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Stop maligning the military

By Mohammad Jamil

The legal battle over the double murder committed by American national Raymond Davis is over, as the heirs of the two murdered Pakistanis have accepted Diyat, which is in accordance with the law of the land and Islamic injunctions. However, some political and religious leaders and media men question the haste in Davis’ release after settlement between the heirs of Fahim and Faizan and Raymond Davis.


Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly and PML-N leader formally declared that the military and the ISI played the main role in getting the release of Raymond Davis. Some irresponsible media men also share similar views without verifying from the legal heirs of the Faizan and Fahim, who reportedly received Rs. 200 million as blood money. After release of Raymond Davis, Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah had categorically stated that once Raymond was released by the Sessions Court, the Punjab government had no option but to set him free. It is unfortunate that the politicians are not willing to take ownership of their decisions.

Since the day Raymond Davis was arrested, the PPP and the PML-N had stated that they would accept court’s decision because the courts are independent. In a petition about Raymond Davis’ immunity, Lahore High Court had also declared that the matter of immunity would be decided by the trial court. PML-N spokesman Pervez Rashid while appearing on various TV channels accused the military of pressurizing the legal heirs of Faizan and Fahim into accepting the blood money. All politicians, analysts and panelists should be honest in giving their opinion and comments. They should realize that the personnel of the law enforcing agencies have given tremendous sacrifices and have lost more than 2000 personnel. How could they forget that the present military top brass had more than once refused to buckle under American pressure? Military had taken exception to the language used in the Kerry-Lugar Bill and had taken the position that Americans must respect Pakistanis. On the question of visas also, the military were averse to issuance of visas by Pakistan embassy in Washington without proper verification.

They should compare the present military top brass with the previous one, when on a telephone call, the government used to hand over any wanted person to the US. But now despite the tremendous pressure, Raymond Davis case was heard for at least 45 days. This case got wide projection at international level to the extent that US President Barrack Obama called for his release and US Senator John Kerry undertook a visit to Pakistan, while contacts at the highest level continued day in day out with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Yet the case has been decided in accordance with Pakistani law; Americans accepted that Raymond had no diplomatic immunity and expressed their regrets over the loss of four lives. It is true that there is a lot of hatred against America for its past shenanigans and now for continuing drone attacks, which has been condemned by the Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and COAS General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani in the strongest terms, stating that these attacks are unjustifiable and intolerable. Earlier, military had resisted the efforts to place the ISI under interior ministry, as desired by the government and the US.

As regards Raymond Davis’ release, legal fraternity seems divided. Some question the haste in which Raymond Davis has been released. But there is another view. Former Lahore High Court chief justice Dr Javed Iqbal and former judges Dr Khalid Ranjha and Nazir Ahmad Ghazi said that law provides for Diyat and the court has to accept it if both parties reach an agreement un Diyat law. Advocate Asad Manzoor Butt, who earlier represented the victims throughout the trial, said the jail authorities did not allow him to enter the courtroom and he was kept in ‘detention’ for four hours till the proceedings were over. He did not believe that his clients agreed to Diyat of their free will and was mulling the option to lead his ‘detention’ matter to the court of law. But again this is travesty of the truth because legal heirs had cancelled his power of attorney/wakatnama and issued a new one in favour of another lawyer who prepared all the documentation. Our media men cry hoarse that why the government had kept the matter so confidential and why the people were not informed about the agreement beforehand. But the matter of Diyat was the matter between the two parties, and they had no right to question them.

Former foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has said that the release of Davis under the Diyat Law has vindicated the stand he and the Foreign Ministry had taken regarding his immunity. In an interview with a private TV channel on the release of the American, the former foreign minister said the nation must be taken into confidence about the circumstances that led to the release of the CIA spy. He however said it was the right of the legal heirs of the affected families to voluntarily pardon Davis, accept Diyat to pardon him or pursue the case to get him punished. Our media and politicians must be careful not to show to the world that they are divided. The US and the West have all along been accusing Pakistan of playing a double game and supporting and ensconcing the terrorists, which is travesty of the truth, as military could not arm the militants to get killed. It has to be said that thousands of military personnel and members of other law enforcing agencies have been martyred in the war on terror.

The nation was still grieving the terrible slaughters of Hangu and Bara that terrorists struck Nowshera recently when the monsters took 11 innocent lives, including two children’s, and gored another 25 with the blast of a time-bomb they had planted in the mosque of Akhwand Punjo Baba’s shrine. About thirty people were killed and more than 150 injured in a failed attack on the offices of the ISI in Faisalabad. The bomb was planted in a car that went off near the CNG station located near a ticketing office of the Pakistan International Airlines and also a regional office of the ISI. Indeed, there is need for a national strategy with built-in mechanism, and collaboration between intelligence agencies and security apparatuses of the Centre and the provinces at various levels is imperative. Instead of taking the terrorists head on, centre and provincial governments blame each other; Punjab provincial government complains that it is not getting the information from the centre, whereas federal government rebuts the charge. Who stands to gain from such blame-game? Certainly terrorists.

Pakistan is at the crossroads of its destiny. For over six decades, the profligacy of the rulers and politics of power and pelf have brought the country to brink of economic collapse. There is a perception that ours is a degenerated society where more or less all institutions, parties, groups and individuals are impacted. And media men, writers, poets and intellectuals are no exception. Some pseudo-intellectuals, columnists and writers have the habit of criticizing the government and its institutions such as military and the ISI. Look at the anchor persons; invariably all of them pitch one political party against another and one institution of state against another. They should act responsibly, and stop playing into the hands of enemies’ agents. There is a perception that the CIA, apart from penetrating into militants’ networks is also investing on some media men to bring Pakistani military and its premier agency into disrepute. They should understand that if any harm is caused to Pakistan, we all stand to suffer immensely.

—The writer is Lahore-based senior journalist.
 
I guess we dont need no Govt or elections...we need just freedom....from West and thats all....Any body, institution or person trying to enforce western laws or rules on us is a traitor ...and should be kicked out of the Muslim world to their Goraz masters (West)as a gift to serve them there.....:woot::cheesy:
 
PPP and PML-N politicians will be the slime ball politicians that they have always been.

Pakistanis will have no one but themselves to blame if either one of these two parties gains power in the next elections.

they are likely to gain power in the next elections as well... however now its difficult for the military establishment to decide who is to become their puppets ! they tried out Peer of Pagaru, failed, tried IK, failed, lets see who they can get to work for them.
 
Stop maligning the military

By Mohammad Jamil

The legal battle over the double murder committed by American national Raymond Davis is over, as the heirs of the two murdered Pakistanis have accepted Diyat, which is in accordance with the law of the land and Islamic injunctions. However, some political and religious leaders and media men question the haste in Davis’ release after settlement between the heirs of Fahim and Faizan and Raymond Davis.


Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly and PML-N leader formally declared that the military and the ISI played the main role in getting the release of Raymond Davis. Some irresponsible media men also share similar views without verifying from the legal heirs of the Faizan and Fahim, who reportedly received Rs. 200 million as blood money. After release of Raymond Davis, Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah had categorically stated that once Raymond was released by the Sessions Court, the Punjab government had no option but to set him free. It is unfortunate that the politicians are not willing to take ownership of their decisions.

Since the day Raymond Davis was arrested, the PPP and the PML-N had stated that they would accept court’s decision because the courts are independent. In a petition about Raymond Davis’ immunity, Lahore High Court had also declared that the matter of immunity would be decided by the trial court. PML-N spokesman Pervez Rashid while appearing on various TV channels accused the military of pressurizing the legal heirs of Faizan and Fahim into accepting the blood money. All politicians, analysts and panelists should be honest in giving their opinion and comments. They should realize that the personnel of the law enforcing agencies have given tremendous sacrifices and have lost more than 2000 personnel. How could they forget that the present military top brass had more than once refused to buckle under American pressure? Military had taken exception to the language used in the Kerry-Lugar Bill and had taken the position that Americans must respect Pakistanis. On the question of visas also, the military were averse to issuance of visas by Pakistan embassy in Washington without proper verification.

They should compare the present military top brass with the previous one, when on a telephone call, the government used to hand over any wanted person to the US. But now despite the tremendous pressure, Raymond Davis case was heard for at least 45 days. This case got wide projection at international level to the extent that US President Barrack Obama called for his release and US Senator John Kerry undertook a visit to Pakistan, while contacts at the highest level continued day in day out with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Yet the case has been decided in accordance with Pakistani law; Americans accepted that Raymond had no diplomatic immunity and expressed their regrets over the loss of four lives. It is true that there is a lot of hatred against America for its past shenanigans and now for continuing drone attacks, which has been condemned by the Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and COAS General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani in the strongest terms, stating that these attacks are unjustifiable and intolerable. Earlier, military had resisted the efforts to place the ISI under interior ministry, as desired by the government and the US.

As regards Raymond Davis’ release, legal fraternity seems divided. Some question the haste in which Raymond Davis has been released. But there is another view. Former Lahore High Court chief justice Dr Javed Iqbal and former judges Dr Khalid Ranjha and Nazir Ahmad Ghazi said that law provides for Diyat and the court has to accept it if both parties reach an agreement un Diyat law. Advocate Asad Manzoor Butt, who earlier represented the victims throughout the trial, said the jail authorities did not allow him to enter the courtroom and he was kept in ‘detention’ for four hours till the proceedings were over. He did not believe that his clients agreed to Diyat of their free will and was mulling the option to lead his ‘detention’ matter to the court of law. But again this is travesty of the truth because legal heirs had cancelled his power of attorney/wakatnama and issued a new one in favour of another lawyer who prepared all the documentation. Our media men cry hoarse that why the government had kept the matter so confidential and why the people were not informed about the agreement beforehand. But the matter of Diyat was the matter between the two parties, and they had no right to question them.

Former foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has said that the release of Davis under the Diyat Law has vindicated the stand he and the Foreign Ministry had taken regarding his immunity. In an interview with a private TV channel on the release of the American, the former foreign minister said the nation must be taken into confidence about the circumstances that led to the release of the CIA spy. He however said it was the right of the legal heirs of the affected families to voluntarily pardon Davis, accept Diyat to pardon him or pursue the case to get him punished. Our media and politicians must be careful not to show to the world that they are divided. The US and the West have all along been accusing Pakistan of playing a double game and supporting and ensconcing the terrorists, which is travesty of the truth, as military could not arm the militants to get killed. It has to be said that thousands of military personnel and members of other law enforcing agencies have been martyred in the war on terror.

The nation was still grieving the terrible slaughters of Hangu and Bara that terrorists struck Nowshera recently when the monsters took 11 innocent lives, including two children’s, and gored another 25 with the blast of a time-bomb they had planted in the mosque of Akhwand Punjo Baba’s shrine. About thirty people were killed and more than 150 injured in a failed attack on the offices of the ISI in Faisalabad. The bomb was planted in a car that went off near the CNG station located near a ticketing office of the Pakistan International Airlines and also a regional office of the ISI. Indeed, there is need for a national strategy with built-in mechanism, and collaboration between intelligence agencies and security apparatuses of the Centre and the provinces at various levels is imperative. Instead of taking the terrorists head on, centre and provincial governments blame each other; Punjab provincial government complains that it is not getting the information from the centre, whereas federal government rebuts the charge. Who stands to gain from such blame-game? Certainly terrorists.

Pakistan is at the crossroads of its destiny. For over six decades, the profligacy of the rulers and politics of power and pelf have brought the country to brink of economic collapse. There is a perception that ours is a degenerated society where more or less all institutions, parties, groups and individuals are impacted. And media men, writers, poets and intellectuals are no exception. Some pseudo-intellectuals, columnists and writers have the habit of criticizing the government and its institutions such as military and the ISI. Look at the anchor persons; invariably all of them pitch one political party against another and one institution of state against another. They should act responsibly, and stop playing into the hands of enemies’ agents. There is a perception that the CIA, apart from penetrating into militants’ networks is also investing on some media men to bring Pakistani military and its premier agency into disrepute. They should understand that if any harm is caused to Pakistan, we all stand to suffer immensely.

—The writer is Lahore-based senior journalist.

Bro. we r gonna suffer ..is no question about that ...cuz we r hypocrites in ourselves, ....we got no moral character and dignity.....Allah SBWT curse is gonna fall on us very soon unless we really do Taubah for our sins....:cry:
 
now its difficult for the military establishment to decide who is to become their puppets ! they tried out Peer of Pagaru, failed, tried IK, failed, lets see who they can get to work for them.

Perhaps their friends in far away places can help the army.
 
they are likely to gain power in the next elections as well... however now its difficult for the military establishment to decide who is to become their puppets ! they tried out Peer of Pagaru, failed, tried IK, failed, lets see who they can get to work for them.
If the people of Pakistan are so disgusted with the current state of affairs, why do they not start grass roots political movements as alternatives in the next elections?

Why simply argue that the Army is trying to 'pick puppets'? The last elections were free and fair. The Army did not distribute seats to the PPP and PML-N, the people voted them in. The people can choose to vote them out.

Why did Pir Pagara 'fail'? Why are Pakistanis not willing to give other politicians and parties a chance to govern if they are so disgusted by the actions of the PPP and PML-N? Whose fault is it that there is no viable third option to the PPP and PML-N?[
 
Our politicians are spineless because of marshal laws they can't stand local pressure how can they defend nation at international level.:P
 
Our politicians are spineless because of marshal laws they can't stand local pressure how can they defend nation at international level.:P

Kick them out then, and elect those like Shah Mehmood Qureshi who took principled positions.

Blaming the military for this fiasco is simply shifting the blame and allowing the politicians to get away with being spineless and not hold them accountable. They are elected to represent Pakistanis and Pakistanis must first and foremost ask them the question of what happened. If it turns out that the Army forced them to release Davis (Which is obviously not the case here) then we can direct our ire at the Army.
 
We not gonna let politicians to run away ...Insha-Allah we gonna take revenge from everybody who is a hypocrite or act like that.
no matter who...
cuz there is no time left even to repent cuz we r deeply sorrounded by the enemies from all sides internally and externally....the end game looks terrible...:eek:
May Allah SBWT help us in this hour of need...cuz we r blind and deaf....:cry:
 
If the people of Pakistan are so disgusted with the current state of affairs, why do they not start grass roots political movements as alternatives in the next elections?
neither we have the luxury and neither we have the education enough that people can differentiate among right or wrong.
And this is why democratic concept of England is an epic fail in Pakistan.
As a result corrupt people got elected and clean people ousted.

Why simply argue that the Army is trying to 'pick puppets'? The last elections were free and fair. The Army did not distribute seats to the PPP and PML-N, the people voted them in. The people can choose to vote them out.
It was clearly mukhtaran mai, media, mullah and liers who build the hype...
We can say voting was fare.

Why did Pir Pagara 'fail'? Why are Pakistanis not willing to give other politicians and parties a chance to govern if they are so disgusted by the actions of the PPP and PML-N? Whose fault is it that there is no viable third option to the PPP and PML-N?
excluding the corrupt no one votes for those parties... to build third viable option is the job of responsible media.
media only give coverage to 2 parties.
 
Why shouldn't the army be maligned?! They have continued to meddle in our internal affairs since the beginning, the Generals who have lead the army have all been western stooges and until Pakistani public demand change it will continue to remain so. Like Agnostic Muslim said it's the citizens of Pakistan who should share the brunt of the responsibility as they are the ones who elect these people into power sadly the Pakistani public vote for reasons that will benefit themselves along the lines of their ethnicity or the province in which they represent rather than for the good of the country.
 
then you say why I say outsiders should not speak about problems PAKistanies face...

but since I agree that everyone has the right to speak no matter what, I should let go then...

If the people of Pakistan are so disgusted with the current state of affairs, why do they not start grass roots political movements as alternatives in the next elections?

Why simply argue that the Army is trying to 'pick puppets'? The last elections were free and fair. The Army did not distribute seats to the PPP and PML-N, the people voted them in. The people can choose to vote them out.

Why did Pir Pagara 'fail'? Why are Pakistanis not willing to give other politicians and parties a chance to govern if they are so disgusted by the actions of the PPP and PML-N? Whose fault is it that there is no viable third option to the PPP and PML-N?[
 
then you say why I say outsiders should not speak about problems PAKistanies face...

but since I agree that everyone has the right to speak no matter what, I should let go then...
Do you have answers to my questions?

Why not offer your own thoughts and provide an opportunity for others to learn from your experiences and views, and critique them if necessary.
 

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