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Please can someone tell me why Turkish rulers of Iran is posted here as they were Persians? Dude... Persians natured the some greatest scholars of Middle East but after Islam and specially after Turkic migration they didn't rule anything.... They took the rule after 20th century and until then they were ruled by Turkish people which we call Azeris thanks to USSRs assimilation policies...

"It was this Persian Islam, rather than the original Arab Islam, that was brought to new areas and new peoples: to the Turks, first in Central Asia and then in the Middle East in the country which came to be called Turkey, and of course to India. The Ottoman Turks brought a form of Iranian civilization to the walls of Vienna..."

- Bernard Lewis.
 
I don't need a quot from westerns. We are and were the victorious and we wrote the history. Its well known the the defeated side would try to distort it to hide his constant humiliating defeats throught history.
:smokin:

do you know at the end of Ommayed dynasty only 10% of Iranian were Muslims
and it was at 12th century that more than 90% of Iranian become Muslim.
as you see Iranian becoming Muslim have nothing to do with Arabs .
 
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Please can someone tell me why Turkish rulers of Iran is posted here as they were Persians? Dude... Persians natured the some greatest scholars of Middle East but after Islam and specially after Turkic migration they didn't rule anything.... They took the rule after 20th century and until then they were ruled by Turkish people which we call Azeris thanks to USSRs assimilation policies...

I know what you mean. but trust me one day persian empire will rise again!

as for your azeris, they see themselves as Iranian, do you know most Iranian here are some part azeri?
go ahead and ask them if they think they are turks lol
 
You just look at this!

Just mention them! and show me they are the majority. Then I will mention Arab sceintists and see which side has the majority. :drag:
All I saw is about 10 "Persian" speaking scientists and most of them were born in central Asia.
 
do you know at the end of Ommayed dynasty only 10% of Iranian were Muslims
and it was at 12th century that more than 90% of Iranian become Muslim.
as you see Iranian becoming Muslim have nothing to do with Arabs .

HEHEHE right, right...:lol:
 
I keep saying aryan means to be Iranian. the oldest inscrption about aryans in behistoon says so.

please don't say arabs are aryans. I dont want to slit my wrist.
 
HEHEHE right, right...:lol:
well as a rule I'm always right
this from wiki
Richard Bulliet's "conversion curve" indicates that only about 10% of Iran converted to Islam during the relatively Arab-centric Umayyad period. Following the Abbasid revolution of 749-51, in which Iranian converts played a major role, the Caliphate's center of gravity moved to Mesopotamia and underwent significant Iranian influences.[8] Accordingly, the Muslim population of Iran rose from approx. 40% in the mid 9th century to close to 100% by the end of 11th century.[9]

you see Iranian become Muslim under Iranian dynasties not Arabs
 
persia was the first super power on this planet,

Define superpower? Why first?

and under its reign under darius and cyrus it had almost 40-50% of the worlds population under it.

Source?

it was a very tolerant empire. unlike others we did not force people to follow our zoroastrian religion.

There were other empires which did not force religion to their subjugated people. So nothing unique in this regard.

christrians and islam simply took so much from zoroastrian but they will never admit it.
the idea of a single god came from zorastrian, same with hell and heaven and devil.

Monotheism has been around much longer. The concept of one God did not originate from Zoroaster, it pre-dates him. Same with the concept of hell and heaven. A devil-like figure is also present in Ancient Egypt mythology.
 
The following is a non-comprehensive list of Persian scientists and engineers that lived from antiquity up until the beginning of the modern age.
Contents:

A

Abdol-Hamid, founder of Arabic prose along with the fellow Persian Ibn Muqaffa.
Abhari, mathematician.
Abu Dawood, Islamic scholar.
Abū Ḥanīfa, Islamic scholar.
Abu Nasr e Mansur, mathematician.
Abu Sa'id al-Darir al-Jurajani
Abu Wafa Buzjani, mathematician.
Azod al-Dowleh, prominent scientific patron
Ahmad ibn Farrokh, physician.
Ahmad Ibn Imad ul-din, physician and chemist.
Ala'eddin, constructed the Counterweight Trebuchet for Kubilai. He was thus honoured in the official history of China's Yuan Dynasty. (p119)
Alavi Shirazi, royal physician to India.
Alhazen, or Ebne Heisam in Persian.
Amuli, Muhammad ibn Mahmud, physician.
Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin
Ansari, Khwaja Abdullah, Islamic scholar.
An Shihkao
Aqa-Kermani, physician.
Aqsara'i, physician.
Arzani, Muqim, physician.
Astarabadi, physician.
Aufi, Muhammad, scientist and historian
Avicenna (Ibn Sina), physician, philosopher
Azophi, a.k.a. Abdorrahman Sufi, astronomer from Ray that invented the meridian ring.
Ghiyāth al-Dīn Jamshīd ibn Masʾūd al-Kāshī,astronomer and mathematician.
Abdollah Javadi-Amoli Philosoph shia

B

Baghawi, Islamic scholar
Bahai, Sheikhpoet, mathematician, and astronomer,engineer,designer,faghih(religious scientist),Architect
Baladhuri, historian, d.892
Balkhi, a.k.a. Albumasar, mathematician
Balkhi, Ibn Sahl, geographer and mathematician
Balkhi, Ibn
Banū Mūsā Brothers
Barmak, Khaled, Bhuddist from Khorasan in the court of al-Mansur, initiated the Greek translation movement of the Abbasid House of Wisdom
Bayhaqi, historian
Behbahani, Vahid, theologian
Ibn Bibi, historian of the Seljuks of Rum
Biruni, astronomer and mathematician
Bukhari, prominent Islamic scholar
Bukhtishu, Persian Christian physician of Academy of Gundishapur
Bukhtishu, Abdollah ibn, Christian physician in Persia
Bukhtishu, Gabriel ibn, Christian physician
Bukhtishu, Yuhanna, Christian physician
Burzoe, a.k.a. Borzouyeh-i Tabib, physician of Academy of Gundishapur
Birjandi astronomer and mathematician 16th century

D

Dīnawarī, Abū Ḥanīfa, d.896, polymath
Dinawaree, ibn Qutaybah, d.885, historian

E

Esfarayeni, physician

F

Farghani, d.880, a.k.a. Alfraganus, astronomer
Farabi, d.950, (Al-Farabi, Pharabius), philosopher
Kamal al-Din Farisi, d.1318, mathematician
Fazari, Ibrahim, d.777, mathematician and astronomer
Fazari, Mohammad, d.796, mathematician and astronomer
Ferdowsi, d.1020, the famous poet
Feyz Kashani, Mohsen, d.1680, theologian

G

Geber; Jaber ibn Hayan, d.815, chemist. Known as Geber in English.
Gardezi, Abu Said, d.1061, geographer and historian
Ghazali (Algazel), d.1111, philosopher
Gilani, Hakim, d.1069, royal physician
Gorgani, Zayn al-Din Isma‘il ibn, d.1136, royal physician
Gorgani, Abu Saeed, , astronomer and mathematician
Gorgani, Rostam, physician
Gorgani e Masihi, see Masihi Gorgani, d.999, Avicenn'a master

H

Hakim Ghulam Imam, physician
Hakim Muhammad Mehdi Naqi, physician
Hakim Muhammad Sharif Khan, physician
Hakim Nishaburi, Islamic scholar
Hallaj, Mystic-philosopher
Haly Abbas, prominent physician
Hamadani, Ali, physician
Hamadani, Mir Sayyid Ali, poet and philosopher
Hanbal, Ahmad Ibn, Islamic scholar
Harawi, Abolfadl, astronomer of Buyid dynasty
Harawi, Muwaffak: See Al-Muwaffak, pharmacologist
Harawi, Muhammad ibn Yusuf, physician
Harawi, Ali, traveller
Majid Hassanizadeh, Professor of Hydrogeolgoy, Expertise: theories of porous media (Utrecht University, The Netherlands).[1]
Hasani, Qavameddin, physician
Hedayat, Habibollah, Nutritionist and Obstetrician Gynecologist
Hessaby, Mahmoud, physician

I

Ibn Abi Sadiq, "The Second Hippocrates", Avicenna's disciple
Ibn Haytham, physicist
Ibn Khaseb, physician
Ibn Khordadbeh, geographer
Ibn Rustah
Ilaqi, Yusef, Avicenna's pupil
Ilyas, Yusef ibn, physician
Isfahani Abol-fath, mathematician
Ibn Sina, (Avicenna), Philosopher and Physician
Isfahani, Jalaleddin, physician
Isfahani, Husayn, physician
Istakhri, geographer, gives the earliest known account of windmills
Iranshahri,philosopher,the teacher of Muhammad Zakaria Razi.

J

Jābir ibn Hayyān, a polymath who is considered the father of chemistry. He emphasized systematic experimentation, and did much to free alchemy from superstition and turn it into a science.
Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi
Jaghmini, physician
Jaldaki, physician
Juvayni, historian
Juwayni, philosopher
Juzjani, Abu Ubaid, physician
Jamasb, philosopher

K

Karaji, mathematician
Kashani (Kashi), mathematician
Kashfi, Jafar, theologian
Kazerouni, Masoud, physician
Kermani, Iwad, physician
Kermani, Shams-ud-Din, Islamic scholar
Khademhosseini, Alireza, Pioneer in Biomedical and Bioengineering
Khazeni, Abu Jafar, mathematician
Khazeni, Abolfath, physicist
Khayyám, Omar, poet, mathematician, and astronomer
Khorasani, Sultan Ali, physician
Khujandi, mathematician and astronomer
Khwarizmi (aka Al-Khwarazmi) creator of algorithm and algebra, mathematician and astronomer
Kushyar ibn Labban, mathematician, Nasavi's master
Kuhi, Rostam, mathematician
Kubra, Najmeddin

M

Mahani, mathematician
Muhammad al-Fazari
Muhammad Baqir Yazdi In the 17th century, He gave the pair of amicable numbers 9,363,584 and 9,437,056.
Majusi, Ibn Abbas, physician
Marvazi, astronomer and mathematician
Marvazi, Abu Taher, philosopher
Masawaiyh or Masuya
Mashallah ibn Athari, of Jewish origins, from Khorasan who designed the city of Baghdad based on Firouzabad
Masihi Gorgani, Avicenna's master
Mirza Ali Hakim, physician
Miskawayh, philosopher
Mostowfi Qazvini, geographer
Mullasadra, philosopher
Muqaffa, Ibn, founder of Arabic prose along with Abdol-Hamid.
bin Musa, Hasan, astronomer
bin Musa, Ahmad, astronomer
bin Musa, Muhammad, astronomer
Muwaffaq, Abu mansur, pharmacologist
Muhammad ibn Muhammad Tabrizi,philosopher

N

Nagawri, physician
Nahavandi, Benjamin, Jewish scholar
Nahavandi, Ahmad, astronomer
Nakhshabi, physician
Nasir Gebelli, computer scientist and video game developer
Nasir Khusraw, scientist, Ismaili scholar, mathematician, philosopher, Traveler and poet
Nasavi, mathematician
Natili Tabari, physician
Naubakht, Designer of the city of Baghdad
Naubakht, Fadhl ibn
Nawbakhty, Islamic scholar, philosopher
Nawbakhti, Ruh, Islamic scholar
Nayrizi, mathematician
Naqshband, Baha ud-Din, philosopher
Neishaburi, physician
Neishaburi, prominent Islamic scholar
Nizami Ganjavi, romantic poet
Nurbakhshi, physician

P

Paul the Persian, philosopher.

Q

Qazi Zadeh, prominent mathematician
Qazwini, Zakariya, physician
Qumi, Qazi Sa’id, theologian
Qumri, physician
Qushayri, Abd al-Karīm ibn Hawāzin, d.1074, philosopher

R

Razi, Amin, geographer
Razi Amoli, Fakhreddin, philosopher
Razi, Zakariya (Rhazes), chemist and physicist
Razi, Najmeddin
Rumi, Jalal ad-Din Muhammad
Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, historian, physician and politician
Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi, Physician

S

Sabzevari, Mulla Hadi, poet and philosopher
Saghani Ostorlabi, astronomer
Sahl, Fadl ibn
Sahl, Shapur ibn, physician
Salman the Persian, religion commentator, companion of Prophet Muhammad
Samarqandi, Najibeddin, physician
Samarqandi, Ashraf, mathematician, astronomer.
Sarakhsi, Muhammad ibn Ahmad, Islamic scholar
Seifzadeh, Hossein,S. Political Scientist, Iranian Studies,
Shahrastani historian of religions
Shahrazuri, philosopher and physician
Shahrazuri,Ibn al-Salah, Islamic scholar
Shaykh Tusi, famous Islamic scholar
Shaykh Saduq, theologian
Shirazi, Imad al-Din Mas'ud, physician
Shirazi, Muhammad Hadi Khorasani, physician
Shirazi, Qutbeddin, astronomer
Shirazi, Mahmud ibn Ilyas, physician
Shirazi, Najm al-Din Mahmud ibn Ilyas, physician
Shirazi, Qurayshi, physician
Shirazi, Sultan Waezin, theologian
Sijzi, mathematician
Sijzi, Mas'ud, physician
Soleiman ibn Hasan, physician
Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi: see Azophi
Suhrawardi, Shahab al-Din, philosopher

T

Tabarani, Abu al-Qasim, Islamic scholar
Tabari Amoli, prominent historian
Tabari, Natili Amoli: See Al-Natili
Tabari, ibn Farrukhan, astrologer and architect
Tabari, Abul Hasan, physician.
Tabari, Ibn Sahl, Jewish convert physician. Master of Rhazes
Tabrizi, Maqsud Ali, physician.
Taftazani, theologian, linguist
Tayfur, Ibn Abi Tahir, d.893, linguist
Tāriq, Yaqub ibn
Tirmidhi, Islamic scholar
Tunakabuni, physician
Tughra'i, physician
Tusi, Nizam ol-Molk, the great vizier
Tusi, Nasireddin, mathematician, philosopher
Tusi, Sharafeddin, mathematician

V

Amin al-Din Rashid al-Din Vatvat, scholar and physician.

W

Waqidi, historian

Y

Yaqūb ibn Tāriq
Yumn, Nazif ibn

Z

Zamakhshari, scholar and geographer.
Zarrin dast, oculist.
Zayn-e-Attar, physician

List of contemporary Iranian scientists, scholars, and engineers

List of Persian scientists and scholars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Define superpower? Why first?



Source?



There were other empires which did not force religion to their subjugated people. So nothing unique in this regard.



Monotheism has been around much longer. The concept of one God did not originate from Zoroaster, it pre-dates him. Same with the concept of hell and heaven. A devil-like figure is also present in Ancient Egypt mythology.

what stupid comment.

name me a religion that pre dates zorastriansm and prove it.
persian was a superpower whether you like it or not. definition? had 44% of all the world population under it.
List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

first empire on the planet to extend into many continent.

so go ahead and tell me why persia was not the first superpower.
you just a fool who is jealous.
 

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