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Strategy Page Pak ordered 17 WZ-10. also receive two WZ -10 year-end.

Don't call them beast till these been proven. But we can call them our best bet against all odds.
They are way better than older Cobras which we use and few months back China produce 12 new WZ-1O with new powerful engine wz 16 and other upgrades which make the better than first produced WZ-10.
 
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Nice! 20 Z-10s came out of no where - apparently ;) - but after having received 3 of those for trial, a follow up order seemed logical.

Give a another surprise someday, tell us we are now operating seconded squadron of J-10B! :p:
 
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Seems the deal had been inked during the recent visit of Chinese President. We heard about some defence related deals that had been signed during the visit but no details emerged at that time and analysts were of the view that due to sensitive nature of the deals they have not been made public and it may take a while for them to surface.
 
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Hi,
Not so, when it comes to logistical challenges and training on two entirely different platform, given how expensive these machines are

Unless PAA is looking to diversify its CAS options. The WZ-10 will always be a special option in the fact that it is sanction free and it comes with very liberalized payment options. Whereas our previous experience with the Cobras has also remained everything one would expect of such a machine but they are much more difficult to sustain owing to sanctions and the fact that we can't a afford a lot of them. So the WZ-10 can help us even out this equation and ensure better CAS coverage over Ops area, earlier the task was restricted to the Cobras which had to land at makeshift pad to makeshift pad, fuel under rocket fire before hitting the enemy again and moving from one active engagement to the next.
 
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Unless PAA is looking to diversify its CAS options. The WZ-10 will always be a special option in the fact that it is sanction free and it comes with very liberalized payment options. Whereas our previous experience with the Cobras has also remained everything one would expect of such a machine but they are much more difficult to sustain owing to sanctions and the fact that we can't a afford a lot of them. So the WZ-10 can help us even out this equation and ensure better CAS coverage over Ops area, earlier the task was restricted to the Cobras which had to land at makeshift pad to makeshift pad, fuel under rocket fire before hitting the enemy again and moving from one active engagement to the next.

Aur Sethi Sahib keey haaal hai twadaa ? :cheers:

Aabb kaun siii CAS key zaroorat reh gaiii haiii ? Now the Operations are restricted to the cities where we probably need a SWAT like organization to operate.

On the other hand for conventional warfare I hope that the WZ-10 is up to the mark and we can procure them in some decent numbers !

Yahan meriii tou tax dei dei kar kamar tooot gaiii haiii....kuch aaap bhiii deiiin tou maybe we can procure them ! :whistle:
 
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Aur Sethi Sahib keey haaal hai twadaa ? :cheers:

Aabb kaun siii CAS key zaroorat reh gaiii haiii ? Now the Operations are restricted to the cities where we probably need a SWAT like organization to operate.

On the other hand for conventional warfare I hope that the WZ-10 is up to the mark and we can procure them in some decent numbers !

Yahan meriii tou tax dei dei kar kamar tooot gaiii haiii....kuch aaap bhiii deiiin tou maybe we can procure them ! :whistle:

Although the strongholds have been dismantled, operations against pockets of resistance will probably be ongoing for the next half decade at least. IBOs are of course, taking precedence over pitched battles against the terrorists due to the phase of operations we are in.
Bhai main toh cadet tha jab say mera NTN hai, aap nay tab chips apnay paison say nahi khareeday hongay jab main pehli tax return file kar raha tha :p:
 
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US Strategy Page website on May 26 entitled "Pakistani helicopter gunships receive a gift from China," the report said, Pakistan received three WZ -10 helicopter.

It reported that three armed helicopters allegedly is China gave Pakistan a gift in advance, in order to bar the trial as soon as possible, a move that seems to contribute to Pakistan ordered 17 WZ-10. Pakistan will also receive two WZ -10 year-end. US media commented that this will be the first overseas sales customers of this helicopter gunships.

It reported that China since the 1990s has been developing seven tons of WZ -10 helicopter. In 2010, the number of prototypes to test aviation field, to improve a number of issues in 2012, and volume production. WZ -10 with a 23 mm caliber cannon, there are four mount points, and can carry 16 Red Arrow -10 fiber-guided missiles (similar to the "Hellfire" missiles), or a greater number of rockets. At the same time, China also smaller (4.5 tons) of Wu straight -19 Armed / reconnaissance helicopter production.



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Warplanes: Pakistan Receives The Gift Of Gunship From China

May 25, 2015: Pakistan has apparently received the first three of twenty Chinese WZ-10 helicopter gunships. Pictures of two of them together have appeared. These first three were announced as a gift and were quickly delivered so Pakistan could try them out. This appears to have led to an order for 17 more. Or not, as the WZ-10 sale has been kept quiet. If Pakistan does buy 17 more WZ-10s it would be the first export customer. The sale is apparently a done deal as Pakistan is to receive two more WZ-10s by the end of the year.

China has been developing the 7 ton WZ-10 helicopter gunship since the 1990s. After 14 years of development there were several prototypes and a lot of unresolved problems. Attempts to buy or steal helicopter gunship technology from Russia and South Africa failed. In 2010 some of the prototypes were sent to Chinese Army aviation units for field testing. While not a failure, there were problems and at one point the WZ-10 was in danger of being abandoned. The Chinese persevered and fixed most of the defects by 2012 and put WZ-10 into production. The WZ-10 is armed with an autocannon (23mm to 30mm) and has four hard points that can carry 16 HJ10 laser guided missiles (similar to Hellfire) or even more unguided rockets.

Meanwhile China also put the smaller (4.5 ton) WZ-19 armed scout helicopter into production, partly as a backup if the WZ-10 failed. China wanted something more like the American AH-64 Apache and the WZ-10 was equipped to operate like the AH-64 or earlier AH-1 (which Pakistan has been using for a long time). The WZ-19 has been spotted in the air since 2010 and by 2012 was seen painted in military colors, meaning it was out of development and in service. The WZ-19 was earlier known as the Z-9W. The WZ-19 is yet another Chinese helicopter based on the Eurocopter Dauphin (which has been built under license in China since the 1990s. The WZ-19 is a 4.5 ton, two seat armed helicopter. It can carry a 23mm autocannon and up to a ton of munitions (missiles, usually). Cruising speed is 245 kilometers an hour and range is 700 kilometers. The WZ-19 is basically an upgraded Z-9W.

This site is run by morons. Not very reliable
 
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Unless PAA is looking to diversify its CAS options. The WZ-10 will always be a special option in the fact that it is sanction free and it comes with very liberalized payment options. Whereas our previous experience with the Cobras has also remained everything one would expect of such a machine but they are much more difficult to sustain owing to sanctions and the fact that we can't a afford a lot of them. So the WZ-10 can help us even out this equation and ensure better CAS coverage over Ops area, earlier the task was restricted to the Cobras which had to land at makeshift pad to makeshift pad, fuel under rocket fire before hitting the enemy again and moving from one active engagement to the next.
Hi,

Thanks for your detailed analysis on that.

So in Layman terms, youre saying that Z-10 will be the workhorse in gunship just llike f-16 is for he airfoece, if i am not mistaken.

Yes, I too believe that given rock solid relationship btw two countries we should aim to arm our army aviation with this gunship.

Please excuse me for my limited exposure to this particular subject (Gunships)

Also, could please shed some light on the difference btw pad landing and the one with landing gears. Tha davnatges and disadvantages for a person with limited knowledge like me.

Thanks
 
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in every other thread there r some members which r like,we should have 60 of them 70 of them 80,90... i mean like they think these toys come in free or they think we got zillion dollars defence budget.
 
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in every other thread there r some members which r like,we should have 60 of them 70 of them 80,90... i mean like they think these toys come in free or they think we got zillion dollars defence budget.
They are infected with a virus called 'Nishan'.
 
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in every other thread there r some members which r like,we should have 60 of them 70 of them 80,90... i mean like they think these toys come in free or they think we got zillion dollars defence budget.
60 are minimum specially the kind of insurgency we face and also to counter the cold start doctrine of our beloved India.
 
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