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Look whose talking a guy who is ashamed to display his countrys flagFor 5 years now The Pakistanis are trying to prove that a Third generation fighter built by China to be at Best meduim tech at very low cost is equal to the most developed flanker in the world.
Yup we do and inshallah u will see ur dead shot bogeys in a war if u try to puk with us....They talk about a FIFTH generation missle coming frm the Thunder..
We already got MICA now we are looking towards a 5th gen missile .Plz explain i understand the PAF is looking at 4th generation MICA which itself is below par to the R27/R77.
You never know.The is no 5th generation m,issle
We and our top PAF officials are realistic we dont shout wer the best and then get shot in the sack..WAT JHMC sysyem does Thunder have ??? plz prove this
Don,t give more fantasy FUTURE upgrade potential plz.
150 will be procured by PLAF google it up son.You have just started with this plane there only a handful in service and The PLAAF will not buy them because THEY KNOW their flankers and J10 are far superior.
You are a big brain fart of BR that is being irritating with the most immature useless nonsense posts and threads of all!For 5 years now The Pakistanis are trying to prove that a Third generation fighter built by China to be at Best meduim tech at very low cost is equal to the most developed flanker in the world.
They talk about a FIFTH generation missle coming frm the Thunder..
Plz explain i understand the PAF is looking at 4th generation MICA which itself is below par to the R27/R77.
The is no 5th generation m,issle
WAT JHMC sysyem does Thunder have ??? plz prove this
Don,t give more fantasy FUTURE upgrade potential plz.
You have just started with this plane there only a handful in service and The PLAAF will not buy them because THEY KNOW their flankers and J10 are far superior.
LOL even with bad economic health pakistan bought,refueller tankers,saab.spada,mica,frigs,F16sYou can plan as many upgrades as you want.
But without a dime in your pocket There WILL NOT BE much happening.
Looks like somebodys pissedIt will remain as it is.
I,d be amazed if Thunder goes beyond 50 planes even those are coming because CHINA has given Pakistan soft loans to buy them .
SO MUCH FOR DELEVOPED BY PAC statements
$650m soft loan granted to pakistan as per AIR FORCES MONTHLY
Goodness me; those 2 Huge Engines mean the SU30MKI is going to be soo fast that it will run in circles around the JF17, and all the JF17 can do is sit and pray to God because the sheer speed of SU30MKI makes it invisible to naked eye . Maybe you are forgetting that those 2 Huge Engines will make it the perfect target for a Heat Seeking Missile, and i would love to see that TVC dodge a 5th Generation Missile capable of manuvering at 50G's.
Really, than that means MIG25's should have just outsped all the incoming missiles instead of getting its a** kicked. The Americans and Israelis discovered it long time ago that instead of building fast planes, all they had to do was make fast missiles. No plane can outrun a heat seeking missile buddy, thats just fanboy talk.
When you add in JHMCS and Thunders small size, things pretty much evens out. Thunder has excellent turn rate just like the F16, the addition of JHMCS means it can challenge the SU30MKI head on.
Those extra missiles are the first thing the pilot will jettison when he realizes that a Missile is on its way.
Goodness me, Jammers from Israel makes the MKI untouchable. I think its best the pilot for JF17 just lowers his landing gear and surrender quietly because those Super Duper Jammers from Israel will jam all the communications, electronics and radars of PAF. Those electronics/jammers certinely didnt help when MKI was locked by F16 Post Mumbai. Maybe you are forgetting that JF17 itself carries excellent EW/ECM suites, not to mention we will have other assets EW assets employed too.
JF17 datalinked with our Erieyes armed with 5th Generation Missiles is perfectly capable of defending itself against the MKI. On a side note, i still fail to understand why the Indians decided to introduce AWACS into the subcontinent. They basically took a huge advantage away from them, their PESA radars were simply unmatched but now thanks to the introduction of Erieyes we have neutralized that.
Its just pure Indian fanboy talk that MKI is God's Gift to Aviation, i laugh my a** when i hear Indian fanboys say that there is no way MKI can be shot down. Is there like some super switch inside MKI that makes it invincible against other aircrafts, what a lot of fanboys fail to take into account is that the pilots will have the biggest impact in combat not the Aircrafts. All i hear from Indian fanboys is MKI has Israeli Jammers, French Avionics etc etc etc. So what, does that make it untouchable. Its the Indians who have to tell us that we fear the MKI, but in reality PAF isnt that worried about MKI.
Sorry to ask which one in current 5th Generation Missile in any Air Force, whats its name & range???? how many paf have it with them????
i thing 50G is too much of
I realy don't know about this, can you explain it plz
Calm down guys.
Ground reality does not hurt
Growler wats a PA ?????
don,t understand ???
JHMC for JF17 does not exist.
mr.paa did you even bother to research a bit?5th gen missles do not exist. for any PAF fighter.