Study: Indian Muslims Worse Off Than Untouchables and Falling Further

[GumNaam]

That is true. But the MOdi govt. gave citizenship to 4,300 refugees from pakistan and Afghanistan.

imagine how of them are our assets...

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Top/bottom lines: Fear is no policy, surrender is no option

Muslims in India: lower than the Untouchables in socio-economic conditions

Muslims in BD: termed and treated like the Termites by the Indian Hindus

Now, the above have happened to the most docile and submissive types of folks who have left no avenues unchartered to please the Hindus! What'll happen to the Pak folks if, God forbid, India ever gets an upper hand??????

Every drop of blood/sweat and every cent Pak sacrifices for her defense are Helal and Masum....

Interestingly, the Turkish national anthem expresses the Pak situation quite eloquently!!! In fact it is describing a MAD condition at the event of the loss of freedom!!! If you just change "crimson" with "green" the rest is one-to-one with the theme of "Fear is no policy, surrender is no option":

Fear not; For the crimson banner that proudly ripples in this glorious dawn, shall not fade,
Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my homeland is extinguished.
For that is the star of my people, and it will forever shine;
It is mine; and solely belongs to my valiant nation.

Frown not, I beseech you, oh thou coy crescent!
Smile upon my heroic nation! Why the anger, why the rage?
Our blood which we shed for you shall not be worthy otherwise;
For freedom is the absolute right of my God-worshipping nation!

I have been free since the beginning and forever shall be so.
What madman shall put me in chains! I defy the very idea!
I'm like the roaring flood; trampling my banks and overcoming my body,
I'll tear apart mountains, exceed the Expanses and still gush out!

The horizons of the West may be bound with walls of steel,
But my borders are guarded by the mighty bosom of a believer.
Bellow out, do not be afraid! And think: how can this fiery faith ever be extinguished,
By that battered, single-fanged monster you call "civilization"?

My friend! Leave not my homeland to the hands of villainous men!
Render your chest as armour and your body as bulwark! Halt this disgraceful assault!
For soon shall come the joyous days of divine promise;
Who knows? Perhaps tomorrow? Perhaps even sooner!

View not the soil you tread on as mere earth - recognize it!
And think about the shroudless thousands who lie so nobly beneath you.
You're the glorious son of a martyr - take shame, grieve not your ancestors!
Unhand not, even when you're promised worlds, this heavenly homeland.

Who would not sacrifice their life for this paradise of a country?
Martyrs would burst forth should one simply squeeze the soil! Martyrs!
May God take my life, my loved ones, and all possessions from me if He will,
But let Him not deprive me of my one true homeland in the world.

Oh glorious God, the sole wish of my pain-stricken heart is that,
No heathen's hand should ever touch the bosom of my sacred Temples.
These adhans and their testimonies are the foundations of my religion,
And may their noble sound prevail thunderously across my eternal homeland.

For only then, shall my fatigued tombstone, if there is one, prostrate a thousand times in ecstasy,
And tears of blood shall, oh Lord, spill out from my every wound,
And my lifeless body shall burst forth from the earth like an eternal spirit,
Perhaps only then, shall I peacefully ascend and at long last reach the heavens.

So ripple and wave like the bright dawning sky, oh thou glorious crescent,
So that our every last drop of blood may finally be blessed and worthy!
Neither you nor my kin shall ever be extinguished!
For freedom is the absolute right of my ever-free flag;
For independence is the absolute right of my God-worshipping nation!

 

[prashantazazel]

Mainly due to the lack of education. You need modern education to succeed. The high paying private companies (plus the government sector) doesn't really care about your faith. Unless you wear faith on your sleeves.
Muslims can learn from other communities in this regard. The Sikhs have done extremely well in businesses, agriculture and landing other high paying jobs. The Christians are mostly located in the state with higher income. Parsis have done well too.

There are backward people in every community in India. The extent differs.
Most Hindus still practice their backward customs too. It hurts them less as they are the larger group.
Muslims have to become more progressive than the others to be successful in India. You can have either tradition, or money.

 

[GumNaam]

Mainly due to the lack of education. You need modern education to succeed. The high paying private companies (plus the government sector) doesn't really care about your faith. Unless you wear faith on your sleeves.
Muslims can learn from other communities in this regard. The Sikhs have done extremely well in businesses, agriculture and landing other high paying jobs. The Christians are mostly located in the state with higher income. Parsis have done well too.

There are backward people in every community in India. The extent differs.
Most Hindus still practice their backward customs too. It hurts them less as they are the larger group.
Muslims have to become more progressive than the others to be successful in India. You can have either tradition, or money.

understand something loud and clear, us Muslims do NOT need a lecture on how to become progressive from the likes of a citizen of a country that is being ran by a fascist extremist hindu government where even a small 10 year old girl doesn't know if she will return home from school with her virginity intact or would be raped let alone return at all. The Muslim civilization is torch bearer of the fundamental sciences that the western world embraced and then built upon resulting in what we have today. As a civilization, we did loose our way when we gave up our core fundamentals and started following and listening to sectarian scholars who were too busy debating if "a pig is allowed to eat if it was disguised as a goat" when the mongols invaded and ransacked them. The following of such scholars is now coming to an end as you can tell by the side-lining of "scholars" in countries like Saudi Arabia, the dismal response of the call to confrontation by the tlp mullas in Pakistan and the practice of the core Islamic values in countries like Turkey WITHOUT being a theocracy and we, as a civilization, are starting to slowly go back to our core Islamic fundamentals of fearing no one but Allah, believing in the finality of The Holy Prophet's prophethood and adhering to a very core Islamic principles of justice, mercy, brotherhood and EXPLORING God's universe around us, let last one being the beginning of science. The new resurgent Islamic mindset will so also see the rise of the Islamic dominance in the fields of sciences and economics. So stay tuned...

 

[pothead]

India is not alone in societies which have shown a rightward lurch. But that's no excuse. It's a fact that Indian Civil society and discourse has become more anti Muslim in the last decade.

last decade?

Wonder what the discourse was in 1980's and 90's when million Hindus were butchered, raped, murdered and kicked out of Kashmir?!!

The cover up of Islamic invasion barbarity on India is at a Vatican level.

What happened in the last decade is that Hindus have had enough and started calling out the BS.

25 years back when I was a kid, my neighbour who was a muslim had 23 kids with a single wife.
He used to have a mutton shop but to feed that huge family he borrowed a lot of money.
Eventually he killed himself unable to pay off the debt.

You can do a PhD on his life and it would represent a microcosm of why muslims in India have the worst social indices.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

because India is paradise it has eveything better than whole europe put together including America which is now run and owned by indians. Donald trump has converted to rss.

God Trump has heard the prayers and has granted waivers for procuring S-400 from Russia, Oil from Iran and Build/use Chabahar port.

I say more power to such prayers that bring prosperity to India.

 

[GumNaam]

God Trump has heard the prayers and has granted waivers for procuring S-400 from Russia, Oil from Iran and Build/use Chabahar port.

I say more power to such prayers that bring prosperity to India.

koi sharm hoti hay, koi haya hoti hay, your god lord trump first proved the s400 completely ineffective by repeatedly jamming it and violating its airspace in Syria and then, instead of selling the more effective and the only war tested ABM system patriot to you, he let you waste your money on the same s400 and that too, knowing full well that since China now has the s400s in their possession, Pakistanis will closely examine every nook and crany of it. aisaay bhagvaan say to raanwarr behtar!!! tumhara god lord trump tum hay hi payara ho...

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Like the Muslims like to say, lets discuss the "root cause".

Considering that micro minorities like parsi and minorities like christians, jains, sikhs and buddhists do better than Hindus, I wonder what is keeping the muslims at the bottom.

Because Family Planning is un-Islamic.

'Family planning is un-Islamic'

Dhananjay Mahapatra| TNN | Apr 5, 2008, 02:13 IST

NEW DELHI: The law prohibiting a person having more than two children from contesting panchayat elections was challenged in the Supreme Court on Friday by Samajwadi Party MP Abu Asim Azmi on the ground that it violated the Islamic dictat that no Muslim would restrict birth of children.
Azmi, recently in the thick of a controversy for picking up cudgels against Raj Thackeray's anti-north Indian tirade, challenged a Bombay High Court order which had dismissed his petition by following a 2003 SC judgment upholding the norm for Haryana panchayat elections.

Undeterred by the apex court judgment, Azmi said under Articles 25 and 26 of the Constitution, Muslims had the fundamental right to profess and practice Islam according to the dictats of Quran.

"Profess and practice of religion includes following the essential and integral dictats of the Holy Book Quran, which is the only soul of Islam and Islamic law,"Azmi said through counsel Goodwill Indeevar.

"Not to kill any unborn child or restrict its birth either before or post conceiving is the essential and integral part of Islam,"he said and termed the Maharashtra local bodies norm framed in the year 2000 as violative of the fundamental rights of Muslims.
The Supreme Court had upheld an identical norm enacted by the Haryana legislature and rejected the argument that identical disqualification norms had not been put in force for the assembly and Parliament. It had said that every state legislature was given the freedom to enact suitable laws for panchayats.
Having failed to impress the HC with the argument that the disqualification norm applied only to the local bodies, Azmi thought of drafting in the religious angle into the petition.
The hearing on the petition was adjourned by a Bench comprising Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan and Justice Aftab Alam as the petitioner had circulated a letter seeking deferment of hearing.
dhananjay.mahapatra@timesgroup.com
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Family-planning-is-un-Islamic/articleshow/2927089.cms

koi sharm hoti hay, koi haya hoti hay, your god lord trump first proved the s400 completely ineffective by repeatedly jamming it and violating its airspace in Syria and then, instead of selling the more effective and the only war tested ABM system patriot to you, he let you waste your money on the same s400 and that too, knowing full well that since China now has the s400s in their possession, Pakistanis will closely examine every nook and crany of it. aisaay bhagvaan say to raanwarr behtar!!! tumhara god lord trump tum hay hi payara ho...

Don't be so jealous. China will sell you HQ-9s.

 

[Azadkashmir]

God Trump has heard the prayers and has granted waivers for procuring S-400 from Russia, Oil from Iran and Build/use Chabahar port.

I say more power to such prayers that bring prosperity to India.

inshallah india will receive more prosperity so they can build toilets..

 

[GumNaam]

Because Family Planning is un-Islamic.

'Family planning is un-Islamic'

Dhananjay Mahapatra| TNN | Apr 5, 2008, 02:13 IST

NEW DELHI: The law prohibiting a person having more than two children from contesting panchayat elections was challenged in the Supreme Court on Friday by Samajwadi Party MP Abu Asim Azmi on the ground that it violated the Islamic dictat that no Muslim would restrict birth of children.
Azmi, recently in the thick of a controversy for picking up cudgels against Raj Thackeray's anti-north Indian tirade, challenged a Bombay High Court order which had dismissed his petition by following a 2003 SC judgment upholding the norm for Haryana panchayat elections.

Undeterred by the apex court judgment, Azmi said under Articles 25 and 26 of the Constitution, Muslims had the fundamental right to profess and practice Islam according to the dictats of Quran.

"Profess and practice of religion includes following the essential and integral dictats of the Holy Book Quran, which is the only soul of Islam and Islamic law,"Azmi said through counsel Goodwill Indeevar.

"Not to kill any unborn child or restrict its birth either before or post conceiving is the essential and integral part of Islam,"he said and termed the Maharashtra local bodies norm framed in the year 2000 as violative of the fundamental rights of Muslims.
The Supreme Court had upheld an identical norm enacted by the Haryana legislature and rejected the argument that identical disqualification norms had not been put in force for the assembly and Parliament. It had said that every state legislature was given the freedom to enact suitable laws for panchayats.
Having failed to impress the HC with the argument that the disqualification norm applied only to the local bodies, Azmi thought of drafting in the religious angle into the petition.
The hearing on the petition was adjourned by a Bench comprising Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan and Justice Aftab Alam as the petitioner had circulated a letter seeking deferment of hearing.
dhananjay.mahapatra@timesgroup.com
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Family-planning-is-un-Islamic/articleshow/2927089.cms



Don't be so jealous. China will sell you HQ-9s.

3rd largest missile for in the world, we don't need to be jealous.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

inshallah india will receive more prosperity so they can build toilets..

American Standard will be every where and in the process making both America and India great again.

 

[Azadkashmir]

American Standard will be every where and in the process making both America and India great again.

true American standard toilets.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

true American standard toilets.

That is what I meant. What else did you think?

 

[GumNaam]

That is what I meant. What else did you think?

the american standard for a toilet and urinal is india!

 

[Jackdaws]

Indian society was secular for more than 2000 years, not 70.

Sikhs too had terrorism, but they moved on.

The real problem is when muslim try to establish their identity by being "Not Hindu".

The same way pakistan's identity is "not Indian".

I agree.

Like the Muslims like to say, lets discuss the "root cause".

Considering that micro minorities like parsi and minorities like christians, jains, sikhs and buddhists do better than Hindus, I wonder what is keeping the muslims at the bottom.

I would say lack of education, large families, discrimination among women. If 50% of your population is only going to sit and home and not be allowed to work, you are pretty much doomed.

last decade?

Wonder what the discourse was in 1980's and 90's when million Hindus were butchered, raped, murdered and kicked out of Kashmir?!!

The cover up of Islamic invasion barbarity on India is at a Vatican level.

What happened in the last decade is that Hindus have had enough and started calling out the BS.

25 years back when I was a kid, my neighbour who was a muslim had 23 kids with a single wife.
He used to have a mutton shop but to feed that huge family he borrowed a lot of money.
Eventually he killed himself unable to pay off the debt.

You can do a PhD on his life and it would represent a microcosm of why muslims in India have the worst social indices.

I really am not surprised you grew up in a pathetic neighborhood. It explains a lot about your background, thoughts and rapist tendencies. My condolences bhakt. But keep your filthy bhakt paws off women and children this Diwali or any other day. Good bhakt. Now back to your kennel.