo politics at that time, More knowledgeable posters like @Nilgiri or @surya kiran are more nuanced about it

I am aware of Indian support for the various Tamil groups. I am not sure who started the whole thing - TN politicians or the Center. It did not help Sri Lanka that Indira Gandhi and MGR decided to form an electoral alliance for unrelated reasons. It did not help that Indira Gandhi was assassinated & MGR had a stroke in 1984. they were wily strong politicians who could impose a political settlement