Gucci Juice
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i think we should compare mki against F-16 or J-10, instead of mki vs jf-17.
jf-17 is better compared with the lca
here's different classes of fighters:
light: Jf-17, LCA, Gripen
Medium: F-16, J-10, Mirage 2000,
Heavy: F-15, F/A-18, Mig-29, Rafael, Eurofighter, Su-30
people here are saying that the size doesn't matter in bvr because all u need in aewacs and missiles. its not as simple as that people. in a bvr fight once you have locked on with a missile at around 70-80 km the other fighter will also lock on to you they will both fire and try to help their missile reach a range (10-15 km) where the missile's radar can take over, then they will turn back, once that happens the fighter with the most fuel and the highest T/W ratio will have an advantage, when it turns the other way and fires flares and chaff like crazy and goes to max speed to avoid the mach 5 missile.
thus a light fighter cannot be compared with a heavy fighter because the heavy fighter has 2 engines instead of one giving it a higher t/w ratio and it also has a lot more fuel giving it more combat time in the air, also in a close combat dogfight the fuel reserves of a light airplane are only enough for 10-15 minutes of combat before they have to break off and run which isn't feasible and for the heavy plane it isn't much higher maybe 5-10 minutes more, but that 5-10 minutes is critical in a dogfight where your enemy is almost out of fuel.
my source? Dogfights on History channel
i think its better to compare mki with f-16 or j-10 because they're a bit larger and a bit more advanced.
i'm asking the moderators to open up another thread comparing mki with f-16 of j-10.
jf-17 is better compared with the lca
here's different classes of fighters:
light: Jf-17, LCA, Gripen
Medium: F-16, J-10, Mirage 2000,
Heavy: F-15, F/A-18, Mig-29, Rafael, Eurofighter, Su-30
people here are saying that the size doesn't matter in bvr because all u need in aewacs and missiles. its not as simple as that people. in a bvr fight once you have locked on with a missile at around 70-80 km the other fighter will also lock on to you they will both fire and try to help their missile reach a range (10-15 km) where the missile's radar can take over, then they will turn back, once that happens the fighter with the most fuel and the highest T/W ratio will have an advantage, when it turns the other way and fires flares and chaff like crazy and goes to max speed to avoid the mach 5 missile.
thus a light fighter cannot be compared with a heavy fighter because the heavy fighter has 2 engines instead of one giving it a higher t/w ratio and it also has a lot more fuel giving it more combat time in the air, also in a close combat dogfight the fuel reserves of a light airplane are only enough for 10-15 minutes of combat before they have to break off and run which isn't feasible and for the heavy plane it isn't much higher maybe 5-10 minutes more, but that 5-10 minutes is critical in a dogfight where your enemy is almost out of fuel.
my source? Dogfights on History channel
i think its better to compare mki with f-16 or j-10 because they're a bit larger and a bit more advanced.
i'm asking the moderators to open up another thread comparing mki with f-16 of j-10.