Su-30 dangerously close to Il-76

[Mughal-Prince]

You tell me? It has been 70 years of peddling more finality. Pakistan has twice more people then Russia. Can we make anything to match the Russian Su-30s?

Army chief calls for widening scope of madressah education

https://www.dawn.com/news/1375246/army-chief-calls-for-widening-scope-of-madressah-education

It seems you are having some personal score with finality.
Apart from your links which I have not taken in account but its title so I say their is a certain percentage in maderessah not all of the population but I have my concerns over it.
Still it has nothing to do with your progress. I have seen boys graduated from maderresah and later graduated from premium universities in a subject like Mechatronics with flying colors and now contributing towards the betterment of our defence systems.
I myself trying to raise some funds in order to invest in technology.
Its all about willing so I have a will and I am not complaining and I know I will achieve my goals.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Still it has nothing to do with your progress

Let the COAS know. Did you read trhe article?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You know what impresses me here? Not the flying. Any nutter with loose bolts could pull this off. What is impressive here is the human resources - Russian men and women who design, make this technology.

While we talk of finality of the prophet and launch jihads to defend Islam.

Unfortunately a lot of our brethren don't even need much persuasion in this regard

 

[Ocean]

Why didn't they let him in?

Why didn't they let him in?

Because he was never meant to and how can an aircraft run into another aircraft
https://theaviationist.com/2017/12/...76-airlifter-involved-in-air-drop-over-syria/

Very skilled pilot.

The machine is a beast too ,wonder if it would be possibel to pull such a manoeuvre on f16 or jf17

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Just imagine if the pilot of IL-76 had suddenly pressed the brakes paddle

 

[CriticalThought]

You know what impresses me here? Not the flying. Any nutter with loose bolts could pull this off. What is impressive here is the human resources - Russian men and women who design, make this technology.

While we talk of finality of the prophet and launch jihads to defend Islam.

Yes. The retrogressive bas*ards who keep trying to subvert and change existing legislation on the finality issue should be thrown in front of the firing squad for wasting previous resources and causing undue unrest in the country. Completely agree. We are seeing eye to eye on this issue.

 

[Maxpane]

like eagle woooooooooooow

 

[jamahir]

Those Russians are crazy.

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

Just imagine if the pilot of IL-76 had suddenly pressed the brakes paddle

Simple traffic rule. If his tail lights were working and the Flanker smashed his behind. The Flanker driver will foot the repair bill plus fine.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

There are 2-3 main problems religion itself is not le problem.

1) Mixing of politics with religion. And having population that is too sentimental and different religious and political parties exploit those emotion to keep Pakistanis divided.

2) Morally corrupt politicians willing to sell out their country for dollar. And now u can add Pakistani awam as well. Thanks to a persistent de sensitization through indian media, information war, psychological warfare( There is no electricity at night most of population cannot sleep at night. Cant work properly in day time cuz there is no electricity again. Keep that up for a few years you get psychologically vulnerable people. To solve this problem Kala Bagh could have been built. But no politician let that happen. Do you think that is by accident????? And this is just one example of an i tricate system of the type of war we are in)

3) Rapidly diminishing economy and lack of justice.

Etc etc etc (very few people have actual real ACEDAMIC understanding of religion in Pakistan)
Most are just with making dua to a grave without knowing if it has a do key or a man inside.

You know what impresses me here? Not the flying. Any nutter with loose bolts could pull this off. What is impressive here is the human resources - Russian men and women who design, make this technology.

While we talk of finality of the prophet and launch jihads to defend Islam.

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

There are 2-3 main problems religion itself is not le problem.

1) Mixing of politics with religion. And having population that is too sentimental and different religious and political parties exploit those emotion to keep Pakistanis divided.

2) Morally corrupt politicians willing to sell out their country for dollar. And now u can add Pakistani awam as well. Thanks to a persistent de sensitization through indian media, information war, psychological warfare( There is no electricity at night most of population cannot sleep at night. Cant work properly in day time cuz there is no electricity again. Keep that up for a few years you get psychologically vulnerable people. To solve this problem Kala Bagh could have been built. But no politician let that happen. Do you think that is by accident????? And this is just one example of an i tricate system of the type of war we are in)

3) Rapidly diminishing economy and lack of justice.

Etc etc etc (very few people have actual real ACEDAMIC understanding of religion in Pakistan)
Most are just with making dua to a grave without knowing if it has a do key or a man inside.

Mixing of religion and politics is not a problem per se as the late Allama Muhammad Iqbal pointed out a century ago, "Juda ho deen siyasat say to reh jati hai Changezi"

The problem is "neem hakeem" of religion as you implied in your second and third points.
Our so called Ulema have forgotten to win an argument on the basis of "Daleel" and every one now believes in "might is right". In the words of Americans "you are with us or against us"

That's not what Islam and Prophet Muhammad (S-A-W) taught us. All of this has resulted from a collective diminishing of "Bardasht" "Burdbari" and "tahamul" in the society.
Media has played it's own role. But the distance our children have got from their elders especially the grandparents is also a factor.
From the onset we are telling our children to "get more marks than falaan cousin" and than get a better job than that guy, earn more money than falaan khala ka beta.
In short, we as a society are asking for more but not for "Barkat"
So this moral decline is as a whole due to the varying factors.
"It takes a village to raise a child"

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

This moral decline is being witnessed on global level. And is fulfillment of end times ahadith by beloved Muhammad (S.A.W)

Mixing of religion and politics is not a problem per se as the late Allama Muhammad Iqbal pointed out a century ago, "Juda ho deen siyasat say to reh jati hai Changezi"

The problem is "neem hakeem" of religion as you implied in your second and third points.
Our so called Ulema have forgotten to win an argument on the basis of "Daleel" and every one now believes in "might is right". In the words of Americans "you are with us or against us"

That's not what Islam and Prophet Muhammad (S-A-W) taught us. All of this has resulted from a collective diminishing of "Bardasht" "Burdbari" and "tahamul" in the society.
Media has played it's own role. But the distance our children have got from their elders especially the grandparents is also a factor.
From the onset we are telling our children to "get more marks than falaan cousin" and than get a better job than that guy, earn more money than falaan khala ka beta.
In short, we as a society are asking for more but not for "Barkat"
So this moral decline is as a whole due to the varying factors.
"It takes a village to raise a child"

And bro info and psych wars have a deep resonating effect. Arab Spring was engineered on social media and result is in front of you.

The raj govt conducted such mind games and indoctrination that we are still struggling to recover.

 

[Windjammer]

Impressive, although the RAF did a similar photo shoot with a couple of EF Typhoons.
The sheer size of the SU-30 makes it look more dramatic.

 

[airmarshal]

What was he doing so close to the rear? It seems like it was fortunate the dropping cargo did not hit Su-30.

 

[livingdead]

Shows that white people are made of something crazy.

hmm... not really...