Sri Lanka refugees from Tamil Nadu not welcome in Australia

[illuminatidinesh]

learn history

Same goes for u as well..

 

[Saradiel]

Same goes for u as well..

I am pretty much knowledgable on SL history

 

[Bombermanx1]

They left because your country started a war here using them

MY COUNTRY STARTED A WAR?You started persecuting Tamils out of your Prejudice .

What a sharp slap for Tamil extremists.

The Tamil Nadu government is pathetic. Led by a backward and corpulent washed up movie star.

If We Dharmics didn't stop fighting against, You will be same as Maldives saying "Tauba Tauba"So
Backward and Corpulent? Mind your words buddy. We don't like anyone disturbing our peace. Besides you can campaign for TIBET and fellow Buddhists!

 

[my2cents]

No one make them to resign. They had to learn Sinhala. that is it. What else we to pass as state langauge other than Sinhala? Your langauge?



we did not invite anyone to our country. Our countries border's were not in our hands during british period and British brought outsiders to alter the demographics and control the sinhala people. If our leaders did not send these people back to where they really belong, SL would have become a real Fiji where the native figians are over powered by indians brought by the colonials. Thanks to sending them back we did not face it.
There is nothing wrong in sending the tamils back.
1. we did not make them come, british did
2. If they are to stay in SL they will have to take the culture of the native people if they are not ready they can leave to where they came from. That is very simple because we need to preserve our homeland the sinhalese homeland.

I personally think these 300k tamils should have been given british citizenship as it was the British who has wronged both us and them.
I dont think we need to give u any excuse in protecting our homeland.



You know nothing about SL issue. The sinhala and tamil politics saw this so called rupture in early 1920s and 30s. The tamil politicians wanted a minority rule over majority. They had that until universal suffrage was brought to SL. These tamil politicians went to Britain to campaign against giving democracy to SL because they wanted to maintain their minority rule over a majority.

Go and look for 1939 ethnic conflict in SL which is the first ethnic riot between sinhala nd tamil. The reason was a very racist tamil politician called GG ponnambalam.

The issue was turned into a bloody war by the indians by arming LTTE and other tamil militant groups and pressurizing the SL gover not to eliminate it. So india is the 2nd culprit for war in SL after LTTE.

not only minority a 100000 people died all over SL during the 30 year period and we finally put a stop to it. If you want to know about untold horros you can learn how LTTE killed little babies by thrashing them on tree trunks. ICRC an american institute itself reported that SL army worked with utmost care to minimise civilian casualty often sacrificing its soldiers.


learn history

You could have passed both Tamil and Sinhala as your official language if you were averse to english as your national language. Why impose them to learn Sinhala when they had performed their duties all their working career without any problem? You could have asked those joining the employment to learn Sinhala instead of asking people who were already established in their jobs. So, you see everything you say, smacks of hatred and insensitivity to your tamil brothers. No wonder they rebelled against you.

It is never easy to uproot people and displace them in foreign lands. When your successive governments for over a period of 3 decades kept sending your tamil people into our country, you were imposing undue burden on us and on them. Yet we repatriated some 300,000 of them in our country. We did not have to do that but being a generous nation we took them back but you did not stop at it but kept pushing for total ethnic cleansing of your tamil population. Thats when LTTE was born and by that time we already had enough people who felt the same what LTTE was demanding. So, you have to see the reason why there was so much resentment building among our own country people against your government policies.

If you guys had some sense to enact laws which accommodated your minorities this human suffering would have been completely avoided.

 

[Saradiel]

You could have passed both Tamil and Sinhala as your official language if you were averse to english as your national language. Why impose them to learn Sinhala when they had performed their duties all their working career without any problem? You could have asked those joining the employment to learn Sinhala instead of asking people who were already established in their jobs.

Not passing tamil as an official language is a poor decision by the then government. I have explained that several times in this forum it self. But what you do not know is while passing Sinhala as the official language Tamil had the status of regional langauge similar to what you have in India.

The North and East had tamil as the language of administration, since 1960s. And what you dont know is Tamil is now an official language since 1980s.

It is a stupid move to ask the already established people to learn the new language that is true, one thing that I agree with you. But what you dont understand is that did not affect the ones who worked in N and E. Imagine a tamil in India working in a government office in Delhi? Would nt he have to learn Hindi? Same thing happened.

So, you see everything you say, smacks of hatred and insensitivity to your tamil brothers. No wonder they rebelled against you.

It is not any insensitivity but I want the truth to come out other than some one's propaganda.

It is never easy to uproot people and displace them in foreign lands. When your successive governments for over a period of 3 decades kept sending your tamil people into our country, you were imposing undue burden on us and on them.

We did not kept sending any people to your country. The only example is when the estate workers were sent back after mutual agreement of both governments. People came to india as refugees because your country started and fueled a war here. You are either mixing up estate workers issue and war refugees.

We did not have to do that but being a generous nation we took them back but you did not stop at it but kept pushing for total ethnic cleansing of your tamil population.

Come to SL and see for yourself about a so called ethnic cleansing of tamils. Tamils live all over SL. Colombo city itself has close to 30% tamil population.

You were not being any generous you just accepted a group of people who were forcefully taken by the british

Thats when LTTE was born and by that time we already had enough people who felt the same what LTTE was demanding. So, you have to see the reason why there was so much resentment building among our own country people against your government policies.

The LTTE and the separatism issue has nothing to do with discrimination. There is a whole lot of politics in that and especially ultra racist tribal tamil politics. If you want to learn about it I will tell u

MY COUNTRY STARTED A WAR?You started persecuting Tamils out of your Prejudice .

Yes India established contacts with militant groups in 1970s and even supported cross border terrorism. The same thing that you accuse Pakistan of doing.
what persecution? Do you want to shed some light on it?

 

[HeinzG]

Its your government that is pathetic.... You cant look after your countrymen and talk about TN? After all they are civilians who fled country because they were killed indiscriminately.

Are they? When were they killed?

We didn't start that fire and don't blame us for your discriminatory politics which resulted in marginalizing your tamil population. If you guys were fair to them and accepted them as equal then this situation would not have come about. Now you guys have a chance to atone your sins and accept them as equal and welcome them.

What to do to equalize them with the Sinhalese?

First you enact the Citizenship law to discriminate tamils and disenfranchise them and make them stateless. After that you deport them from your country in thousands even though they were born in your country and their ancestors lived there since 1800's. Since 1947 some 300,000 refugees were deported to TN and still you have the gall to blame India. Then you guys pass sinhala as the state language and made your tamil civil service and other tamil employees to resign because they were not fluent in sinhalese. This started the biggest rupture between both your communities. Civil war ensued soon after which resulted in some 100,000 of your minorities to perish at the hands of your army with untold horrors and human suffering. Don't always blame others for their suffering that you could have avoided if you had any sense of compassion and basic humanity.

WTF? State Tamils were brought in by the British without the consent of the Sinhalese people. We can't accept everyone to our country? Australia is a living example. We sent half back and kept the rest.

It's the Tamil civil servant's fault that they don't know the Sinhala language. After all how they gonna server the people if they don't know their language?

Minority need to realize that they live in someone's land. I don't think Tamils asking for silly things like this in England or in Australia.

You could have passed both Tamil and Sinhala as your official language if you were averse to english as your national language. Why impose them to learn Sinhala when they had performed their duties all their working career without any problem? You could have asked those joining the employment to learn Sinhala instead of asking people who were already established in their jobs. So, you see everything you say, smacks of hatred and insensitivity to your tamil brothers. No wonder they rebelled against you.

Civil servants must now the language of the country. Or else how would they serve their countrymen? Those Tamil civil servants thrived under the British administration. It didn't need mastery of Sinhala or Tamil. Can't Tamils realize this small issue?

It is never easy to uproot people and displace them in foreign lands. When your successive governments for over a period of 3 decades kept sending your tamil people into our country, you were imposing undue burden on us and on them. Yet we repatriated some 300,000 of them in our country. We did not have to do that but being a generous nation we took them back but you did not stop at it but kept pushing for total ethnic cleansing of your tamil population. Thats when LTTE was born and by that time we already had enough people who felt the same what LTTE was demanding. So, you have to see the reason why there was so much resentment building among our own country people against your government policies.

If you guys had some sense to enact laws which accommodated your minorities this human suffering would have been completely avoided.

It's your countrymen for F*cks sake? If you can't relocate them in India what the hell you ask us from? How did we cleansed Tamils ethnically? Tell me.

 

[my2cents]

Not passing tamil as an official language is a poor decision by the then government. I have explained that several times in this forum it self. But what you do not know is while passing Sinhala as the official language Tamil had the status of regional langauge similar to what you have in India.

The North and East had tamil as the language of administration, since 1960s. And what you dont know is Tamil is now an official language since 1980s.

It is a stupid move to ask the already established people to learn the new language that is true, one thing that I agree with you. But what you dont understand is that did not affect the ones who worked in N and E. Imagine a tamil in India working in a government office in Delhi? Would nt he have to learn Hindi? Same thing happened.


It is not any insensitivity but I want the truth to come out other than some one's propaganda.


We did not kept sending any people to your country. The only example is when the estate workers were sent back after mutual agreement of both governments. People came to india as refugees because your country started and fueled a war here. You are either mixing up estate workers issue and war refugees.


Come to SL and see for yourself about a so called ethnic cleansing of tamils. Tamils live all over SL. Colombo city itself has close to 30% tamil population.

You were not being any generous you just accepted a group of people who were forcefully taken by the british



The LTTE and the separatism issue has nothing to do with discrimination. There is a whole lot of politics in that and especially ultra racist tribal tamil politics. If you want to learn about it I will tell u



Yes India established contacts with militant groups in 1970s and even supported cross border terrorism. The same thing that you accuse Pakistan of doing.
what persecution? Do you want to shed some light on it?

Are they? When were they killed?



What to do to equalize them with the Sinhalese?



WTF? State Tamils were brought in by the British without the consent of the Sinhalese people. We can't accept everyone to our country? Australia is a living example. We sent half back and kept the rest.

It's the Tamil civil servant's fault that they don't know the Sinhala language. After all how they gonna server the people if they don't know their language?

Minority need to realize that they live in someone's land. I don't think Tamils asking for silly things like this in England or in Australia.



Civil servants must now the language of the country. Or else how would they serve their countrymen? Those Tamil civil servants thrived under the British administration. It didn't need mastery of Sinhala or Tamil. Can't Tamils realize this small issue?



It's your countrymen for F*cks sake? If you can't relocate them in India what the hell you ask us from? How did we cleansed Tamils ethnically? Tell me.

When did British ever consulted you sinhalese to occupy your lands. They ruled both India and Sri Lanka and did lot of things that were not consulted by locals. No need to bring history into this discussion because we cannot undone the wrongs that were done. Just like you can't ask the current British people for all the suffering they imposed on the empire and ask for remuneration. They will show you middle finger and tell you to get lost.

Tamils and others were used as migrant labor for tea plantations and were transported wherever they needed them like in Sri Lanka, Fiji, Guyana, South Africa and other British colonies. Did british consult the locals about the foreign migrants?? No. They were the rulers of their colonies and for them they are shifting them from one colony to other. After the british left most of these migrants settled in their adopted countries and prospered. I don't believe any of them were forced out of their adopted countries except Sri Lanka.

And these migrants and slaves settled there for generations on. So how can you deny them citizenship rights when they are born in your country and their ancestor also were born in your country?

 

[HeinzG]

When did British ever consulted you sinhalese to occupy your lands. They ruled both India and Sri Lanka and did lot of things that were not consulted by locals. No need to bring history into this discussion because we cannot undone the wrongs that were done. Just like you can't ask the current British people for all the suffering they imposed on the empire and ask for remuneration. They will show you middle finger and tell you to get lost.

Tamils and others were used as migrant labor for tea plantations and were transported wherever they needed them like in Sri Lanka, Fiji, Guyana, South Africa and other British colonies. Did british consult the locals about the foreign migrants?? No. They were the rulers of their colonies and for them they are shifting them from one colony to other. After the british left most of these migrants settled in their adopted countries and prospered. I don't believe any of them were forced out of their adopted countries except Sri Lanka.

And these migrants and slaves settled there for generations on. So how can you deny them citizenship rights when they are born in your country and their ancestor also were born in your country?

Sri Lanka has every right to undone what British did. It's Sri Lanka's eternal right. There fore with consultation with India both countries agreed on to split the state Tamils equally and grant them citizenship. Sticking to the word Sri Lanka has granted them citizenship and every right that is enjoyed by Sinhalese. Today they live way better than the bickering Northern and Eastern Tamils.

 

[my2cents]

Sri Lanka has every right to undone what British did. It's Sri Lanka's eternal right. There fore with consultation with India both countries agreed on to split the state Tamils equally and grant them citizenship. Sticking to the word Sri Lanka has granted them citizenship and every right that is enjoyed by Sinhalese. Today they live way better than the bickering Northern and Eastern Tamils.

You guys took a political decision blithely without consulting the people that were effected by it. Those who got stateless and uprooted fought for their rights.. They had every right to live in SL because they have lived all their lives there. It is a birth right or some call natural law.

Imagine what would have happened if India refused to accommodate your people? Most probably you would have drove them into the sea. Sometime I wonder how your nation became a buddhist nation??? No compassion for fellow human beings.

 

[takeiteasy]

Tamils are a nationalistic group. More so aggressive in pursuing Nationalism and unite under it's banner calling themselves an ancient civilization and follows Periyar's Dravidianist theory blindly. The world view of a Tamil guy growing up studying in Tamilnadu will be a warped one, for sure as they teaches Dravidian principles. More so than Hindi language chauvinists who commands everyone should learn Hindi..(Two sides of the same coin).

Be it in India or elsewhere they group up in the name of Tamil language and at a later stage, they asks for separate nationhood. Even within Indian union, Kerala state fears the districts of Idukki and some other areas where Tamil labourers (tea plantations) settled by British are now acting as Anti-Kerala and asks for merger of these areas to Tamilnadu! Tamils have HUGE influence in the centre as they bargain with the centre threatening (directly and indirectly) Tamilnadu will secede. And you can see how a dangerous fragile Mullaperiyar dam is deemed safe by the central machinery including supreme court. So, being smaller state and being more refined means NOTHING in Indian union. So, I believe if it is for some other group, they'd have survived and balanced in Sri Lanka. From whatever it is, the temperament of Sinhalese population also matches that of Tamils, hence may be the violent confrontations.