Strongest Empires by timeline

[BLACKEAGLE]

Thats was the idea of UK: make France to fight senseless wars with its neighbors, meanwhile they captured colonies around the world. Your great Napoleon sold Louisiana to Anglo Saxons, so he could keep his stupid wars.



Ummayyad Empire had almost zero science. All Muslim science started with Abbasids (Persians).

Read and enjoy Arab greatness:

History of Science and Technology in Islam

 

[Mosamania]

Thats was the idea of UK: make France to fight senseless wars with its neighbors, meanwhile they captured colonies around the world. Your great Napoleon sold Louisiana to Anglo Saxons, so he could keep his stupid wars.



Ummayyad Empire had almost zero science. All Muslim science started with Abbasids (Persians).

Read and enjoy Arab greatness:

History of Science and Technology in Islam

I saw your Persian new year post where you offered a truce and peace and all I can say to you is "Been there done that" As you can see to these people "Race" is extremely important and for some reason they think that the Persian gene is superior than all others let them think what they wish brother.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I saw your Persian new year post where you offered a truce and peace and all I can say to you is "Been there done that" As you can see to these people "Race" is extremely important and for some reason they think that the Persian gene is superior than all others let them think what they wish brother.

I am ashamed to say this, and I was really hesitant to mention it but I will this time.
Iranians greatest leaders are Arab prophet Mohammed PBUH, Ali S, Hassan, Hussien....etc. And all of them are Arabs. So I don't understand their obsession to show Arabs as the inferior ethnicity. I remember reading Arab-Persian wars article and it mentioned their superior complex over other ethnicities. But hey, our leaders- Omar R, Kalid and others brook this superiority complex in the hardest way could someone imagine. God bless Omar Bin Alkhattab.

 

[nalandapride]

Mongols are used to snow, cold and even death hot deserts but they are not used to jungles... Maybe what he said about Indian summer is about extreme jungles of India?

Its not Jungle but the summer. In deserts temperature goes colder in Nights but our summer is not like that particularly North-west of the subcontinent is hottest area. During days, we have hot winds known as "Loo waves" which can make anyone sick and during nights not even a slight breeze and always high humidity. And when Monsoon comes it rains continuously for many hours. When Alexander came to sub-continent, his troops were annoyed by continuous Monsoon rains.

http://www.mongolianculture.com/MONGOL-ARMIES.htm

 

[Surenas]

I am ashamed to say this, and I was really hesitant to mention it but I will this time.
Iranians greatest leaders are Arab prophet Mohammed PBUH, Ali S, Hassan, Hussien....etc. And all of them are Arabs.

That depend on which Iranians you speak. The Arabs you mention are nothing to me. To me the greatest Iranian leaders are Cyrus the great, Dariush the Great, Shapur, Surena, etc. And maybe Iran is islamized, but the Persian culture is stronger than ever in Iran. The biggest festivity in Iran (Norooz) is of Persian/Zoroastrianism origin. People give their children more often a Persian name and the Shahname is for the Iranians like what the Quran is for muslims. No Iranian calls himself a Arab and they know their culture/history is far superior to the barbaric history of the Arabs.

 

[kollang]

I am ashamed to say this, and I was really hesitant to mention it but I will this time.
Iranians greatest leaders are Arab prophet Mohammed PBUH, Ali S, Hassan, Hussien....etc. And all of them are Arabs. So I don't understand their obsession to show Arabs as the inferior ethnicity. I remember reading Arab-Persian wars article and it mentioned their superior complex over other ethnicities. But hey, our leaders- Omar R, Kalid and others brook this superiority complex in the hardest way could someone imagine. God bless Omar Bin Alkhattab.

unlike you i always respect mosa.atleast he is sometimes realist.i also respected him more when he selected Iran as his second flaq.But for a reason he suddenly turned into our enemy.
i thank him again for his admirable post about new persian year.also other Iranian members thanked him.

 

[The SC]

I saw your Persian new year post where you offered a truce and peace and all I can say to you is "Been there done that" As you can see to these people "Race" is extremely important and for some reason they think that the Persian gene is superior than all others let them think what they wish brother.

There is only one human race or specie, the idea of different races and species belong to the animal kingdom and botanics.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Abbasids were Arabs but with very strong Persian influence. Almost all their viziers were Persians and they often had more power than califs themselves.

Wat? Are You Mad? Strong persian Influence, Thats wat the cause of end of Abbasid Caliphate.. Thats wat you were taught in Israel, Its completly Non-sense you are spiting here... Umayyads and Abbasid Both are branches From same clam.. Abbasid clan still Love and respect Umayyad clan..

 

[Surenas]

Richard N. Frye felt that Persian civilization was under-appreciated by other Muslims, and Arab Muslims in particular. Frye wrote:

"Arabs no longer understand the role of Iran and the Persian language in the formation of Islamic culture. Perhaps they wish to forget the past, but in so doing they remove the bases of their own spiritual, moral and cultural being…without the heritage of the past and a healthy respect for it…there is little chance for stability and proper growth."

This quote says it all.

 

[500]

Read and enjoy Arab greatness:

History of Science and Technology in Islam

I merely stated the fact: Ummayyad empire had very little science. If you check ur own link u will see that all scientists there are after 750 AD.

 

[The SC]

That depend on which Iranians you speak. The Arabs you mention are nothing to me. To me the greatest Iranian leaders are Cyrus the great, Dariush the Great, Shapur, Surena, etc. And maybe Iran is islamized, but the Persian culture is stronger than ever in Iran. The biggest festivity in Iran (Norooz) is of Persian/Zoroastrianism origin. People give their children more often a Persian name and the Shahname is for the Iranians like what the Quran is for muslims. No Iranian calls himself a Arab and they know their culture/history is far superior to the barbaric history of the Arabs.

You are speaking for yourself from the Netherlands, Unless you want/intend to stir some trouble in Iran, you should watch your words, the name is The Islamic Republic Of Iran and the latest elections showed what the majority of Iranians think and want.
Persians have accepted Islam and the Arabs who brought it to them since its inception 1500 years ago.

So how big an Iranian are you!, Persia was great 3000 years ago, and what you need to understand is that many civilisations preceded it and came after it.
Mesopotamia, Assyria and others made Persia what you feel so proud of, and both were in Arab lands, today Iraq and Syria without talking about The Egyptian Arab civilisation of more than 15 000 years of history.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

Richard N. Frye felt that Persian civilization was under-appreciated by other Muslims, and Arab Muslims in particular. Frye wrote:



This quote says it all.

Richard N. Frye also says:

It is not possible to go into the details of the spread of Islam throughout the Arabian peninsula and beyond, but many tribes accepted the new faith and some who were not Arabs, such as the descendants of the Persians who had settled in Yemen. They not only accepted Islam but helped defeat the uprising of a local prophet called al-Aswad, and thereafter they were called Abna' or 'sons', a distinct group in early Islam. Other prophets in various parts of Arabia sought followers but they fell before the message of Islam. For the first time in history the Arab tribes were united in following a new faith which gave them a common ideology and a force which changed the history of the world. It was not only due to a common religion, but the Quran solidified for the
Arabs a common language, a common culture and way of life. The inter-tribal rivalry was not ended, for it reappeared later during the Umayyad Caliphate, but Islam gave all Arabs a unity of purpose in conquests outside of the Arabian peninsula. This is a later story when the religion of the Arabs was transformed into a world religion with universal appeal.
Although it took several centuries and contacts with many peoples an Islamic culture and civilization developed, which produced an Islamic art and architecture, Islamic literatures, first in Arabic and then in other languages, Islamic governments and societies. Because of the brilliance of Islamic civilization the time before Islam was called Jahiliyya 'age of ignorance', perhaps unjustly, but only because Islam so transformed the world from India and China to the Atlantic Ocean that what transpired before Islam seems completely pale in comparison. The history of Islam, however, belongs to the next period of world history.

 

[Surenas]

Read and enjoy Arab greatness:

History of Science and Technology in Islam

Well, this 'Arab' greatness isn't that great. I spotted many Persian scientists in that article and credits given to Greeks.

Richard N. Frye also says:

Uh, ok? What does this have to do with the greatness of the Persian scientist and the fact that the Arab part in Islamic science is a tiny part?

 

[Cloakedvessel]

Well, this 'Arab' greatness isn't that great. I spotted many Persian scientists in that article and credits given to Greeks.



Uh, ok? What does this have to do with the greatness of the Persian scientist and the fact that the Arab part in Islamic science is a tiny part?

Because the same man you quote, speaks highly of 'Islamic civilization' and 'Arabs'.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

That depend on which Iranians you speak. The Arabs you mention are nothing to me. To me the greatest Iranian leaders are Cyrus the great, Dariush the Great, Shapur, Surena, etc. And maybe Iran is islamized, but the Persian culture is stronger than ever in Iran. The biggest festivity in Iran (Norooz) is of Persian/Zoroastrianism origin. People give their children more often a Persian name and the Shahname is for the Iranians like what the Quran is for muslims. No Iranian calls himself a Arab and they know their culture/history is far superior to the barbaric history of the Arabs.

Then, your nothing. Its as simple as that. As I stated before, you must be grateful to whom plucked you out of stench clutched of fire worship and guided you to the right path.

Well, this 'Arab' greatness isn't that great. I spotted many Persian scientists in that article and credits given to Greeks.



Uh, ok? What does this have to do with the greatness of the Persian scientist and the fact that the Arab part in Islamic science is a tiny part?

I will not start from the beginning, you just read previous posts and you will for sure find the answers.