Step Son of Bharat Mata.

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Step Son of Bharat Mata.


@Icarus @Spring Onion

We are truly sorry for the suffering , but we cant turn back clock make it change.

India is strange country, there are many religions, caste , creed etc..each has its own issues with government or society , each wants its own attention.But trust me whatever problem we have faced or will face will not change one thing INDIA STANDS UNITED.

I'm Proud that Sikhs are part of India , they are one of the most respected community in this New India.

I'm sure my rant wont have effect on you, but seeking separate country will not go anywhere. It would cause more harm to you.

 

[Dhara]

"Hindu" version of Abu Gharaib awaits you, @Dhara.

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but, you're probably either a Pakistani, or an Indian commie/leftist troll so you'll probably be ok.

@The Eagle @Icarus

 

[Crixus]

Sir I can never stand with those who did wrong ...if something wron happen with you then how can I say it never happened .... alot of innocent Sikhs were killed in Delhi , we are ashamed of it , kids lost their father , ladies lost their husbands , sisters lost their brothers ...and if you are thinking all Hindus support that madness then I dont think its wise thinking .

Again I am saying 1984 riots were , stigma on India

And please I was kid when the lalru massacre(http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...-punjab-and-haryana-mercilessly/1/337293.html) happened so , Hindus were also killed after 1984 ....
hope you understand both communities paid the price for the decision by one PM and her son , RG was not even worth cabinet minister , LTTE problem and Sikh millitancy were ther result of their bad policies

If you read full thread there are posts by me.


Thank you for the nice words.


I already request moderators to add Khalistan flag.

Buddy dont do that Sikhs were killed like animals in 1984 and their anger is justified

"Hindu" version of Abu Gharaib awaits you, @Dhara.

View attachment 401752

but, you're probably either a Pakistani, or an Indian commie/leftist troll so you'll probably be ok.

 

[Dhara]

Sir I can never stand with those who did wrong ...if something wron happen with you then how can I say it never happened .... alot of innocent Sikhs were killed in Delhi , we are ashamed of it , kids lost their father , ladies lost their husbands , sisters lost their brothers ...and if you are thinking all Hindus support that madness then I dont think its wise thinking .

Again I am saying 1984 riots were , stigma on India

And please I was kid when the lalru massacre(http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...-punjab-and-haryana-mercilessly/1/337293.html) happened so , Hindus were also killed after 1984 ....
hope you understand both communities paid the price for the decision by one PM and her son , RG was not even worth cabinet minister , LTTE problem and Sikh millitancy were ther result of their bad policies


Buddy dont do that Sikhs were killed like animals in 1984 and their anger is justified

I respect your opinion but same time I hold my ground as well, they people most suffered were / are Sikhs.

 

[Crixus]

Sikhs are suffering is hard to believe but yes they were suffered more ... I am open to discuss the current condition of Sikhs and how they are oppressed .... I really want to understand your points
But I agree they suffered a lot in 1984

I respect your opinion but same time I hold my ground as well, they people most suffered were / are Sikhs.

 

[Slav Defence]

This is the short version of My Book which I am writing for Pakistani Defence Forum.
I request Moderators to keep this thread read only.

Step Son of Bharat Mata.

1984, Sikh Light Infantry (3rd Battalion).
ex.Major Dhara
As a newly promoted Major I am enjoying newly granted privileges but suddenly one morning changed everything.

31st October 1984 09:20 am morning Mrs. Gandhi was assassinated by her own Sikh guards, news spread like a fire in the jungle and within minutes we (Sikhs) the most loyal and brave sons of Bharat Mata learned the hard fact that in fact we are step sons. We were ordered to submit our arms and stay in barracks, relieved from all type of duties with immediate effect. In other words we were imprisoned in our barracks and armed Hindu guards was installed on us in the name of our protection.
High rank Hindu army officers suspecting mutiny by us and decided to send Sikh officers and jawans on forced indefinite leaves until further orders, we refused in shock but have to leave the barracks when guards on our security starts killing agitated, angry Sikh officers and jawans, more than 30 officers and jawans were murdered but no one held accountable for these murders.
Like many others Sikh officers and Jawans I was too subject to forced leave but this was not the end of our troubles but just a start of our pains, Indian army thinking us traitors and same time our villagers, friends and even family looking at us with hate, anger and suspicion and because of this many officers and Jawan joined militant groups even one General Rank officers Maj. Gen Shabej Singh.

I was committed to my oath and refused to join freedom fighters and after 6 months on leave I was ordered to join my battalion back where many other Sikh officers also joined but this was our test of Desh-Bakhti like many others my C.O called me and handed our written orders which instruct me to go for some intelligence training upon further inquiry my C.O told me that after the completion of my intelligence training I have to go under cover as Punjab police officer to flush out freedom fighters from villages (flush out means fake encounter to kill even on suspicion). I refused these orders and again I was sent to leave but after 25 days police raided my village home with army personals and arrest me by labeling me as Pro-Khalistani fighter and made recovery of 12 gauge shot gun which was licensed and hardly have any usage in armed fighting against military.

A court martial was ordered but they found case against me of being a Khalistani fighter is wrong but I refused the military orders and also I have pro khalistani views so they not only stripped my rank but also awarded 1 year imprison. During my trial my father in law a serving Brigadier initially helped me and that is why they reduced my charges from armed fighter to pro-khalistani which reduces my jail term but later my father in law proved his desh-bakhti and severed all ties with me and taking my wife also along with my two sons with him and brainwashed my wife, upon my return I approach her but she refuses to come back to me and I had no choice since there were news that Police trying to book me again, my cousin got visa for Gulf and in a hurry he gave me his passport and forced me to leave for a time being. I was in no mood but my elderly parents request me to leave since police starts harassing my sisters and brother in law because they are looking for me. Since then I am out of India on a fake (my cousin’s) passport worked even as labor for construction sites, driver and other labor jobs since I have no documents with me to prove my qualification.
After many years to improve my life I traveled to Italy but again faced a hard reality that there is no job for me from there a Pakistani agent suggested me to go to Japan and this is the end because few years back my cousin died in India and I can’t renew my passport hence living here illegally hiding in a warehouse the same I am working.
I tried many time to contact my children who are in Canada but they refused to meet me since they are brainwashed by my father in law.
@Icarus @Spring Onion

A very tragic story I have read. May Allah(SWT) help you in such hard time and may you get a decent Job, your children and your spouse back OR May Allah(SWT) grant you a better family than this.May you are guided towards the straight part and attain eternal peace in this world and hereafter.
I least discuss about Indian aggression against khalistani movement.It was one of the most tragic events in the history of subcontinent.
You are adopting right approach by writing a book but have you wondered of outcomes in case if you will be selling those?Next, try to get a job and collect funds somehow.Once you will have funds, you will be able to do things.I am giving you a link of useful website, you can start a campaign and start collecting funds:

https://www.fundme.com/en

Try to contact any other person close to your cousin and ask him to help you somehow with the passport renewal.
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Kind Regards

 

[The Eagle]

What did they saw (document) to authenticate your credentials as you yourself said that you don't have documents with you and are living on a fake passport with expired visa.

Let the Forum Admin deal with such business.

Thanks.

 

[Dhara]

A very tragic story I have read. May Allah(SWT) help you in such hard time and may you get a decent Job, your children and your spouse back OR May Allah(SWT) grant you a better family then this.May you are guided towards the straight part and attain eternal peace in this world and hereafter.
I least discuss about Indian aggression against khalistani movement.It was one of the most tragic events in the history of subcontinent.
You are adopting right approach by writing a book but have you wondered of outcomes in case if you will be selling those?Next, try to get a job and collect funds somehow.Once you will have funds, you will be able to do things.I am giving you a link of useful website, you can start a campaign and start collecting funds:

https://www.fundme.com/en

Try to contact any other person close to your cousin and ask him to help you somehow with the passport renewal.

Kind Regards

I am quite old Sir in 60s never wanted another family.
I am writing a book about my life and freedom struggle may Wah e Guru di mayr howay I will publish it, at on this forum, what i have written here is just a work of single day just imagine the whole incidents with details.
I never ask any body for help and never would be you may call it ego but I am proud of it.
I will do it myself. Just keep check on Sanghi kids who attacked and attacking my by calling me false flag.

@Spring Onion
Dear Daughter I am missing your comments here, You may publish this without my approval.

Soon I will post detailed version of events.

 

[rott]

This is the short version of My Book which I am writing for Pakistani Defence Forum.
I request Moderators to keep this thread read only.

Step Son of Bharat Mata.

1984, Sikh Light Infantry (3rd Battalion).
ex.Major Dhara
As a newly promoted Major I am enjoying newly granted privileges but suddenly one morning changed everything.

31st October 1984 09:20 am morning Mrs. Gandhi was assassinated by her own Sikh guards, news spread like a fire in the jungle and within minutes we (Sikhs) the most loyal and brave sons of Bharat Mata learned the hard fact that in fact we are step sons. We were ordered to submit our arms and stay in barracks, relieved from all type of duties with immediate effect. In other words we were imprisoned in our barracks and armed Hindu guards was installed on us in the name of our protection.
High rank Hindu army officers suspecting mutiny by us and decided to send Sikh officers and jawans on forced indefinite leaves until further orders, we refused in shock but have to leave the barracks when guards on our security starts killing agitated, angry Sikh officers and jawans, more than 30 officers and jawans were murdered but no one held accountable for these murders.
Like many others Sikh officers and Jawans I was too subject to forced leave but this was not the end of our troubles but just a start of our pains, Indian army thinking us traitors and same time our villagers, friends and even family looking at us with hate, anger and suspicion and because of this many officers and Jawan joined militant groups even one General Rank officers Maj. Gen Shabej Singh.

I was committed to my oath and refused to join freedom fighters and after 6 months on leave I was ordered to join my battalion back where many other Sikh officers also joined but this was our test of Desh-Bakhti like many others my C.O called me and handed our written orders which instruct me to go for some intelligence training upon further inquiry my C.O told me that after the completion of my intelligence training I have to go under cover as Punjab police officer to flush out freedom fighters from villages (flush out means fake encounter to kill even on suspicion). I refused these orders and again I was sent to leave but after 25 days police raided my village home with army personals and arrest me by labeling me as Pro-Khalistani fighter and made recovery of 12 gauge shot gun which was licensed and hardly have any usage in armed fighting against military.

A court martial was ordered but they found case against me of being a Khalistani fighter is wrong but I refused the military orders and also I have pro khalistani views so they not only stripped my rank but also awarded 1 year imprison. During my trial my father in law a serving Brigadier initially helped me and that is why they reduced my charges from armed fighter to pro-khalistani which reduces my jail term but later my father in law proved his desh-bakhti and severed all ties with me and taking my wife also along with my two sons with him and brainwashed my wife, upon my return I approach her but she refuses to come back to me and I had no choice since there were news that Police trying to book me again, my cousin got visa for Gulf and in a hurry he gave me his passport and forced me to leave for a time being. I was in no mood but my elderly parents request me to leave since police starts harassing my sisters and brother in law because they are looking for me. Since then I am out of India on a fake (my cousin’s) passport worked even as labor for construction sites, driver and other labor jobs since I have no documents with me to prove my qualification.
After many years to improve my life I traveled to Italy but again faced a hard reality that there is no job for me from there a Pakistani agent suggested me to go to Japan and this is the end because few years back my cousin died in India and I can’t renew my passport hence living here illegally hiding in a warehouse the same I am working.
I tried many time to contact my children who are in Canada but they refused to meet me since they are brainwashed by my father in law.

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@waz bro, do take care of those Indian trolls especially on this thread. Thanks!

 

[Peshwa]

@Dhara
Your story is sad, and I do feel bad for what happened to you and as a result to your family.
But I'm sad about one thing....is that you fail to see the similarities that exist between you/Khalistanis and the very people who committed the atrocities against you and Sikhs.
Let me explain:

You have taken up the Khalistani ideology and are now actively working against the interest of your motherland because some people/groups/politicians at that point in time ('84) wronged you and your community. There is no excuse for it. But India is NOT only those groups..There are 1.3 Billion people in India and many of them had nothing to do with Operation Bluestar nor the pogroms that followed. But you choose to take your anger against the entire nation instead of bringing those culprits to justice who actually committed the crime by working with our enemies and trying to break our nation.

Similarly, those people who instigated and massacred Sikhs blamed the entire Sikh community for the actions of a few (Bindhrawale, Khalistanis, IG's assasins) and went on a rampage without asking questions. Are they justified then in their thought and actions? Because you certainly seem to justify your actions on the same pretext.

So how are you any different from them? Do you think justice will be served by punishing India and Indians or by punishing the culprits?

I as an Indian will always sympathize with you as a human, spiritual brother (Sikh) and by your own admission as
a former Indian, but you lose all sympathy from me when you blame me for the actions of a few and try to break and destroy the place of my birth!

You will have my support and many like me if you move back to India and fight the system and get those bastards that wronged the Sikh community! But talk about breaking India and unfortunately you will find yourself relegated and isolated, quite like the position you are in. Hope you understand that your exile is self imposed...You have the option of giving up the Khalistani ideology and punishing the culprits with the rest of us Indians by your side.
Give this a thought...

 

[Slav Defence]

I am quite old Sir in 60s never wanted another family.
I am writing a book about my life and freedom struggle may Wah e Guru di mayr howay I will publish it, at on this forum, what i have written here is just a work of single day just imagine the whole incidents with details.
I never ask any body for help and never would be you may call it ego but I am proud of it.
I will do it myself. Just keep check on Sanghi kids who attacked and attacking my by calling me false flag.

@Spring Onion
Dear Daughter I am missing your comments here, You may publish this without my approval.

Soon I will post detailed version of events.

I will make sure that no one attempts to troll you.You are most welcome to write down a series of your memoirs and I will simply feature it.I can only pray for you and remember that fate of any nation does not remain constant.It keeps changing.Sometime it take few years and sometime it takes centuries.No one owns any piece of land.It's Allah's will who choose for nations to become inhabitant in whatever place He desires.

Change is a part of nature.

There is entire history the earth speaks itself.Once, the earth itself formed from gas and dust and starts to set up layers.Then different species had begun to evolve.The most powerful species such as dinosaurs got extinct and so nature progressed.From random atoms to DNA, from DNA to RNA, From RNA to proteins and cells and muscles and unicellular organisms and then multi-cellular then progressive adaptation till man was introduced.

That is just the changes done by nature.After man's arrival, different nations were formed that kept changing places.There was a time when Egypt was super power and had enslaved Israelis then Pharaoh's nation got extinct, then move progressively and you will see changes.

See, how God shared his memoir:

Ta, Seen, Meem. These are the verses of the clear Book.
We recite to you from the news of Moses and Pharaoh in truth for a people who believe.
Indeed, Pharaoh exalted himself in the land and made its people into factions, oppressing a sector among them, slaughtering their [newborn] sons and keeping their females alive. Indeed, he was of the corrupters.
And We wanted to confer favor upon those who were oppressed in the land and make them leaders and make them inheritors
And establish them in the land and show Pharaoh and [his minister] Haman and their soldiers through them that which they had feared.
(Surah Qasas)
Nations like Iran and Rome got defeat from weak Arabs that were Russians and Americans of their time.Their crowns and silk cloaks and jewels were under the feat of Arabs.Then Arab invasion to India and rule for centuries, then british raj then independence-there will be surely plans for Sikhs, keralities, kashmiris,hindus and other muslims in this newly shaped sub-continent that is divided into Pakistan and India.No one can predict what nations are heading towards, no one can predict any nation's fate.Strong nations gets deserted sometimes from weakest ones and weakest become strong and get freedom from slavery.No one knows what God is planning.

regards

 

[Dhara]

I will make sure that no one attempts to troll you.You are most welcome to write down a series of your memoirs and I will simply feature it.I can only pray for you and remember that fate of any nation does not remain constant.It keeps changing.Sometime it take few years and sometime it takes centuries.No one owns any piece of land.It's Allah's will who choose for nations to become inhabitant in whatever place He desires.

Change is a part of nature.

There is entire history the earth speaks itself.Once, the earth itself formed from gas and dust and starts to set up layers.Then different species had begun to evolve.The most powerful species such as dinosaurs got extinct and so nature progressed.From random atoms to DNA, from DNA to RNA, From RNA to proteins and cells and muscles and unicellular organisms and then multi-cellular then progressive adaptation till man was introduced.

That is just the changes done by nature.After man's arrival, different nations were formed that kept changing places.There was a time when Egypt was super power and had enslaved Israelis then Pharaoh's nation got extinct, then move progressively and you will see changes.

See, how God shared his memoir:

Ta, Seen, Meem. These are the verses of the clear Book.
We recite to you from the news of Moses and Pharaoh in truth for a people who believe.
Indeed, Pharaoh exalted himself in the land and made its people into factions, oppressing a sector among them, slaughtering their [newborn] sons and keeping their females alive. Indeed, he was of the corrupters.
And We wanted to confer favor upon those who were oppressed in the land and make them leaders and make them inheritors
And establish them in the land and show Pharaoh and [his minister] Haman and their soldiers through them that which they had feared.
(Surah Qasas)
Nations like Iran and Rome got defeat from weak Arabs that were Russians and Americans of their time.Their crowns and silk cloaks and jewels were under the feat of Arabs.Then Arab invasion to India and rule for centuries, then british raj then independence-there will be surely plans for Sikhs, keralities, kashmiris,hindus and other muslims in this newly shaped sub-continent that is divided into Pakistan and India.No one can predict what nations are heading towards, no one can predict any nation's fate.Strong nations gets deserted sometimes from weakest ones and weakest become strong and get freedom from slavery.No one knows what God is planning.

regards

So beautiful Sir, I appreciated you and thanks for the support.

 

[Darth Vader]

@Dhara No i mean You Contact Human Rights So and Talk about Your Situation They might be able to help you because its wasnt normal circumstances

 

[Dhara]

@Dhara
Your story is sad, and I do feel bad for what happened to you and as a result to your family.
But I'm sad about one thing....is that you fail to see the similarities that exist between you/Khalistanis and the very people who committed the atrocities against you and Sikhs.
Let me explain:

You have taken up the Khalistani ideology and are now actively working against the interest of your motherland because some people/groups/politicians at that point in time ('84) wronged you and your community. There is no excuse for it. But India is NOT only those groups..There are 1.3 Billion people in India and many of them had nothing to do with Operation Bluestar nor the pogroms that followed. But you choose to take your anger against the entire nation instead of bringing those culprits to justice who actually committed the crime by working with our enemies and trying to break our nation.

Similarly, those people who instigated and massacred Sikhs blamed the entire Sikh community for the actions of a few (Bindhrawale, Khalistanis, IG's assasins) and went on a rampage without asking questions. Are they justified then in their thought and actions? Because you certainly seem to justify your actions on the same pretext.

So how are you any different from them? Do you think justice will be served by punishing India and Indians or by punishing the culprits?

I as an Indian will always sympathize with you as a human, spiritual brother (Sikh) and by your own admission as
a former Indian, but you lose all sympathy from me when you blame me for the actions of a few and try to break and destroy the place of my birth!

You will have my support and many like me if you move back to India and fight the system and get those bastards that wronged the Sikh community! But talk about breaking India and unfortunately you will find yourself relegated and isolated, quite like the position you are in. Hope you understand that your exile is self imposed...You have the option of giving up the Khalistani ideology and punishing the culprits with the rest of us Indians by your side.
Give this a thought...

You have entitled to share your piece of mind since me.

Thanks for not abusing me or labelled me false flag.

 

[Slav Defence]

Do you realize that you are supporting a criminal who is impersonating & traveling on a fake passport?

Having opposite views & opinions is one thing but supporting terrorists & criminals is different. The guy blatantly accepts traveling on a fake passport and PDF provides platform to boast about his criminal activity.

@MilSpec @nair @scorpionx
The standards of PDF has obviously gone down, but now it has hit a new low of supporting criminals. Should we wait until it leads to collecting funds for terrorist activity.

This man is trying to prove from past 60 years of his loyalty with Indian regime.He is paying price for being Indian patriot in past 60 years of his life.You should not supposed to be afraid of a 60 year old man that was accused and caught for no reason and now living a kind of isolation.
Please, let him breathe on internet atleast.

regards