Sports car made by Pakistani students to be unveiled today

[Finer]

It is possible with water too as it is source of life - source of fuel. When it comes the rumour of water fueled cars, they are immediately shut down. Some have been killed disguising as accident. It is dirty business with the lots of influence concerning oil pipeline. It is miracle Tesla somehow defied all the odds so far but same cannot be said about his father is now restored by the son.

 

[Verve]

That was a different issue ... electrical cars were not possible at that time due to lack of technology however, in case of water it is not issue of tech but issue of chemical composition ...

The people showing cars running on water are first converting water in hydrogen using electric energy and then burning hydrogen again to run vehicle ... even woth 100 efficient (which is not possible) the power generated will be equal to power consumed hence there will be no extra power to run vehicle ...

Aluminium + Gallium + Water = Hydrogen

1370 litres of Hydrogen per 1 litre of Water!

No need for volts!

Aluminium is very cheap and readily available, and process of reusing that aluminium with new gallium coating is not expensive either. Gallium can be reused as well. Car has already been run with this reaction but as usual the guy and the kit he developed have disappeared.

Video from an airforce research lab ... thought this may be more convincing to those who believe public experiments to be fake.

 

[BATMAN]

Because water car is a scam ... its not possible ...

What's not possible in water car?
- To have the ability to separate oxygen and hydrogen atoms
- or combustion of hydrogen in regular external combustion engine?

 

[Verve]

and this ...

 

[The Accountant]

What's not possible in water car?
- To have the ability to separate oxygen and hydrogen atoms
- or combustion of hydrogen in regular external combustion engine?

To separate water and hydrogen at a cost lower than the price of buying petrol

Aluminium + Gallium + Water = Hydrogen

1370 litres of Hydrogen per 1 litre of Water!

No need for volts!

Aluminium is very cheap and readily available, and process of reusing that aluminium with new gallium coating is not expensive either. Gallium can be reused as well. Car has already been run with this reaction but as usual the guy and the kit he developed have disappeared.

Video from an airforce research lab ... thought this may be more convincing to those who believe public experiments to be fake.

And u are assuming that pure aluminium is available in liquid form ?

Grow up man ... first you have to separate aluminium from aluminum ore which is expensive process then for reaction u require pure aluminum in liquid form ... how are u suppose to melt aluminium ?

U r not gettong the poont .. the point is the enrgy require to separate hydrogen from water itself requires energy which will always be higherthan energy generated feom burning oxygen due to wastages in chemical process ... therefore whatever u r proposing is not commercially feasible to replace petrol with water ...

The video u share is completely different prospective ... for rocket fuel cost is not the issue but the storage is so even if gettong pure liquid aluminium is expensive but it will take much less space then liquid hydrogen to store as he hinself that one liter of water after reacting with aluminium gives seberal hundred liter of hydrogen therefore ideally it can give better usage of space in rocket as hydrogen and oxygen released can be combined agaon to form water and energy ...

In a car cost is priority not the space ...

 

[Verve]

To separate water and hydrogen at a cost lower than the price of buying petrol


And u are assuming that pure aluminium is available in liquid form ?

Grow up man ... first you have to separate aluminium from aluminum ore which is expensive process then for reaction u require pure aluminum in liquid form ... how are u suppose to melt aluminium ?

U r not gettong the poont .. the point is the enrgy require to separate hydrogen from water itself requires energy which will always be higherthan energy generated feom burning oxygen due to wastages in chemical process ... therefore whatever u r proposing is not commercially feasible to replace petrol with water ...

The video u share is completely different prospective ... for rocket fuel cost is not the issue but the storage is so even if gettong pure liquid aluminium is expensive but it will take much less space then liquid hydrogen to store as he hinself that one liter of water after reacting with aluminium gives seberal hundred liter of hydrogen therefore ideally it can give better usage of space in rocket as hydrogen and oxygen released can be combined agaon to form water and energy ...

In a car cost is priority not the space ...

Melted Aluminium? No one is saying that melted aluminium is required.

Melted Gallium if you must ask - put some in your palm and it will melt!

Do you even know what Gallium does to Aluminium? Put some gallium on a plate of aluminium and after a while you will be able to break that plate with you hands.

Gallium etched on to solid aluminium and then water poured on it to produce hydrogen. That's the simplified version experiment you can do at home without any effort or specialised equipment.

Please research before saying 'grow up' nonsense.

 

[The Accountant]

Melted Aluminium? No one is saying that melted aluminium is required.

Melted Gallium if you must ask - put some in your palm and it will melt!

Do you even know what Gallium does to Aluminium? Put some gallium on a plate of aluminium and after a while you will be able to break that plate with you hands.

Gallium etched on to solid aluminium and then water poured on it to produce hydrogen. That's the simplified version experiment you can do at home without any effort or specialised equipment.

Please research before saying 'grow up' nonsense.

Ok do it at home and share a video to prove it ...

Do u know from where the aluminium is extracted ? Its from aluminium ore itself which is composed of oxidised aluminium compound ... so first out of aluminium i have to separate oxygen and other impurities from aluminium only to get it reacted from water to make aluminium oxide again ... and the process is cheaper then price of oil ... why dont u start using it prove me wrong ...

Its so simple ... u can get aluminium from used canes ... gallium i am sure u can arrange ... i will donate my car for experiment of the hydrogen u generate if i ever could

 

[Verve]

In a car cost is priority not the space ...

Cost of one car tank full is, 5K rupees at present? Appx $40, yes?

Cost of 1kg Aluminium is $2.50 in the market at present. Let's suppose cost is is $40 for a gallium etched sheet of aluminium that would last 3 months of mileage.

Which one is cheaper?

Let's assume this aluminium sheet is mass produced and readily available everywhere, just as fuel is at fuel stations. Economies of scale, let's assume that.

Aluminium sheets are readily available in West, because the supply chain is well established. Aluminium is one of the most extracted metals in the world, hence it is $2.50 per kg in the market!

Its from aluminium ore itself which is composed of oxidised aluminium compound

Gallium removes the oxidisation of aluminium, hence allowing it to react with water! You do not need PURE aluminium!!!!

Ok do it at home and share a video to prove it ...

Yeah, let me get some gallium after the holidays. I've already got blocks of aluminium.

In the meantime, watch this:

 

[The Accountant]

Cost of one car tank full is, 5K rupees at present? Appx $40, yes?

Cost of 1kg Aluminium is $2.50 in the market at present. Let's suppose cost is is $40 for a gallium etched sheet of aluminium that would last 3 months of mileage.

Which one is cheaper?

Let's assume this aluminium sheet is mass produced and readily available everywhere, just as fuel is at fuel stations. Economies of scale, let's assume that.

Aluminium sheets are readily available in West, because the supply chain is well established. Aluminium is one of the most extracted metals in the world, hence it is $2.50 per kg in the market!



Gallium removes the oxidisation of aluminium, hence allowing it to react with water! You do not need PURE aluminium!!!!



Yeah, let me get some gallium after the holidays. I've already got blocks of aluminium.

In the meantime, watch this:

This process is already in use for indistrial production of hydrogen but the cost of hydrogen is higher than fuel and despite being environment friendly hydrogen is not being used as fuel due to higher cost ...

Furthermore u cant do this in your car as residual alimnium oxide cant stay in tank so u have to produce hydrogen somewhere else and then destribute it through fuel stations ...

The problem is not about tech but feasibilith ... down the lone when fuel will become expensove then hydrogen extracted from water might be the only fuel or may be solar cells but roght now focil fuels r tbe cheapest

Furrhermore this is different then salt water car which was the orginal message i replied to ... salt water is electrolysis of water and its a pure scam ...

 

[Verve]

This process is already in use for indistrial production of hydrogen but the cost of hydrogen is higher than fuel and despite being environment friendly hydrogen is not being used as fuel due to higher cost ...

Furthermore u cant do this in your car as residual alimnium oxide cant stay in tank so u have to produce hydrogen somewhere else and then destribute it through fuel stations ...

The problem is not about tech but feasibilith ... down the lone when fuel will become expensove then hydrogen extracted from water might be the only fuel or may be solar cells but roght now focil fuels r tbe cheapest

Furrhermore this is different then salt water car which was the orginal message i replied to ... salt water is electrolysis of water and its a pure scam ...

My posts were never about salt and electrolysis method.

It's all about money and control from fossil fuel. Aluminium and Gallium mixed alloy can be easily mass produced worldwide.

Residual Aluminium Oxide can be easily processed to extract the gallium for reuse, and waste aluminium oxide can be further chemically processed at the factory to produce hydrogen.

Setup is smaller than the CNG tanks, with residual metal removed with new plates installed for use.

Hydrogen creation chamber + temporary storage chamber + high pressure pump + main cylinder.

Rest of the fuel delivery / injection setup would be similar to already used in LPG and CNG equipped vehicles. For small engine vehicles, chamber + regulator may just be sufficient depending on the rate of hydrogen production (litres per minute).

It's a matter of one strong country taking this step and promoting the tech. Economies of scale is key.

To be honest, a very small hydrogen setup can run a very small engine attached to a generator to charge EV batteries on an all electric car on the move. Of course the system can be automated fully.

Plus generators we have in homes can be run by it, easily.

 

[ARMalik]

My posts were never about salt and electrolysis method.

It's all about money and control from fossil fuel. Aluminium and Gallium mixed alloy can be easily mass produced worldwide.

Residual Aluminium Oxide can be easily processed to extract the gallium for reuse, and waste aluminium oxide can be further chemically processed at the factory to produce hydrogen.

Setup is smaller than the CNG tanks, with residual metal removed with new plates installed for use.

Hydrogen creation chamber + temporary storage chamber + high pressure pump + main cylinder.

Rest of the fuel delivery / injection setup would be similar to already used in LPG and CNG equipped vehicles. For small engine vehicles, chamber + regulator may just be sufficient depending on the rate of hydrogen production (litres per minute).

It's a matter of one strong country taking this step and promoting the tech. Economies of scale is key.

To be honest, a very small hydrogen setup can run a very small engine attached to a generator to charge EV batteries on an all electric car on the move. Of course the system can be automated fully.

Plus generators we have in homes can be run by it, easily.

I know what you mean - I work in a similar industry. There is NO need for oil and gas since alternative abundantly cheap energy sources are available all over this World.

The way this whole world has been slaved to oil and gas is so fuckd up that I am convinced that this planet unfortunately has been for thousands of years been ruled by Evil and fuckd up entities who just do not want humans to progress.

 

[ALi Rizwan]

Because water car is a scam ... its not possible ...

Sir its possible although its half truth.
Complete truth is Water is not used as direct fuel instead they used a mix Water(Hydrogen)+Petrol.

 

[The Accountant]

My posts were never about salt and electrolysis method.

It's all about money and control from fossil fuel. Aluminium and Gallium mixed alloy can be easily mass produced worldwide.

Residual Aluminium Oxide can be easily processed to extract the gallium for reuse, and waste aluminium oxide can be further chemically processed at the factory to produce hydrogen.

Setup is smaller than the CNG tanks, with residual metal removed with new plates installed for use.

Hydrogen creation chamber + temporary storage chamber + high pressure pump + main cylinder.

Rest of the fuel delivery / injection setup would be similar to already used in LPG and CNG equipped vehicles. For small engine vehicles, chamber + regulator may just be sufficient depending on the rate of hydrogen production (litres per minute).

It's a matter of one strong country taking this step and promoting the tech. Economies of scale is key.

To be honest, a very small hydrogen setup can run a very small engine attached to a generator to charge EV batteries on an all electric car on the move. Of course the system can be automated fully.

Plus generators we have in homes can be run by it, easily.

Bro I am still not convinced energy required to separate hydrogen will always be higher than energy generated from burning hydrogen ... In the case you share that energy to is being shared indirectly first by manufacturing pure aluminum from aluminum and gallium from gallium ore ...

Lets agree to disagree ...

Sir its possible although its half truth.
Complete truth is Water is not used as direct fuel instead they used a mix Water(Hydrogen)+Petrol.

Hydrogen is a totally different thing ... u can run your car on alcohal or many other thing ... water car is to extract hydrogen out of water at a cost lower than fossil fuel ... i think thats not possible till to date

 

[ALi Rizwan]

Hydrogen is a totally different thing ... u can run your car on alcohal or many other thing ... water car is to extract hydrogen out of water at a cost lower than fossil fuel ... i think thats not possible till to date

Sir some one was using the car couple of year after that Water Car Guy Story.
He clarified that its a mix not water only.
And water container/bottle need continues cleaning or replacement which is issue from him.

 

[Verve]

Bro I am still not convinced energy required to separate hydrogen will always be higher than energy generated from burning hydrogen ... In the case you share that energy to is being shared indirectly first by manufacturing pure aluminum from aluminum and gallium from gallium ore ...

What about energy for extracting and processing black oil to various fuels and oils?

Even energy is required to digest food.

Anyways, resonance will shape the future of energy. Hydrogen fuel is unlikely to take off but high resonance energy (high voltage + high frequency) to turn generators is very promising.