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'Starving Bangladesh of beef' would cost India $5 Billion

It's legal I guess in Bengal...is it not?
If so, it can be started on a grand scale there. Startups can get started right away. Tie up with states all over India for the raw material, process and export. This will be beneficial since many states have and many more will ban cow slaughter entirely.

I can suggest a basic blueprint -
i. Collect people of the local areas and make committees.

ii. Train them to slash the throats of the cattle. It is not an easy job. The existing butchers will not be enough to meet the demand. The secular people of Bengal should volunteer to engage in reviving the economy. One cannot expect a single community to do all that, all the time.

iii. Considering the market, you may have to keep the halal certifications in mind as well. I might recommend that this be a part of the training. An average Hindu will make a mess of it. He needs to be rigorously trained to do so. Otherwise machines can be purchased for doing that automatically. It will boost the manufacturing industry there as well - especially those building stainless steel blades.

iv. Considering the general nationwide consensus and popularity of NOT having beef, the children in Bengal should also be initiated to the consumption of beef including cow meat from a tender age, lest they fall prey to the communal desires of the rest of the Indians. There can be a course on the advantages and benefits of beef over and above all other meat and even on other non meat protein substitutes, including cheaper ones. This will maximize the utilization of stray and older cattle in the State including those that are kept uselessly in temple gaushalays.

I hope you will look seriously into this matter and consider the points as mentioned without dismissing them as sarcasm of a demented sadist fascist. :D

Ignoring the 'sarcasm' parts, some of your suggestions are actually very good, :) in fact I had the same thing in mind. The smuggling will automatically stop if cattle traders find a hassle-free 'legal' option to sell their unused cattle for the meat processing industry. If I were the CM of Bengal then I would have utilized this opportunity fully to create a vibrant beef processing and export industry in Bengal to improve the state economy. However, export demands certain level of hygiene and quality standards, and fully automated meat processing units including slaughtering and skinning should be mandatory, even Bangladeshi meat processing and export industry is mostly automated. The suppliers will remain the traditional sources, primarily from the cow belt of India. :)

And about your comment on consuming beef, that's up to the people, the primary aim of the beef processing industry should be export, and we will have the ready market of export that will be vacated by Bangladesh once we stop the smuggling. Btw, we are not worried about falling prey to the communal desires of the r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶I̶n̶d̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ small minority sanghis. :)
 
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Obviously YOU ARE! Just copy and pasting a small excerpt from a Wikipedia article dated a decade ago. Is that all you could find? What you think people are so dumb as you as not to read the whole article?

Bangladesh isn't even a primarily wheat consuming nation, its a rice consumer and net exporter.

Here read a more up to date information dumb ***......

Record production and growth
2014 was a very good year for Bangladesh in terms of its agricultural output and ensuring people’s food security. Various steps taken by the government and favourable weather conditions resulted in record production of major crops and better prices for farmers. The agriculture and service sectors saw 3.35% and 5.58% growth in 2014, up from 2.4% and 5.5% respectively in 2013. Exports of agro-based products also saw a 15% growth in 2014, with earnings worth US$ 615 million. Major crops like boro, wheat, jute, potato, ginger and summer vegetables witnessed record production. Besides crops, poultry and fisheries also saw record growth with production increasing at all time highs for both. Farmers received higher prices for their produce in 2014 compared to 2013.

According to data by the Department of Agricultural Marketing (DAM), prices of major crops including Boro and Aus crops, onion, wheat, maize, jute, ginger, mustard seed and summer vegetables in 2014 were 10-15% higher compared to that in 2013. Boro sold at TK 680-800 per maund (40 kgs) in the May-June period. Farmers got TK 800-1000 per kg for onion, TK 800-900 for wheat, TK 900-1200 for jute (desi), TK 1350 for jute (tossa), TK 680-720 for Aus paddy, TK 1600-1800 for ginger etc. Production of Boro crop hit record high at 18.95 million tonnes while wheat output rose to a 11 year high at 1.302 million tonnes. Potato output was also set at a record high 8.95 million tonnes, summer vegetable production 4.0 million tonnes, jute production at 7.0 million bales, online the highest at 1.65 million tonnes and ginger at a three year record high of 72,000 tonnes.

According to Department of Fisheries (DoF), fish production reached the highest ever 3.55 million tonnes in 2014. Poultry sector production increased by nearly 15% in 2014 compared to 2013, as per data of Bangladesh Poultry Industries Coordination Committee. Better prices of crops helped boost both farm and non-farm sectors in rural areas. With the rise in purchasing power of farmers, agro-processing industries, farm equipment and inputs, housing and construction materials, mobile and electronics, clothing and private clinics have seen a boom in the outgoing year.

Exporting rice
For the first time since independence, Bangladesh became a rice exporting nation in 2014. Bangladesh has already exported 50,000 tonnes of rice to Sri Lanka. After Sri Lanka, Bangladesh is now going to export rice to India following bumper production and adequate stocks at home. India has proposed to import 30,000-40,000 tonnes of rice from Bangladesh for its north-eastern states like Tripura. India will send a delegation soon to Bangladesh to finalise the matter.

Fourth largest fish producer
According to 2014 report of the UN's Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO), Bangladesh presently stands fourth in producing sweet water fish. In 2013/14, Bangladesh government disbursed US$ 179.5 million as agricultural loans to fish farmers. From 2004 till 2014, Bangladesh's fish production increased by 53%. According to Bangladesh Statistics Bureau (BBS)'s latest economic census says that in the 2013-14 fiscal year, the country produced approximately 3.46 million tonnes of fish, of which about 2 million tonnes were farmed. With the protection of hilsa fries and other initiatives, production of the country's most popular fish hilsa has gone up from 52,000 tonnes to 350,000 tonnes.

With prices of fish remaining within the reach of the common people, there has been a 100% increased in per head consumption of fish over the past 10 years. Fish exports have gone up by 135%. In the 2013-14 fiscal Bangladesh's export earnings from frozen fish went up by 17.35% to US$ 532.1 million. FAO predicts Bangladesh will be the first of the four countries to achieve massive success in fish production by the year 2022. This is followed by Thailand, India and China. According to FAO, Bangladesh stands 25th in global standing for catching sea fish. However, after settlement of the maritime boundary issue with Myanmar and India, catching fish from the Bay of Bengal is likely to increase manifold.

Bangladesh became self reliant on food production. Gone are the days of Monga (seasonal and localised famine).On the international stage, Bangladesh is now the fourth highest paddy producing country. Persistent bumper yield of rice stopped the country from imported rice in the last five year. Hector wise production of rice wheat and maize has crossed the global average growth. Bangladesh is now an example for multiple cropping in a single land.The country stands well above its annual food grain consumption requirement of less than 30 milliontonnes. With an annual growth rate of 40.5 milliontonnes, the country crossed the global average growth.

Successful policies of 2009-13 carried on to 2014
Immediately after assuming power in 2009, the agriculture friendly Awami League government reduced the price of non-urea fertilizers to a half and on three occasions lowered its price from 70% to 78%. The genome sequence of local and toshua jute along with harmful fungus for more than five hundred crops were unfolded. High-yielding and adverse weather sustainable 145 new varieties of crops were invented. Zinc enriched rice BRRI 62 was introduced. 9.5 million farmers opened bank accounts with only TK 10 deposit. They received various financial helps through these accounts.

In a landmark feat, the present government has revamped the entire fertilizer distribution chain to ensure easy distribution to the farmers. Around 34 thousand retail fertilizer distributors were appointed. At least one distributor is available at every upazila level. Taking a giant leap forward, the government embarked on a project to provide subsidy to mechanized the farming system. Due to subsidy, process of seeds, irrigation and fertilizers kept within an affordable prize. In 2013-14, Agricultural Ministry has allocated US$ 167 million to speed up 81 development projects. A whopping US$1.54 billion was disbursed for the promotion of agriculture. Bangladesh has been a success story in developing rice verities that can offset adverse impact of climate change. To this end, as many as 81 high yield rice verities have been engineered. Of them, two are drought tolerant verities, nine can fight slat and four are flood tolerant. Bangladeshi researchers developed the first ever zinc enriched rice variety.

Around 14.5 million farmers were given agricultural input assistance cards. Government food storage capacity increased from 1.4 million to 1.9 million metric tones. To ensure food availability for the low income people, the government distributed more than 1.5 million metric tonnes of food grains under the OMS programme in five years. Additionally, 3,48,135 metric tonnes food grains were distributed to 7.7 million easy card holder families and other 71,236 metric tonnes were distributed at a low price to 4th class employees and village police. More than 5.4 million metric tonnes of food grains were distributed under various social safety net programmes like food for work, VGF and VGD.

In 2014, for meeting the demand of urea fertilizer in the country, 92% work on the project for construction of ShahjalalFertiizer factory, having a capacity of 580 thousand metric tonnes, has been completed. The prevalence of the goiter disease has been brought down to 1.60% through implementation of the iodized salt project. Bangladesh Accreditation Board had been granted full membership of the Asia Pacific Laboratory Accreditation Cooperation (APLAC).

Food grain production during 2014 has risen to more than 3.5 million metric tonnnes. A total of 976,000 metric tonnes of rice and 811,000 metric tonnes of wheat have been distributed under the public food distribution programme. The storage capacity of government warehouses has been raised to 1.95 million metric tonnes. US$ 52.7 million were spent as incentives and rehabilitation expenses for compensating losses to farmers incurred during various natural disasters.

Bangladesh has been ranked 57th in 2014 Global Hunger Index (GHI), showing improvement in hunger level along with nine other countries. According to the index, the country reduced hunger more significantly than any other South Asian countries. Over the last year, the production of rice and wheat has increased by 3 percent. In line with the National Agriculture Policy, the National Agriculture Extension Policy-2014 and National Micro-Irrigation Policy-2014 were formulated. The Awami League led government has set up first ever call centers aiming to make the cultivation related information easily accessible to the farmers. From any corner of the country, anyone can dial 16123 to get information related to agriculture round the clock.

LOL. No, it is you that still remains the dumbass. While you export a measly 40-50 K tons of rice, and mostly of that rice that you had imported previously, due to lack of storage space, you import 2.3 million tons of wheat plus another million tons of other commercial foods. Which makes you a net importer of food. Does not matter that you are a primary rice eating country considering the amount you import still exceeds the amount you export. Also does not change the fact that 75% of Bangladeshi land is degraded..

Bangladesh's food import dips by half - ANN
 
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Btw, we are not worried about falling prey to the communal desires of the r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶I̶n̶d̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ small minority sanghis.
The ideas are catchy. I suggest you teach the slashing the throats of cows in public seminars with live demonstrations. Opening the border to Bangladesh also may help. You can start from your home, with your kids, then to your relatives and so on. After a generation, butchering cows will be second nature to many and not eating cows will be anathema to most. Hindu ideas will not be able to take root.

This is important because like it or not, Hindu revivalism is a reality that can't be hidden with wishful thinking. If you wish to popularise beef consumption and export you need to suffocate the Hindu sentiment completely. May I also suggest the worship of cows for ceremonial purposes? Because that would lead to a great deal of confusion otherwise.
 
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The ideas are catchy. I suggest you teach the slashing the throats of cows in public seminars with live demonstrations. Opening the border to Bangladesh also may help. You can start from your home, with your kids, then to your relatives and so on. After a generation, butchering cows will be second nature to many and not eating cows will be anathema to most. Hindu ideas will not be able to take root.

This is important because like it or not, Hindu revivalism is a reality that can't be hidden with wishful thinking. If you wish to popularise beef consumption and export you need to suffocate the Hindu sentiment completely. May I also suggest the worship of cows for ceremonial purposes? Because that would lead to a great deal of confusion otherwise.

Nothing of that sort will be required, you missed my previous post I guess.

And it is mostly the Hindu cattle owners of the cow belt (where Sangh has most presence) who sell their bulls & bullocks for money, don't tell me that they are idiot enough to not know the purpose. It is the urban sanghis whose hearts weeps for the cattle, poor villagers understand the 'economic' part of the cattle better. You prevent them from earning those precious lumpsum, and they will show you in the elections, that's why the flow of cattle from the BJP ruled states didn't stop in so many years.

And sensitivity about cow (especially bulls & bullocks) are different among the Hindus of northern India and Hindus of East, north-east, and southern parts of India. There are differences in practices also, I can list a few of them if you want.
 
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its an emotional issue for some..logic does not work well.

Like Ram Setu. If we dredge the strait the country will earn billions in transit revenues. Instead Sanghis claim Rama built a bridge there so let it remain. Billions will end up in Sri Lanka therefore (lucky buggers)
 
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LOL. No, it is you that still remains the dumbass. While you export a measly 40-50 K tons of rice, and mostly of that rice that you had imported previously, due to lack of storage space, you import 2.3 million tons of wheat plus another million tons of other commercial foods. Which makes you a net importer of food. Does not matter that you are a primary rice eating country considering the amount you import still exceeds the amount you export. Also does not change the fact that 75% of Bangladeshi land is degraded..

Bangladesh's food import dips by half - ANN

You really are an idiot, you linked to an article showing Bangladesh food import falling! And that from years ago, did you actually read the article you linked you dumbas*? 75% degraded land, still pulling crap from your fat ***?

Can't take the fact your being made to look the fool you are? Don't worry, you'll grow a pair some day.....LOLdumdass
 
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Nothing of that sort will be required, you missed my previous post I guess.

And it is mostly the Hindu cattle owners of the cow belt (where Sangh has most presence) who sell their bulls & bullocks for money, don't tell me that they are idiot enough to not know the purpose. It is the urban sanghis whose hearts weeps for the cattle, poor villagers understand the 'economic' part of the cattle better. You prevent them from earning those precious lumpsum, and they will show you in the elections, that's why the flow of cattle from the BJP ruled states didn't stop in so many years.

And sensitivity about cow (especially bulls & bullocks) are different among the Hindus of northern India and Hindus of East, north-east, and southern parts of India. There are differences in practices also, I can list a few of them if you want.
Why not will they be required? :( My hard work gone to waste. Which point do you find issue with? :cry:

You are talking to a villager who has now settled in a city but still continues to visit the rural areas. When it comes to travelling the length and breadth of this nation - I have done it better than most urban cool dudes. :D
We leave the cows to retire to themselves. They are not sold off to abattoirs once they have served us. Can't say about Bengal though. :) And I am not interested in Bulls and Bullocks, we only had one Bull once, and that too long back. In Mattan, locally produced milk and ghee is famous... in Kashmir at least. And there are no cattle mafia that steals our cattle to send them to Bengal.

I have seen the same practise in Maharashtra, Karnataka, Rajasthan, Haryana, Madhya Pradesh and Punjab. Cattle mafia is there and there are occurrences of theft - but no farmer sells their old cows to slaughter houses. Bulls and bullocks are. Again, can't say about Bengal.
 
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Like Ram Setu. If we dredge the strait the country will earn billions in transit revenues. Instead Sanghis claim Rama built a bridge there so let it remain. Billions will end up in Sri Lanka therefore (lucky buggers)

I didn't know that, any reference about it?
 
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Like Ram Setu. If we dredge the strait the country will earn billions in transit revenues. Instead Sanghis claim Rama built a bridge there so let it remain. Billions will end up in Sri Lanka therefore (lucky buggers)
Confiscation of all remaining private temple property can also earn a lot. Temple land is also lying idle and used for stupid pagan festivals.
Even selling off the temple artifacts can earn millions. Especially if we auction them.

Imagine selling off the entire Ajanta Ellora caves! :enjoy: Trillions! :enjoy:

Who knows, they can be used to plant churches to spread the message of the Gospel. :D
 
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Why not will they be required? :( My hard work gone to waste. Which point do you find issue with? :cry:

You are talking to a villager who has now settled in a city but still continues to visit the rural areas. When it comes to travelling the length and breadth of this nation - I have done it better than most urban cool dudes. :D
We leave the cows to retire to themselves. They are not sold off to abattoirs once they have served us. Can't say about Bengal though. :) And I am not interested in Bulls and Bullocks, we only had one Bull once, and that too long back. In Mattan, locally produced milk and ghee is famous... in Kashmir at least. And there are no cattle mafia that steals our cattle to send them to Bengal.

I have seen the same practise in Maharashtra, Karnataka, Rajasthan, Haryana, Madhya Pradesh and Punjab. Cattle mafia is there and there are occurrences of theft - but no farmer sells their old cows to slaughter houses. Bulls and bullocks are. Again, can't say about Bengal.

That won't be required for the same reason why all the parents in Gujrat didn't buy welding kits for their children once Tata Nano moved to Gujrat. :pop:

Now, you have ignored a few points that I have already mentioned previously, I will mention them again to reply to the points you have raised.

1. Young milk-giving cows are rarely smuggled/slaughtered, and when they are smuggled, that is only for dairy purpose, they are too costly for meat business. I hope you know the price of a good quality young cow. A large majority of the smuggled cattle are only bulls & bullocks, Buffalos are not smuggled as they can be slaughtered in India. This is the reason why India is no.1 in beef export but Bangladeshi beef fetch better price in international market because they use Indian bulls & buffalos.

2. Old cows are rarely used for meat because of the poor quality of meat, and very less meat. Those who eat mutton and chicken would tell you that old goats or chickens also don't taste good, nobody buys it.

3. Bengal cows and bulls/bullocks are smaller and in low demand, almost all the cattle that cross the Bangladesh border are bigger species from the states like Hariyana, Punjabi, MP, etc. local villagers call them Hariyana bulls or Jersi bulls (Balad in Bengali).

4. Since you only had one Bull once, and that too long back, and since this is the practice everywhere, ever wondered what happens to the bulls & bullocks who are supposed to be 50% of the cattle population? Those bulls cross the border in mutual understanding and trade between the cattle owners and traders. Millions of cattle cross over to Bangladesh every year, a few lakhs every month, don't tell me they are all stolen cattle and there is no police action and no major public outrage about it in so many years.


Just for your information, bulls and bullocks are mostly transported on feet or packed in ordinary trucks, they are kept inside large dried ponds or open fields during the day, and pushed inside Bangladesh at night. Costlier milk-giving cows get royal treatment though, they are transported in much smaller numbers in large containers with grass flooring, water, food etc., they go as far as Malaysia also for dairy business. BSF fires at the smugglers mostly due to miscommunication, if there is a sudden visit by the higher officers and the local post fails to inform the smugglers; they will fire at the smugglers to save their jobs, they will also fire if they are not paid, but that rarely happens.
 
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Confiscation of all remaining private temple property can also earn a lot. Temple land is also lying idle and used for stupid pagan festivals.
Even selling off the temple artifacts can earn millions. Especially if we auction them.

Imagine selling off the entire Ajanta Ellora caves! :enjoy: Trillions! :enjoy:

Who knows, they can be used to plant churches to spread the message of the Gospel. :D

Not interested in backward logic.

I didn't know that, any reference about it?

Right now ships have to go around Sri Lanka to cross the sub continent. Dredging that Strait and making it deep enough for large ships to trough means that the vessels can go between India and Lanka instead of around it. This will save them time and money, and a charge for the trasit can be raised. The volume will keep the ticker counting. Successve TN governments have rasied this demand over several decades but there is never any approval from centre. key reason is that backward, illiterate sanghis have decalred that the strait has a bridge built by Lord Ram with the help of Hanuman and is therefore a Hindu religious place. They don't want said 'bridge' mythically made of floating roacks to be disturbed for little things like a few billion dollars a year.

@Rain Man you can see the different routes in this map. The advantages are obvious to even the untraned eye, exept BJP Bhakts and Sanghis

sethusamudram_0.jpg
 
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You really are an idiot, you linked to an article showing Bangladesh food import falling! And that from years ago, did you actually read the article you linked you dumbas*? 75% degraded land, still pulling crap from your fat ***?

Can't take the fact your being made to look the fool you are? Don't worry, you'll grow a pair some day.....LOLdumdass

Yes, it was a link which showed falling imports from previous imports of 5 million tons of rice and wheat to 2.24 million tons. It is safe to assume Bangladesh still imports upwards of 2 million tons of food grains every year and it was only out of this imported food grain it managed to export a measly 40 k tons of rice for the first time in their history in 2014. So that makes it a net food importing country and not a food exporter.

That does not take away from the fact that 75% of land is degraded in Bangladesh. It does not mean that it cannot grow crops, but just that a lot of support is needed in terms of artificial inputs.

http://www.rrcap.ait.asia/pub/soe/bangladesh_land.pdf
 
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That won't be required for the same reason why all the parents in Gujrat didn't buy welding kits for their children once Tata Nano moved to Gujrat. :pop:

Now, you have ignored a few points that I have already mentioned previously, I will mention them again to reply to the points you have raised.

1. Young milk-giving cows are rarely smuggled/slaughtered, and when they are smuggled, that is only for dairy purpose, they are too costly for meat business. I hope you know the price of a good quality young cow. A large majority of the smuggled cattle are only bulls & bullocks, Buffalos are not smuggled as they can be slaughtered in India. This is the reason why India is no.1 in beef export but Bangladeshi beef fetch better price in international market because they use Indian bulls & buffalos.

2. Old cows are rarely used for meat because of the poor quality of meat. Those who eat mutton and chicken would tell you that old goats or chickens also don't taste good, nobody buys it.

3. Bengal cows and bulls/bullocks are smaller and in low demand, almost all the cattle that cross the Bangladesh border are bigger species from the states like Hariyana, Punjabi, MP, etc. local villagers call them Hariyana bulls or Jersi bulls (Balad in Bengali).

4. Since you only had one Bull once, and that too long back, and since this is the practice everywhere, ever wondered what happens to the bulls & bullocks who are supposed to be 50% of the population? Those bulls cross the border in mutual understanding and trade between the cattle owners and traders. Millions of cattle cross over to Bangladesh every year, a few lakhs every month, don't tell me they are all stolen cattle and there is no police action and no major public uprising about it in so many years.


Just for your information, bulls and bullocks are mostly transported on feet or packed in ordinary trucks, they are kept inside large dried ponds or open fields during the day, and pushed inside Bangladesh at night. Costlier milk-giving cows get royal treatment though, they are transported in much smaller numbers in large containers with grass flooring, water, food etc., they go as far as Malaysia also for dairy business. BSF fires at the smugglers mostly due to miscommunication, if there is a sudden visit by the higher officers and the local post fails to inform the smugglers; they will fire at the smugglers to save their jobs, they will also fire if they are not paid, but that rarely happens.
And like I have said before, my beef is with cows alone. :D

Not interested in backward logic.
Why? You meant confiscating temple gold, including the idols and making them into Reserve Bank Gold bullion will not benefit the nation? :D
 
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Yes, it was a link which showed falling imports from previous imports of 5 million tons of rice and wheat to 2.24 million tons. It is safe to assume Bangladesh still imports upwards of 2 million tons of food grains every year and it was only out of this imported food grain it managed to export a measly 40 k tons of rice for the first time in their history in 2014. So that makes it a net food importing country and not a food exporter.

That does not take away from the fact that 75% of land is degraded in Bangladesh. It does not mean that it cannot grow crops, but just that a lot of support is needed in terms of artificial inputs.

http://www.rrcap.ait.asia/pub/soe/bangladesh_land.pdf

Still showcasing your stupidity, so you "assumed" we imported 2 million ton of rice only so we could export 40 thousand tons...lol...you really are an imbecile. Let me make it easier so that tiny brain of yours can understand:

1. Bangladesh has achieved self sufficiency in its staple food, rice in the beginning of this decade and produces more rice then it consumes. It is a net exporter of rice not importer...dumbass.
2. The whole of Bangladesh sits in the Ganges delta, the entire nation is an alluvial basin....the worlds most fertile land. Enough fertile land to feed, over 160 million people...understand dumbass?
3. Food items like wheat flower that can't be grown in Bangladesh is imported from the international market.
4. Bangladesh has achieved International trade surplus with fast growing exports, expanding foreign reserves, etc etc I could go on but you won't understand because your an imbecile.
5. Bangladesh imports cattle from india throughout the year, primarily for re-export to the gulf except during Eid when the cattle are used to feed the poor.
6. Bangladesh produces high quality beef for export using cattle feed, from Australia and the U.S. we don't need to grow cattle feed in Bangladesh...again something you won't understand because your an imbecile.

Anyway do carry on in your deluded, world....dumbass
 
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