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Speaking the language of power

There are 3 forces that dictate BD geo political position, in order of influence its US, china and then India. China have to date not sought to influence anything but have assisted in nation building.

However what is clear that china has its own interests and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

It is quite clear to me atleast that BD has to recalibrate its approach. BD needs to reorient itself to US in the medium term as our interest no longer aligns with that of china vis a vis Burma.

This does not mean we should not utilise Chinese economic and military knowhow, but I think BD look east policy will take a back seat.

We need to use US against Chinese interest in Burma and China against Indian hedgemony in the region.

BD has no friends except muslims countries that is a basic statement of fact. For everyone else BD needs to be look out for its own interest. Where our priorities align cooperate where it does not gracefully disengage.

And as far as Burmese monkeys are concerned BD needs to go 100% aggressive within diplomatic norms for now.
 
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"strong military" is just one component for "geo political independence". Without a strong political government with popular support, without strong and diversified economy and without absolute determination to national identity and interest, there is NO "independence". Bangladesh current situation is prime example. Heck country like indian can not even practice "geo political independence".

Again, as I had mentioned China, "dominant" "in future" NOT a present day scenario. When they are dominant "in future" we will look it over and define relation accordingly. Until then "transaction" is what China wants and suits them.

As for inviting US in the region, got news for you...US had been and are in the region already. Invited by india, US already has access to indian ports and facilities, india is already strategic partner of US. Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam and Philippine, S. Korea and Japan all have various degree of US presence and cooperation. Bangladesh enhancing and balancing its relation not an out of the world thing. So, don't try to fear monger based on some rubbish Chinese statement.

Both Awami League and BNP are unfit to lead a strong and independent BD, as much as a country like BD can be independent. But who knows maybe this Rohingya disaster will knock some sense into them.
My point is that BD itself must gain military strength in order to deal with Myanmar and not be seen as a lackey of the US.
 
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Well, too much noise in here, please stop importing Chinese weapons, Chinese money first ok? Chinese consumer market the biggest on this plant will close the door.

After that, India first or Japan first or USA first policy, we don't care, but do not ever touch Chinese interests , other wise, more veto will come to you, we'll hear more noise in PDF which nobody likes!
 
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Well, too much noise in here, please stop importing Chinese weapons, Chinese money first ok? Chinese consumer market the biggest on this plant will close the door.

After that, India first or Japan first or USA first policy, we don't care, but do not ever touch Chinese interests , other wise, more veto will come to you, we'll hear more noise in PDF which nobody likes!

When Chinese policy is walking over the dead bodies and going against Bangladesh interest, it will be called out. Go do whatever Chinese need to do. This is not a place to make threat.
 
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When Chinese policy is walking over the dead bodies and going against Bangladesh interest, it will be called out. Go do whatever Chinese need to do. This is not a place to make threat.

Your attitude and approach towards the situation will only get you grief. If this is indeed reflective of how Bangladesh handles this situation, then you have only yourselves to blame.
 
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Your attitude and approach towards the situation will only get you grief. If this is indeed reflective of how Bangladesh handles this situation, then you have only yourselves to blame.

We don't accept Chinese, Chinese disguise as Pakistani or anyone threat for that matter. Go pound sand all we care.
 
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This hawkish article ( in substance I agree) is written by a so called "research fellow" from a western leaning institution. He has background serving military but officially just the opposite policy pursued.

Everyone is aware of cost of working with US. But this became existential issue and China-Russia pretty much said hell with Bangladesh interest and existence. To Chinese and Russians, they think they can achieve their geopolitical goals in south and south east Asia by bypassing Bangladesh. So, it was not our choice to go with US but China and Russia forced us to do what we need for survival of people.

why are interests of 1 million Rohaniyas taking precedence over 150 million Bangladeshis ?
Armed conflict is undesirable but may be necessary

There seems to be a flawed tendency in sections of Bangladeshi civil society, media, and intelligentsia of almost all hue to readily put military options, of whatever kind, off the table when it comes to the Rohingya crisis.

People of this cross-cutting category get prematurely worried about the outcome of any sort of military conflict in an absurd fear-mongering and cowardice way, without much objective assessment, and that actually emboldens an adversary who is, in reality, not extraordinarily stronger than us, nor has the potential to get much stronger in future than what they are now.

This is not to advocate the idea that Bangladesh, at this unprepared stage, should start wielding its sword; but ruling out military options in the mid or long term, if the problem persists, would send a wrong signal to the adversary, own population, allies, and the persecuted community.

The adversary will have a free hand and may commit further atrocities without hesitation, and create even graver problems for Bangladesh.

Had Bangladesh been just as strong as the Myanmar militarily, who are economically much smaller than us, they wouldn’t have dared to push half a million Rohingya into Bangladesh.

The language of power

It’s a recurring thing. They caused similar exodus several times in the past and if things go the way they did, more repetitions are likely in the future. Myanmar didn’t take a big part of the past refugees back and has already substantially cleansed northern Rakhine of the Rohingya people.

It’s true that the military option has to come at the end and in combination with diplomatic pressurisation, when there is no other way left. In that too, there are quite a few varieties.

There are some strong reasons as to why Bangladesh should not rule out any variety of the military options.

Firstly, when you have a militarised neighbour who won’t listen to civilised language of diplomacy, they ought to be communicated with the language they understand.

A state that unleashes lethal force on the weakest section of its population will probably listen to the language of power.

Secondly, Bangladesh is four times the size of Myanmar’s economy in terms of nominal GDP and more than twice in purchasing power. With just 1.8% of the country’s GDP going to defense as opposed to Myanmar’s more than 4%, we can afford to increase defense spending without much socio-political backlash.

Myanmar, already a high defense spending country, won’t have much leverage in this regard. Even if Myanmar increases their spending through some jingoistic fervour, it will be unsustainable economically, politically, and internationally in the mid to long term.

A state that unleashes lethal force on the weakest section of its population will probably listen to the language of power

They are already condemned by the international community, barring few countries and in case of any escalation, other than China, its other supporters are likely to desert it — thanks to Myanmar’s long, reclusive, undemocratic, and military-ruled past, including suppression of various minorities throughout its post-colonial history.

Moreover, there are several dozen rebel groups in various corners of Myanmar, most of whom are way stronger than the Rohingya insurgents. The stronger ones hold several thousand square kilometres of free areas.

The old others will definitely take their chance if Tatmadaw gets bogged down in the smaller patch of land in northern Rakhine. Fighting these multifarious ethnic insurgencies in several fronts is a big disadvantage for Tatmadaw.

Fake friends

With regards to international support, materially, India is unlikely to help Myanmar. They would rather be neutral. However, Bangladesh can probably count a bit on the future non-BJP Indian government, which isn’t unlikely after BJP’s demonetisation, GST, and economic growth debacle.

Russia has no ideological or emotional bondage with Myanmar. It just considers Myanmar as a reasonably good buyer of its weapons and armaments. Bangladesh has the capacity to become even a better buyer and hence, it’s possible to lure the Russians away.

Bangladesh will have to enhance its air power, and Russian MIG-29 and Sukhoi are the affordable state-of-the-art multi-role air machines currently available in the international market.

With regards to land force, Bangladesh will need more quality tanks, artillery guns, helicopter gunships etc for the army, and an increase in numbers of the fighting divisions coupled with harder training, just in case they have to face the battle-hardened divisions of Tatmadaw.

The Bangladesh Navy should be able to prevent any attempted naval blockade by the Myanmar navy. However, some tactical additions will be necessary.

The aim of Bangladesh’s defense preparation can still be defensive, but in an adequate way. In that case, the Myanmar army won’t be able to achieve enough force ratio in the Arakan sector to launch any offensive against Bangladesh, if at all, especially after keeping enough force deployed against rebels.

Bangladesh military may not need to do much on its own other than power projection. Natural and widely accepted result of any long persecution and expulsion of a community is insurgency.

The Rohingya already had few such groups in the past and still have one or two small operational ones. Due to the current global anti-jihadi sentiment, a rebel group will enjoy lesser support if they have an Islamic label. This is also the dilemma of Bangladesh, in providing any sort of support to such groups.

Some Rohingya have started to understand this and in future more will probably fall in the line. It is very likely that the secular or moderate ones will take lead in the armed struggle for their rights and enjoy a much greater support from the international community.

Play dirty

An extraordinary and long support from China for Myanmar and similar support for Bangladesh from the Islamic world and the West have the danger of initiating a costly proxy conflict.

However, how far will China go to support an unjust cause has to be analysed especially when it aspires to become the new leader of Asia and join global leadership.

Bangladesh is likely to have the options and leverage at various stages to make the stakes higher or lower, and settle for something suitable at a given time and situation.

Limitations and advantages will be on all sides.

Bangladesh has dealt with the Rohingya issue patiently and with modesty over several decades, notwithstanding the fact that it’s a manipulative creation of Myanmar’s dispensations to cleanse two million ethnic Rohingya population of Rakhine and push them into an already overpopulated Bangladesh.

Bangladesh should know to play dirty, at least at some appropriate stage, if Myanmar keeps playing dirty. It becomes dangerous for a nation when its gentleness is taken as its weakness.

Any form of armed conflict is undesirable, which is otherwise a political problem. However, there are some times of reckoning when ruling out armed retaliation isn’t an option. Clausewitz said many decades back, “Warfare is nothing but continuation of politics by other means.
source: http://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2017/10/03/speaking-language-power/

why are interests of 1 million Rohaniyas taking precedence over 150 million Bangladeshis ?
 
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why are interests of 1 million Rohaniyas taking precedence over 150 million Bangladeshis ?
why are interests of 1 million Rohaniyas taking precedence over 150 million Bangladeshis ?

indians wish to make that an argument BUT that is NOT an argument for Bangladesh or Bangladeshis.
 
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We don't accept Chinese, Chinese disguise as Pakistani or anyone threat for that matter. Go pound sand all we care.

The sad part is, this attitude will only hurt Rohingyas whom you are trying to save, and possibly even Bangladesh as well.
 
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The sad part is, this attitude will only hurt Rohingyas whom you are trying to save, and possibly even Bangladesh as well.

that is horse crap to mask Chinese culpability in Myanmar genocide, we get that. "Smart Alec" act is far too childish. Why Chinese are even bothered what happens or Bangladesh do at this point? They should pursue their interest Bangladesh is not obstructing anything.

attempts to redraw the Myanmar-Bangladesh border is India's concern
india can do what ever it needs to do, why crying and whining here?
 
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BD should not go with US but become a strong independent military power - balance between China and West and cut off all but minimal links with useless India.
China will soon dominate the Asian continent and so BD must not be seen like another Japan or Vietnam in bringing outsiders into Asia.
Actually brother we want to dominate no one. Mutual prosperity is all we care. Sukyi had agreed to take back Rohinyas refugees, there is lot of Chinese work behind that as well. No Muslim country will end up well working with USA, even Saudi Arbia.
 
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