Spoke too soon Mr Obama

[Bang Galore]

So its a white group. Nothing to do with muslims only. They want all non-whites out. And are going after the softest targets.

In Seattle? It's pretty much in one of the most liberal states in the US and Seattle itself is where Microsoft is. Substantial Indian population there. This is just a couple of crazies running around.

 

[TejasMk3]

Aaaand they paint a swastika... lol

These are guys who think Buddha/Krishna/Rama were blue eyed blonde haired guys, and other such nonsense. If you want to see how they think, just go to storm front forums, these guys are seriously bonkers.

Anyway, another incident today:
Indian-American shopkeeper shot dead in US; no damage to store or indication of robbery - Firstpost

And also OP missed out the attack on the islamic centtre (mosque?) and the shooting of 3 muslims in a parking lot.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

KingMamba clarified. That's a school. Maybe a white supremacist neo-nazi group. The tilt of the swastika suggest as much ..... savages.

I remember the processions in New York, by the Sikhs - stating clearly - 'We are NOT Muslims!' At least when you are expressing bigotry, at least give the impression that you know whom you hate.

 

[doppelganger]

In Seattle? It's pretty much in one of the most liberal states in the US and Seattle itself is where Microsoft is. Substantial Indian population there. This is just a couple of crazies running around.

To be honest, there will be howls of protest fom Pakistanis, and Indian aaptards/communists/liberal/secularists/naxals/congressis/islamists/jihadists/appeasists/apologists/self-haters alike, but the recent spate of attacks on Churches in New Delhi are being strongly suspected to be the handiwork of some of the latter to stir up s.hit against the BJP and the Sangh parivar and paint them as the bad guys.

If so, its a very dangerous game they are playing, and someone soon is going to get hurt pretty badly.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

To be honest, there will be howls of protest fom Pakistanis, and Indian aaptards/communists/liberal/secularists/naxals/congressis/islamists/jihadists/appeasists/apologists/self-haters alike, but the recent spate of attacks on Churches in New Delhi are being strongly suspected to be the handiwork of some of the latter to stir up s.hit against the BJP and the Sangh parivar and paint them as the bad guys.

Pretty sure it was done by the usual suspects. If we had a hand in them, we could have simply Babried them by now. We don't need to hit and run. Run from whom? Lol.

 

[T90TankGuy]

Who the heck paints a swastika on a Hindu temple......? Except maybe Hindus themselves. You really have to feel sorry for the chaps who did it, being born without a brain is a bummer.

Just a thought but it might be white supremacists , they too use the swastika.

 

[Bang Galore]

Just a thought but it might be white supremacists , they too use the swastika.

Think it's more a couple of idiots or a very small group at best. Don't think there is any real threat.

P.S. I understand it's a white supremacy thingy but to use the swastika to scare those people who have seen it all their lives is funny.

 

[wolfschanzze]

What the Fcuk are you talking about Mr.Stupid Angolan!You should be the last person on God's green earth to comment on religious tolerance after all we all know what is happening in Angola.First go and save you own country and then perhaps we can have a meaningful conversation!!

He is a false flag,most probably chinese 50 cent army.

To be honest, there will be howls of protest fom Pakistanis, and Indian aaptards/communists/liberal/secularists/naxals/congressis/islamists/jihadists/appeasists/apologists/self-haters alike, but the recent spate of attacks on Churches in New Delhi are being strongly suspected to be the handiwork of some of the latter to stir up s.hit against the BJP and the Sangh parivar and paint them as the bad guys.

If so, its a very dangerous game they are playing, and someone soon is going to get hurt pretty badly.

Most probably it will blow over them very bad if they continue doing this,what if Hindus really get pissed off by the blame game and started doing it for real,where will these people be then?
If they always keep blaming hindus for Vandalizing their churches and play victim cards,then someone will call their bluff and go postal on them.

Pretty sure it was done by the usual suspects. If we had a hand in them, we could have simply Babried them by now. We don't need to hit and run. Run from whom? Lol.

Exactly, if we wanted to do it in real,then no hit and run attacks, which will only help Christians raise Victim card with Minimal damage.If you wanted to do damage,then do Unacceptable damage.
Then the other party will understand,Playing Victim card is actually less beneficial for them while they asses the Cost-Benefit ratio of their self flagellation and asking for sympathy from hindus.

 

[doppelganger]

Think it's more a couple of idiots or a very small group at best. Don't think there is any real threat.

P.S. I understand it's a white supremacy thingy but to use the swastika to scare those people who have seen it all their lives is funny.

Not only seen it all our lives, but gave it to them in the first place.

He is a false flag,most probably chinese 50 cent army.

Most probably it will blow over them very bad if they continue doing this,what if Hindus really get pissed off by the blame game and started doing it for real,where will these people be then?
If they always keep blaming hindus for Vandalizing their churches and play victim cards,then someone will call their bluff and go postal on them.

Exactly, if we wanted to do it in real,then no hit and run attacks, which will only help Christians raise Victim card with Minimal damage.If you wanted to do damage,then do Unacceptable damage.
Then the other party will understand,Playing Victim card is actually less beneficial for them while they asses the Cost-Benefit ratio of their self flagellation and asking for sympathy from hindus.

It must be said here in no uncertain terms that off late, especially when it comes to the BJP and the Sangh, the Christian community is really losing the plot big time. I quite appreciate the maturity shown by our Muslim brothers in comparison.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Not only seen it all our lives, but gave it to them in the first place.



It must be said here in no uncertain terms that off late, especially when it comes to the BJP and the Sangh, the Christian community is really losing the plot big time. I quite appreciate the maturity shown by our Muslim brothers in comparison.

In their zeal to play victim and paint Hindus as oppressors they overplayed their hand, they wanted Sympathy from Hindu Majority as a result, what is happening now is hindus are getting more communal,when you blame everything under the sun on Hindus.
They over played their hand, 260+ Temples,burgled, vandalized not a word was said by hindus,nor we blamed any particular community or political party, the media didn't utter a word about it or any Communal angle.
5 churches got looted, suddenly it becomes communal? even when presented with proof of theft.
Good, keep blaming,it will only make the neutral fence sitting hindus join hard core hindtuva camp.
More,power to us

 

[doppelganger]

In their zeal to play victim and paint Hindus as oppressors they overplayed their hand, they wanted Sympathy from Hindu Majority as a result, what is happening now is hindus are getting more communal,when you blame everything under the sun on Hindus.
They over played their hand, 260+ Temples,burgled, vandalized not a word was said by hindus,nor we blamed any particular community or political party, the media didn't utter a word about it or any Communal angle.
5 churches got looted, suddenly it becomes communal? even when presented with proof of theft.
Good, keep blaming,it will only make the neutral fence sitting hindus join hard core hindtuva camp.
More,power to us

The guys from their community who are going to other countries and speaking crap about India, are doing no favors to the rest of the community. I have many Christian friends. Sweet people. But the facts cannot be ignored. They are buying into the lies. I am seeing it happen. Modi this, VHP that, Sangh this, Hindu that. You cannot do that. You cannot polarize the big chunk of India against you. This is not the way. You are in effect telling the country that you feel like outsiders and trust other countries more for takng care of your issues rather than your own country and its institutions and people. That is the worst disservice these paid off evangelists can do to the community. Because you are making people doubt their nationalism. And that is more damaging than any religious schism, in the context of modern India. Indian muslim commnity over the past 10 odd years has made some progress on that score. The Christians folishly are going backward. And the brutal fact is, their numbers are nowhere up there with the that of the Muslims to risk negative sentiment from the majority Hindu populace. I am concerned. I hope the Christians are as well.

 

[wolfschanzze]

The guys from their community who are going to other countries and speaking crap about India, are doing no favors to the rest of the community. I have many Christian friends. Sweet people. But the facts cannot be ignored. They are buying into the lies. I am seeing it happen. Modi this, VHP that, Sangh this, Hindu that. You cannot do that. You cannot polarize the big chunk of India against you. This is not the way. You are in effect telling the country that you feel like outsiders and trust other countries more for takng care of your issues rather than your own country and its institutions and people. That is the worst disservice these paid off evangelists can do to the community. Because you are making people doubt their nationalism. And that is more damaging than any religious schism, in the context of modern India. Indian muslim commnity over the past 10 odd years has made some progress on that score. The Christians folishly are going backward. And the brutal fact is, their numbers are nowhere up there with the that of the Muslims to risk negative sentiment from the majority Hindu populace. I am concerned. I hope the Christians are as well.

The church attacks were cleverly timed before Obama's arrival and when Hindus started doing Ghar Wapsi,the Christian evangelists were in for a shock,that if Hindus started converting otherS to hinduism,their soul harvesting market will be over.They also want no debate be raised over Anti-Conversion law.
What better way to brush all these things under carpet, and get a lecture from the biggest violator of human rights, and Christian Nation,USA.
Like it or not, they are polarizing a big chunk of Hindus to become overtly Hindu

They think that Christian Nations like USA would come to help them and Invade India, throw off Hindu people and crown Christian people as rulers of India.They should look around, what the world is doing when Coptic Christians are murdered in Egypt,Iraq or Africa, They did nothing,Same will happen here nothing.
If USA tries that Christian nation Intimidation tactic, it will only permanently push India into BRICS camp and SCO.Then even if USA cries around the world, these 3 Nations have enough power to show Middle finger to USA.

 

[doppelganger]

Like it or not, they are polarizing a big chunk of Hindus to become overtly Hindu

I'm not so sure about the becoming overtly Hindu part. We are a really old faith and civilization. Very comfortable, almost phlegmatically lethargic, and secure in our own selves. No one is really going to nudge us from the direction we have set for ourselves.

What these acts (going to Christian countries, whining, crying, wringing hands, etc.) are doing is even causing self hating Hindus to frown. I'm sure sikhs and muslims are not too chuffed about this either.

Because India is built on nationalism. Not religion.

And going to the UK and US? Seriously man, where is your sense of Indianness?

 

[wolfschanzze]

I'm not so sure about the becoming overtly Hindu part. We are a really old faith and civilization. Very comfortable, almost phlegmatically lethargic, and secure in our own selves. No one is really going to nudge us from the direction we have set for ourselves.

What these acts (going to Christian countries, whining, crying, wringing hands, etc.) are doing is even causing self hating Hindus to frown. I'm sure sikhs and muslims are not too chuffed about this either.

Because India is built on nationalism. Not religion.

And going to the UK and US? Seriously man, where is your sense of Indianness?

This is like going to a Murderer to plead for Justice from the Murderer.

We are old faith and Civilization, but make no mistake every Civilization has to evolve from time to time or else it becomes Extinct,we are still around because we evolved successfully and this new evolution will make those docile, lethargic hindus become overtly hindus in order to protect their way of life.
When you live in a forest full of Dangerous Predators and Animals, You have to become a Hunter yourself, or get hunted by the animals for being too docile.

 

[doppelganger]

This is like going to a Murderer to plead for Justice from the Murderer.

We are old faith and Civilization, but make no mistake every Civilization has to evolve from time to time or else it becomes Extinct,we are still around because we evolved successfully and this new evolution will make those docile, lethargic hindus become overtly hindus in order to protect their way of life.
When you live in a forest full of Dangerous Predators and Animals, You have to become a Hunter yourself, or get hunted by the animals for being too docile.

The problem here is that the self hating Hindus are neither docile nor lethargic.

The bigger fight coming will more likely be within the fold than without. Which is what we are seeing for the past few years. Its just the begining.