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Strong Europe Tank Challenge

man the Italians didn't participate with their ariete i always wanted to see this underdog face off against the more popular tanks
 
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This year,Germany took the first place followed by Sweden and Austria. Congratulations to them and all other participating teams ! A great competition to promote interoperability,camaraderie etc. It would be good if more countries took part in this challenge.

During ORION exercise, the Portuguese Leo2A6NL operated with the Spanish Leo2E side-by-side. It could be interesting if the next challenge be in Southern Europe, the Italians and Greeks should join too
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Thanks
 
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To me the leopard 2 is sexier... idk there is something about it... wether the first gen that had a tiger 1 inspired turret or the pointy arrow shaped modern ones

Well the latter simply are spaced "wedge" armour added on top of the underlying frontal glacis of the earlier design. I don't think it would be too difficult to refurbish the older ones with the newer angular stuff if those operators deem it to be needed.

More fun vid:


Reminds me of a scene in the movie Buffalo soldiers when a bunch of drugged up yank tankers in a M60 run over a volkswagen beetle......and one of them is like "oh noooo... we ran over a beetle...*giggles*".
 
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Well the latter simply are spaced "wedge" armour added on top of the underlying frontal glacis of the earlier design. I don't think it would be too difficult to refurbish the older ones with the newer angular stuff if those operators deem it to be needed.

More fun vid:


Reminds me of a scene in the movie Buffalo soldiers when a bunch of drugged up yank tankers in a M60 run over a volkswagen beetle......and one of them is like "oh noooo... we ran over a beetle...*giggles*".
Yep... modular strap ons basically
 
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This year,Germany took the first place followed by Sweden and Austria. Congratulations to them and all other participating teams ! A great competition to promote interoperability,camaraderie etc. It would be good if more countries took part in this challenge.

The first four places were teams using the Leopard II.
The last four places were teams not using the Leopard II.
So far, in three years, this event has only seen Leopard II winners.
 
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The first four places were teams using the Leopard II.
The last four places were teams not using the Leopard II.
So far, in three years, this event has only seen Leopard II winners.

Seeing the tests,it didn't seem the Tanks performances really made a difference in the rankings. It was mostly due to the crews. There are also some tests in which countries operating tanks with 3 crews instead of 4 were penalized. (Ukrainians and French)

Despite operating the Leopard,the Poles came last the previous year,even behind the Ukrainians and their T-64BM.

You can assume some countries have more time to spent to train for those kind of competitions than others. :angel:
 
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Seeing the tests,it didn't seem the Tanks performances really made a difference in the rankings. It was mostly due to the crews. There are also some tests in which countries operating tanks with 3 crews instead of 4 were penalized. (Ukrainians and French)

Despite operating the Leopard,the Poles came last the previous year,even behind the Ukrainians and their T-64BM.

You can assume some countries have more time to spent to train for those kind of competitions than others. :angel:

A good argument for not having an autoloader is that you have an additional crewman that can help with maintenance and other tasks.

Sweden has been practicing for some time!
 
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A good argument for not having an autoloader is that you have an additional crewman that can help with maintenance and other tasks.

Sweden has been practicing for some time!

Meanwhile in Sweden ;


Too much time to spare it seems!

Full ranking ;

1st place - Germany, The 3rd Panzer Battalion (Leopard 2A6) 1450 points
2nd place - Sweden, Wartofta Tank Company, Skaraborg Regiment (Stridsvagn 122) 1411 points
3rd place - Austria, 6th Tank Company, 14th Panzer Battalion (Leopard 2A4) 1321 points
4th place - France, 1er Régiment de Chasseurs, 1st Hunter Regiment (AMX-56 Leclerc) 1186 points
5th place - Poland, 34th Armoured Cavalry Brigade (Leopard 2A5) 1151 points
6th place - United Kingdom, Queen’s Royal Hussars (Challenger II) 1140 points
7th place - USA, 2nd Battalion, 70th Armored Regiment, 2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division (M1A2 SEP) 1100 points
8th place - Ukraine, 1st Tank Company, 14th Mechanized Brigade (T-84U) 950 points
 
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Leopard machine gun on top of turret is not good. The remote weapons systems seems isnt yet equipped to all leopards which is not good for AA defense.
 
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