Special unit for Pakistan border on the cards

[That Guy]

The state lost its legitimacy when the democratic voice of the people was stifled. Once the proper state institutions were already violated and made redundant by West Pakistanis, the apparatus that existed there was not a legitimate state anymore, but an oppressing entity.

By your definition any freedom struggle anywhere would be terrorism. No, fighting against an illegitimate authority is not terrorism. It is a virtue.

fighting against any government using violence that targets civilians (which you seem to be pretending didn't happen), is not a virtue, innocents were butchered by Indian trained terrorists. While I do agree what happened during the elections was regrettable, violence was not the answer, nor was an insurgency.

 

[Indus Falcon]

The state lost its legitimacy when the democratic voice of the people was stifled. Once the proper state institutions were already violated and made redundant by West Pakistanis, the apparatus that existed there was not a legitimate state anymore, but an oppressing entity.

By your definition any freedom struggle anywhere would be terrorism. No, fighting against an illegitimate authority is not terrorism. It is a virtue.

Bangladesh would have never come into existence if it weren't for the Indians support of Mukhti Bahani. Ironically, the Indians are facing a crisis because of that very same decision, with millions of illegal Bengalis in India. Nice!!

 

[janon]

fighting against any government using violence that targets civilians (which you seem to be pretending didn't happen), is not a virtue, innocents were butchered by Indian trained terrorists. While I do agree what happened during the elections was regrettable, violence was not the answer, nor was an insurgency.

As I said before, the govt lost its legitimacy. So they were not fighting against the govt, they were fighting against oppressors, and they were fighting for self rule.

 

[SinghisSingh]

As I said before, the govt lost its legitimacy. So they were not fighting against the govt, they were fighting against oppressors, and they were fighting for self rule.

And we are fighting for our Land from you evil hindu oppressors

 

[Contrarian]

I didn't say it was a stalemate, who said anything about a stalemate? India tried to recapture each peak, but many of the attempts were actually complete failures, which is why India agreed to a disengagement plan. India's plan was that once PA troops withdraw, they'd move in, but ones Pakistan caught on to the plan, India ended up losing 2 hills, 5353 and Tiger hill, which India only got back in 2003.

I have not read Kaiser Tufail's version of events, though I may do that in the future, now that you've mentioned it.

Many attempts were failures, but with time, India's success rate was improving as both Army and IAF started adapted. Kaiser Tufail's version will also corroborate this.

Here:
Aeronaut: Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force

And read his profile.
He was the Director of Operations of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) during the Kargil conflict..He also served as Deputy Commandant Air War College.
This will give you some very good new information on the Kargil war.

 

[janon]

Bangladesh would have never come into existence if it weren't for the Indians support of Mukhti Bahani. Ironically, the Indians are facing a crisis because of that very same decision, with millions of illegal Bengalis in India. Nice!!

India was facing an even bigger crisis of refugees before the 1971 war. We were a desperately poor country, and Pakistan's genocide had caused some 10 million refugees to flee into India for shelter. It was economically breaking our back.

The Bangladeshis coming in today are coming for work, and therefore are not that much of an economic burden - besides, they would have come anyway, whether or not the war happened. Having some illegal immigrants is far less of a problem than losing half the country.

 

[That Guy]

As I said before, the govt lost its legitimacy. So they were not fighting against the govt, they were fighting against oppressors, and they were fighting for self rule.

Except that you forget that the only reason why a Bengali even won was because he got majority votes on both wings of Pakistan, east and west. If anything, the reaction would have been to seek a central government, not separation. See, this is the biggest problem with your argument, it simply doesn't take into account the political situation in the country at the time.

 

[SinghisSingh]

India was facing an even bigger crisis of refugees before the 1971 war. We were a desperately poor country, and Pakistan's genocide had caused some 10 million refugees to flee into India for shelter. It was economically breaking our back.

The Bangladeshis coming in today are coming for work, and therefore are not that much of an economic burden - besides, they would have come anyway, whether or not the war happened. Having some illegal immigrants is far less of a problem than losing half the country.

we will help the bengalis to get their own land from India too

 

[janon]

Except that you forget that the only reason why a Bengali even won was because he got majority votes on both wings of Pakistan, east and west. If anything, the reaction would have been to seek a central government, not separation. See, this is the biggest problem with your argument, it simply doesn't take into account the political situation in the country at the time.

Of course he did - and what did West Pakistan do in response? Since he got majority votes, he should have been PM. What happened actually is quite well known, which is why the subsequent govt was not a legitimate govt, and had no mandate.

 

[Indus Falcon]

India was facing an even bigger crisis of refugees before the 1971 war. We were a desperately poor country, and Pakistan's genocide had caused some 10 million refugees to flee into India for shelter. It was economically breaking our back.

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There is no evidence of 10m refugees. It was a lie spun by Indra Gandhi and you bought that fairy tale!

 

[SinghisSingh]

hindus will fail like always

 

[That Guy]

Of course he did - and what did West Pakistan do in response? Since he got majority votes, he should have been PM. What happened actually is quite well known, which is why the subsequent govt was not a legitimate govt, and had no mandate.

By your definition, even if violence is needed, separation shouldn't have been the issue, because it wasn't just Bangladesh that got screwed over.

So in the end, your own argument is invalidated by your own logic. In the end, whether you like it or not, by definition, India armed and supported a terrorist group against a foreign nation.

 

[wolfschanzze]

What about us Sikhs? did you arrogant hindus plan a plot for us too

i dont reply to a false flagger,sorry

 

[SinghisSingh]

Of course he did - and what did West Pakistan do in response? Since he got majority votes, he should have been PM. What happened actually is quite well known, which is why the subsequent govt was not a legitimate govt, and had no mandate.

what happened was that the hindu bondos were hiding behind their lungis

 

[airmarshal]

This is a stupid show of force. All Indian armed forces and most of its intelligence is directed at Pakistan. There is no need to have another special unit.