desiman
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The Su-30 is not low observable because the Russians currently CANNOT design and produce such an aircraft. To say the Russians 'never tried' imply they could, which is not true.
Really? Care to show the readership which points in the radar low observability, aka 'clutter' region, that YOU deemed to be unreliable?
This is peace time, which many people who are desperate in trying to downplay the threats posed by US 'stealth' aircrafts often confused with war time. In peace time operations, many safety and equipment longevity procedures and programs are strictly observed so that when the need arises -- war -- we will have warriors and their equipments trained just short of full combat capabilities.
If that is from personal experience I feel sorry for whatever air force you are serving or have served. You watched too many B-rated war movies where apparently the radar scope can inform the pilot exactly what lies beyond their visual capabilities. I can tell you from personal experience that nothing comes even halfway close to your fantasy. The most anyone can INFER from a radar display as to what lies beyond is based upon target altitude, speed and aspect angle, not the size of the return. The US Navy is transitioning to an all F-18 carrier air wing. Between an EF-18 and a ground strike configured F-18, there will be almost no discernable RCS differences between them. The point here is that the size of the radar return is almost irrelevant unless it is accompanied with certain target flight characteristics that is consistent with a type of aircraft. So if an Su-30 is flying at the same at the same speed, altitude and heading as the giant C-5, it would be reasonable to assume that there are two transports of different sizes, not a fighter and a transport. Now if both radar returns are flying at Mach 2 when it is known that a certain RCS figure is consistent with a slow transport, then either the enemy has a new weapon in the area or that one's own radar is on the fritz.
Your comment remain silly in that somehow the size of a radar return is indicative of a specific aircraft and that alone would be able to intimidate an opponent into avoiding a fight.
Lol and now to you gambit, it looks like your taking all this very personally but thats fine.
1) Only USA currently operates jets that claim to be truly stealth aircraft. The Russians have already built and tested the su-47 which has reduced RCS and are almost in the final stages of design of the PAKFA which will be true "Stealth aircraft" , if you know anything about the history of aviation you would know how USA and Russia have followed different paths when its comes to jets. Stealth is still a very much debatable quality of an aircraft because of the cost attached and the actual effectiveness of it. But i wont debate that here as its not a thread about that. I can give you hard facts also but then my replies would be as long as essays lol
2)If you have read other thread you would know about the huge maintenance cost of "Stealth" aircraft, which is one of the huge reasons that the F-22 is not deployed anywhere in the world. I will post you articles from very credible sources telling you about the cost attached to these aircraft and how they are 10 times that of normal aircrafts. Being so expensive and difficult to maintain the f-22is to sensitive to be used in even Iraq because losing a jet that cost so much wont be very fun lol Being a military professional correct me if i am wrong, yourself i hope you know that. Peace time or not all aircraft have to meet a certain availability criteria as per USA standards and currently the F-22 is not even close to the time it needs to spend in the air. I can again post many articles and videos but that again would make this very long but if anyone wants more details please feel free to msg me anytime lol.
3) LOL i dont watch any b-grade movies and i hope you are not also because i guess you dint understand that when i said that if a jet sees the MKI on its radar it should run i was being sarcastic lol. Thanks for educating me but i know enough to know what i am saying. My point was that by comparing the JF-17 to a MKI you are truly underestimating the MKI and if ever i am in a JF-17 or F-7 or mirage 3 (jets that PAF has), and i get into a dogfight or a BVR fight with a suspected MKI the chances for a win for anyone of the PAF jets is slim to none.
My comments aren’t silly its yours that are not backed on any logic please give me facts about the JF-17 about how its better or even in the same league at a MKI only then i can agree which i am really waiting for. Till now I have not seen even one reason why the JF-17 wont survive let alone beat the MKI lol Again refrain from making personal comments and stick to the topic.
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