Stop Blaming India for Quetta Attack or Any Other Terror Attack

[ISI-1]

Blaming India cant be a wishful thinking which u can turn on or off.
You are absolutely free to blame India if you have evidence, enough evidence & concrete evidence which can stand in court of law after formal & detailed investigation, that's simply your logic bro.

***Be off with you my Zionist Hindu Indian.***We don't your comments. Dastardly Zionist Hindus always accuse and point the finger at Pakistan for any occurances in al Hind, and it goes without saying that Zionist Hindu criminals are behind this cowardly barbaric act in Quetta.

 

[JattPanjabi]

We are actually doing very good compared to our neighbors. Our social social fabric is intact in spite of numerous problems, which is very important for the development of our country as we are a very diverse country
Just give it time, our country will not only develop materially and monetarily but intellectually, which I believe is the ultimate development, as well.

If by neighbors, you mean Nepal, Pakistan, Bhutan then yes but when compared with China no. As for social fabric, it is subjective. You've had the whole insurgency movement in the Punjab, trouble in Assam, Kashmir etc. With the BJP government, anybody who is not an upper class Hindu from Delhi feels threatened. There is no common political ideology in India, now that the BJP is in power doing it's Hindutva thing, then the Congress will come back and spend years undoing everything. It's a big circle of nothingness. People need to realize that differences need to be celebrated and not assimilated. A Punjabi Sikh has nothing in common with a Hindu from Chennai but the BJP/RSS cannot accept that and try their best to wipe out Sikh religion and culture in order to create a view of Akhand Bharat. As for being threatened by ISIS, well there is no reason that a divided India cannot get along and unite to fight evil just like NATO. I'm not going to change your mind with a few sentences on this forum but thank you for the civil discussion.

Yes they will BUT only when the World comes to an END

Don't be so certain, my fiesty keyboard warrior friend. Every tyrant has its day before collapsing into nothingness.

Ok whatever makes you happy ;

By the way we are the Fourth STRONGEST country on the planet

That is a REALITY

Based on what metric? Total strength of the Army? Duh, you mean the second most populous country in the world has the fourth biggest army? What percentage of the equipment is manufactured locally? What percentage of patents in the world are filed by Indians relative to its population? What percentage of Olympic medals are won? What percentage of the world's poorest and hungriest reside there? Please spare me the anatomy measuring contest.

 

[Signalian]

Its an established fact that india is Pakistan's enemy. Its also established that LEJ or ISIS will do no good to Pakistan and Pakistanis.There are loop holes that need to be mended in our security corridors. Enemy will just take advantage of such loop holes and damage us.

we already know who the enemy is but who will mend the different problems of security.

 

[ManavKalia]

You can say whatever shit you want to in UN without any proof. The thing is all this UN thingy is useless and even if we have mentioned Kal Bhushan in UN speech nothing would have changed.

Then why do you keep mentioning Kashmir in the U.N. if the U.N. is so useless?

 

[JattPanjabi]

Then why do you keep mentioning Kashmir in the U.N. if the U.N. is so useless?

The UN is useless, however there is no other alternative. This also means that Pak's Kashmir strategy is useless, to the plight of the poor Kashmiris.

 

[Tom M]

The country which invented suicide bomb blasts in world & first introduced them in Sri Lanka through its proxy LTTE, wants the world to believe that Pakistan is an epic center of terrorism is rather hilarious. Fu*k the hypocrites.

Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but it was not India, rather Japan who invented suicide attacks that too on a very desperate and large scale.

Ever heard of Kamikaze.

 

[ManavKalia]

The UN is useless, however there is no other alternative. This also means that Pak's Kashmir strategy is useless, to the plight of the poor Kashmiris.

Pakistan's Kashmir strategy was always flawed because they simply didn't have any viable options, that are listed below.

Covert war. It seems to be backfiring on them.

Overt war. They have already tried 3-4 times without any success.

Diplomatic talks. They have never yielded any results for them.

International support. No western nation will support Wahabbi insurgency, even their biggest ally China has repeatedly told them to find a peaceful resolution via dialogue.

The U.N. speeches. Well the U.N. is anyways a generally impotent mechanism and the consensus over there is again that it is internal dispute between two nations to be resolved peacefully only thru bilateral dialogue.

Kashmiris are caught between 3 nuclear powers, India, Pakistan and China. They don't have any say in the matter. This is the harsh reality of geopolitics and their plight. Sooner they come to terms with it, better it is going to be for them.

 

[Tom M]

If by neighbors, you mean Nepal, Pakistan, Bhutan then yes but when compared with China no. As for social fabric, it is subjective. You've had the whole insurgency movement in the Punjab, trouble in Assam, Kashmir etc. With the BJP government, anybody who is not an upper class Hindu from Delhi feels threatened. There is no common political ideology in India, now that the BJP is in power doing it's Hindutva thing, then the Congress will come back and spend years undoing everything. It's a big circle of nothingness. People need to realize that differences need to be celebrated and not assimilated. A Punjabi Sikh has nothing in common with a Hindu from Chennai but the BJP/RSS cannot accept that and try their best to wipe out Sikh religion and culture in order to create a view of Akhand Bharat. As for being threatened by ISIS, well there is no reason that a divided India cannot get along and unite to fight evil just like NATO. I'm not going to change your mind with a few sentences on this forum but thank you for the civil discussion.



Don't be so certain, my fiesty keyboard warrior friend. Every tyrant has its day before collapsing into nothingness.



Based on what metric? Total strength of the Army? Duh, you mean the second most populous country in the world has the fourth biggest army? What percentage of the equipment is manufactured locally? What percentage of patents in the world are filed by Indians relative to its population? What percentage of Olympic medals are won? What percentage of the world's poorest and hungriest reside there? Please spare me the anatomy measuring contest.

I am rally curious to know which part of Punjab you represent ?? And I'm pretty sure it not the Indian state of Punjab.

 

[JattPanjabi]

I am rally curious to know which part of Punjab you represent ?? And I'm pretty sure it not the Indian state of Punjab.

I don't represent anybody, I was born in Indian Punjab yes

 

[Tom M]

I don't represent anybody, I was born in Indian Punjab yes

But you don't know the present situation of Punjab it seems. I agree that their was a Sikh insurgency back in late 80 to early 90's. The situation on ground had changed drastically since then. But I guess living far away from Punjab, you are unaware of realities.

 

[JattPanjabi]

But you don't know the present situation of Punjab it seems. I agree that their was a Sikh insurgency back in late 80 to early 90's. The situation on ground had changed drastically since then. But I guess living far away from Punjab, you are unaware of realities.

I'm aware of the current situation. I know that there is no Sikh insurgency now and neither do I support a separate state on religious grounds. I support it on political grounds since I am a Libertarian (supporter of small government, complete personal freedom etc). Anyway in terms of Punjab, there is no Sikh insurgency but there is drug nexus controlled by Badal government, widespread unemployment etc. If Punjab were a separate democratic state, it could become developed faster without the burden of the rest of India dragging it down. Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims of Punjab get along well together. Same for Bihar, UP etc..

 

[sady]

and when the lies run supreme
Coin of state nothing more,
but treachery and deceit
When the the echelons of high and mighty
remain pompous and oblivious
to the death and disease,beneath
Laughter echoes amidst
these brethern of fortune,
while a mother mourns her babe,
not far away,lost to urban decay.
I sharpen my ears
to peculiar sounds,
things I wish to hear
A grinding stone,
A burning furnace,
A clanker of metal,
and whispers
from few rebellious minds.
Disappointed I move away,
for the fire that burns the wicked,
the hand that grabs the corrupt,
the craddle that rocks the just,
remains extinct,
in this city of lust
this land of impure...

 

[Tom M]

I'm aware of the current situation. I know that there is no Sikh insurgency now and neither do I support a separate state on religious grounds. I support it on political grounds since I am a Libertarian (supporter of small government, complete personal freedom etc). Anyway in terms of Punjab, there is no Sikh insurgency but there is drug nexus controlled by Badal government, widespread unemployment etc. If Punjab were a separate democratic state, it could become developed faster without the burden of the rest of India dragging it down. Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims of Punjab get along well together. Same for Bihar, UP etc..

Well we can't try and see whether these states will do better independently or as Indian states. But there are couple of living examples ( Pakistan & Bangladesh). Sincerely do you think they are doing better ??

 

[JattPanjabi]

Well we can't try and see whether these states will do better independently or as Indian states. But there are couple of living examples ( Pakistan & Bangladesh). Sincerely do you think they are doing better ??

They were until religion became a state policy, which is not what I'm advocating for. Also, Pakistan has a big enemy in the form of India and has concentrated a lot of resources into fighting that enemy. In my vision, the independent states establish a loosely federated union like the European Union and work together for mutual prosperity. There is no conflict because the interests of minorities like Kashmiris/Sikhs/Tribals are protected. Win/win for everybody.

 

[Tom M]

They were until religion became a state policy, which is not what I'm advocating for. Also, Pakistan has a big enemy in the form of India and has concentrated a lot of resources into fighting that enemy. In my vision, the independent states establish a loosely federated union like the European Union and work together for mutual prosperity. There is no conflict because the interests of minorities like Kashmiris/Sikhs/Tribals are protected. Win/win for everybody.

And so that the giants like China, Pakistan and even Bangladesh, Sri-lanka etc. can easily bully each small independent states right ??

No mate we are better off together rather a loose federation as in your dreams.

Hope, you might have hears " Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."