SP Ilyas, three family members gunned down in Quetta

[Falcon26]

It is very easy to blame one party while ignoring the broader picture. You may look at stretched interests and rival's plan to stretch it more. In my opinion, as soon as we are done in Northern areas and completed border security, will see further progress in peace, Law & Order in Baluchistan. The rise in terrorism and attacks like these are actually based upon many factors that involves locals and deluded minds too that sometimes are sell out either for money or due to blind trust with fake religious preachers and even sectarian or ethnic hates. Until & unless local leadership is not present among people and does not speak as such, Military alone will be trying more than before to keep it peaceful but one cannot claim the same as 100% without Civilian support. We cannot put burden upon Military alone but there is also a part, not bigger but still it is, to be played from civilian side.

Understand different prospects as how rival take advantage of the moment from ethnic to sectarian, religious to greedy offer and then it is.



You have quoted a good example of Turkiye here but as to say, currently viewing the situation of country's leadership, one cannot expect such change in overnight as we are handful of many internal issues to deal with at first then we can step ahead as aggressive.

Speaking of aggressive stance against terrorists of any kind, to be honest with, it is all left to Military to deal with whereby active foreign office with aggressive diplomacy is missing in action at all. It is true that we actually lack propaganda machine at large as well and people are merely told yet misled to remain concern with Sharif Family Court Trials as well as Zardari's rant. Political office is totally a disaster at the moment that actually has to support this war and alone, it is not possible that exactly what Politicians are doing deliberately, I must say.

Well put. I hope 2018 elections disrupt the democracy as family business culture so your country can reach its true potential and reassert itself like it should.

 

[The Eagle]

The thing I am saying is that nobody care about Balochistan. And that includes army too. Let me explain it.

Balochistan is facing many different insurgencies. And all are encouraged by our own incompetency and lack of intent.

Quetta is getting hit by terrorists again and again. Sometimes it is police. Sometimes it is FC. Sometimes Hazara. But in past 10 months hardly 5-6 terrorists in all have been killed in LEA operations in Quetta. You can confirm it yourself by collecting data from year 2017 that how many terrorists have been eliminated in Quetta city. Clearly if terrorists are attacking again and again then it is nobrainer that they live in and around Quetta. Their killers like those who attacked SP Ilyas live in Quetta. Their facilitators who helped suicide bomber in attacking AIG Hamid Shakeel live in and around Quetta.

There have been attacks of all sorts in Quetta. Suicide bombings, target killings, sectarian killings. You name it. All have happened. But hardly but a few suspects no terrorist has been killed or arrested. There is no urgency like we saw in the case of Karachi.

One Chaudhry Aslam has killed more terrorists in Karachi than Quetta police can even kill in 10 years. Why? Because clearly we have no intelligence network or counter terror infrastructure in Balochistan. We simply don't care. FC is there. But it is also doing nothing. Compare performance of FC to that of Rangers in Karachi. You would get the answer. There are daily operations even now by Rangers in Karachi but Quetta where we see terror attack in every few days or weeks we see no real operation. No shootouts. No killings of terrorists. No nothing. We just wait for disasters to happen and in between keep patting ourselves on back for CPEC and our "success" in WOT.

KPK also borders Afghanistan. It also borders FATA. But it is very simple to understand that even without any real support from FC KPK police on its own has achieved a lot in its fight against terror. KPK police has killed terrorists. Busted terror networks. Same goes for CTD in Punjab. Same for CTD of Karachi. But in case of Balochistan. Our operations are mostly limited to diffusing bombs placed somewhere or capturing arms and explosives instead of killing terrorists behind planting those bombs or terrorists bringing in those explosives.

Take example of those 15 guys killed in Turbat. It is turbat again. Same turbat that is base camp of Dr Allah Nazar BLF. But what we have done in all this time. We have hardly killed 8-10 BLF terrorists in year 2017. No real action again to completely eliminate this group for good. No operations to bring an end to this monkey group that is limited to a district or two. They keep on attacking again and again here and there. And we keep blaming india and afghanistan calling it a conspiracy against CPEC. Pinning everything on and around CPEC has taken us away from analyzing situation in a realistic manner. Yes India is involved. Yes Afghanistan is also involved. But clearly we are not doing enough to counter challenges that we are facing in Balochistan.

And guess what!!

We wont be doing anything in future either since nobody in Pakistan cares about Balochistan or anything that is happening there. Mark my words. Thy guys involved in murder of those 15 guys in Turbat or killers of SP Ilyas. Well those guys and the groups they belong to don't have much to worry about.

Learn about Indian operation in IOK. Learn how daily they are going after militants. That might give you a good idea. Learning from enemy sometimes is not a bad thing after all.

I will start by saying that actually it is the care that Army today is cleaning the mess created long ago by fake politicians hence, all the mess. If we didn't start it, the picture could have been more worse than what we see, in my opinion.

Try to understand that this war is not with a visible enemy or recognized one that one may search & eliminate. There are many local sellout as well and also, speaking of Op, in my opinion the full fledged is only possible when we are done with Northern areas and then by current process of border security. Until & unless it is not completed, we can expect these happenings however, full results will be shown by time. We cannot stretch further to so many areas that actually depends upon resources at large.

Just look at daily provocation from India Border then read about Indian plans that I am sure, will never miss a chance if had it to hit or create a short time fight so to counter the same in advance, we have to save that side with maximum presence as well.

Now coming to Fata where we are already in fight and close to clean the very few dens left. The success is visible that many terrorists are eliminated and few managed to flee however, now they are trying to show their presence only by hitting at weak spots like in Baluchistan. The enemy strategy is to divide and stretch us more & more that shield may become weaker. Speaking of Karachi or Peshawar, I will say if we can do it Karachi etc than to expect it soon in Baluchistan as well. We started to clean Karachi and succeeded and during those days, we use to say same that when it is going to stop and today we are repeating the same thing about Baluchistan where still, the op is in process. Also, Karachi wasn't an easy access for external forces as compare to Baluchistan and you can understand the complex situation and intrusions from the border as well.

Speaking of dealing with the this maniac quickly or sooner, we can see how come NATO & other powers have been successful despite all the resources on earth. When it comes to compare our position with them and with our past, I can see we have improved a lot as well as succeeded to contain situation much better. We should have done whatever can be and is possible on this earth but one has to see what we have, how could and when to be done depending upon lot of sources that we have. The fight in Baluchistan so bigger than most can imagine and criminals there are not mere some street criminals but vastly supported yet trained by our enemies.

Well put. I hope 2018 elections disrupt the democracy as family business culture so your country can reach its true potential and reassert itself like it should.

Yes, the only chance by way of democracy that I along with many others see in coming days where, I wish & pray that people may vote a Pakistan truly by heart and mind rather the family legacy political culture, Sharif royal dynasty etc cult. We need strong backing from Civilian office as well as supporting economy to further fight and clean the cancer out of country.

 

[Baloch Pakistani]

No solution except a grand operation in Balochistan. And that too without any mercy. It HAS to be done now.

 

[ArcaniusXI]

I sense something terrible brewing in Balochistan. With the recent assassinations and the ads, our enemies are up to something. We need to tighten security near important facilities and give more protection to senior law enforcement and government officials.

 

[American Pakistani]

Army is training FC, you should see Mahaz program by Wajahat S khan on Baluchistan FC, and their Commando's , they are been trained by Army Special Service groups .. but until our political party provide people the opportunities , and Judiciary dont convict and give punishments to renounce terrorist, we cant have complete peace .



Ok whatever you wish to believe .. have a good day

Why arrest terrorists? Just shoot them. Save time and energy.

Since you people are quick to point fingers towards Army and that Civil Government is doing nothing, lets have a look.

The targeted officer belongs to the Police Force, the DIG who was targeted earlier also belonged to the Police. Lets see what Police has its disposal in Baluchistan.

Balochistan Police: 26,965
Balochistan Constabulary: 8,362
Balochistan Levies: 13,000

http://www.balochistanpolice.gov.pk/strength/TotalSstrength.php

Anti-terror training given to Police by Army by 48 FF and 6 AK Regiments of PA. Details are here:
http://www.balochistanpolice.gov.pk/att.php

You can see 41 Infantry Division Formation sign , whose premises have been used in Quetta and SSG have trained them.

https://www.facebook.com/

There is another Anti-terror force in the making, this time training to be given by already trained Police Personnel and will be numbered around 1000.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1366140/balochistan-to-establish-anti-terror-elite-force

Just like PA has its ISI, MI, CMI, FIU...which are all Intelligence units, the Police Force has its own Intelligence unit known as SPECIAL BRANCH. In Urdu we call them, "sufaid kapron wali police" or "Sada kapron wali police". Their job is same as any other intelligence unit and its operations. They monitor activities, mingle in public, keep a low profile, stand on VIP routes, lead police anti-terror ops which is based on intel given by themselves etc.

The killing of DIG and then an SP is a failure of Special Branch, not Pakistan Army's and not the Government. I have provided already the structure, strength and resources which are in place and at disposal. You can go in this link and click on "specialised equipment" to see even 35 APC's included.
http://www.balochistanpolice.gov.pk/logistic.php

Its the intelligence failure of Police's own Intelligence branch that has cost the life of two senior officials. One can imagine what can happen if PA loses two senior Army officials. PA would take action straightaway, ISI/MI would come in motion, arrests would be made and the guilty will be nabbed and precautionary measures will be taken that such situation doesnt arise again.

Pakistan Army doesnt have just Quetta Cantonment, another one is in Khuzdar, and then Army officers are deployed with FC wings throughout Baluchistan. So Army is not just hiding in cantonments, but they have taken many strict security measures to keep their personnel and families safe.

Why is the Police sitting tight even after losing a DIG and gave another chance to terrorists by losing a SP? Government has supported them with personnel and equipment. Army has supported them with training. Army Intelligence units also share Intelligence reports with Police and warn Police before hand of any imminent threat.

If police is not doing their job, Army has to step up. Eliminate terrorism in Balochistan and held police accountable for incompetence. That' what awaam wants.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

My friend, as compare to past, current process through Judiciary and what Courts are doing actually speaks volume about transition from past to good future as present is busy with cleaning the mess. Whosoever, from establishment brought these leeches back, cannot deny or stop how the justice is being served currently. The mess is so big and may take time but not long.

Dear , I understand that we are now to the right path, its slow and painful and sometimes frustrating but something is better then nothing. But my argument is the mess we find today, the establishment cannot wash their hands off and use the corrupt political elite as excuse of the predicament we face as a nation. Those who are/were responsible within establishment, to either facilitate or look the other way , when these political mafia was destroying Pakistan from within, they must be brought to justice as well. Pakistan is bigger then anyone or any institution and those who take it for granted must be dealt with. With great power comes great responsibility.

For any revenge on foreign land, I will repeat, the same needs many resources that includes civilian government backing behind closed doors as to handle pressure and not to be called some kind of rogue military that, in my opinion, current political lot will not miss a chance even to do so. Therefore, under such circumstances, only available options are utilized that few days back COAS visited Afghanistan, also met with US authorities and many others whereby we had good news about hunting many big names of TTP & ISIS. This war wide and being backed by different parties as per their interests and love of proxies where we are almost alone to deal with hence, needs proper arrangement and careful steps and not to be responsible in hurry at all. That is all I can say at the moment.

Inland action is not the concern.

Its the lack of action within the sovereign territory of the enemy nations as a revenge, is a huge cause of concern. When the enemy is relaxed knowing that it wont get bloodied in retaliation, it will keep on getting bold and reckless. Deterrence should work at all levels, strategic, tactical, conventional and sub conventional.

As I said in this post above, the things are getting changed and there is no involvement further as such. Whosoever brought at that time, whosoever means any name, are also gone in history and Pakistan learnt from mistakes hence, doors are closed for any such possibility at all. However, saying the same again & again is not going to do any good further and the process remains here. For such high quality justice system and cleaning, it needs time and cannot be done over night.

Edit: Just today, Global Terrorism Index shows that Pakistan is at fifth and being removed from top 20 most dangerous countries, that actually speaks volume about our efforts in war against terrorism.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/77-c...ected-country-iep.528688/page-2#post-10018863

Mistakes cannot be repeated if an example is made out of those who used and abused their powers to play with the future of the nation, wasted decades of precious time towards nation building, and yet, we still do not know for what gains these crooks were given safe passage to the power corridors in Pakistan?

 

[YeBeWarned]

Why arrest terrorists? Just shoot them. Save time and energy.

even better

 

[The Eagle]

Dear , I understand that we are now to the right path, its slow and painful and sometimes frustrating but something is better then nothing. But my argument is the mess we find today, the establishment cannot wash their hands off and use the corrupt political elite as excuse of the predicament we face as a nation. Those who are/were responsible within establishment, to either facilitate or look the other way , when these political mafia was destroying Pakistan from within, they must be brought to justice as well. Pakistan is bigger then anyone or any institution and those who take it for granted must be dealt with. With great power comes great responsibility.

In short, let us be the great power first to deal with evil of past. Let us be great by way of economy, constitution, politics and many other things that are needed in these times. Not to forget that things are on way to the same what we are emphasizing here but need time. That is what I am saying that may be till it is not done completely, we may find ourselves being angry or hyper from time to time but on other hand, we need to realize and be more careful and see if there is any progress or not.

Inland action is not the concern.

Its the lack of action within the sovereign territory of the enemy nations as a revenge, is a huge cause of concern. When the enemy is relaxed knowing that it wont get bloodied in retaliation, it will keep on getting bold and reckless. Deterrence should work at all levels, strategic, tactical, conventional and sub conventional.

When an enemy nation is sovereign territory, we need to calculate all risks and possible outcome from beneficial to higher risk of damage in return by way of response from the world. Currently, we are showing progress that how many culprits responsible of APS are being dealt against actionable evidence/Intel provided by Pakistan hence, the results. Surely, our Intel has to go more aggressive yet proactive but speaking of as such, we are not aware of circumstances under which the field is being operated or taken care. When it comes to ground reality, everything should be in favour is not necessary however, as per efforts, resources and other elements, in my opinion alone we are doing better as compare to past. That is all I want to say.

All of us want more authentic, secured and strict policy w.r.t. dealing with terrorism and expect zero attacks but on other hand, before making any conclusion or writing off all the efforts while ignoring sacrifices, we must see the other side of coin as well that what could be reason. Saying that it is failed, totally collapsed or incompetent is not justice nor helpful in this situation.

Mistakes cannot be repeated if an example is made out of those who used and abused their powers to play with the future of the nation, wasted decades of precious time towards nation building, and yet, we still do not know for what gains these crooks were given safe passage to the power corridors in Pakistan?

Even same is not subject here but still as part of discussion I, personally will try to share in short and precise manner that many others will understand or can leave it as it is. When it comes to friendly relations, support in difficult and times of need as well as whereby other nation(s) stood with you where none did so then sometimes, not to invite the anger or any economical damage the one has to compromise a bit as compare to the losses in case of not doing so. I am not justifying the actions but still this is how I see and I can be different or wrong as compare to observations of others in this account. When it comes to big names, there encloses a huge pressure and risk of internationally community especially when I am not dependent on foreign support or friendship. As currently, we are getting better and more independent not totally, we all see as culprits are being dealt accordingly.

 

[Signalian]

If police is not doing their job, Army has to step up. Eliminate terrorism in Balochistan and held police accountable for incompetence. That' what awaam wants.

Dont expect Army to provide security to Police Officers, which is the issue at hand.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

When an enemy nation is sovereign territory, we need to calculate all risks and possible outcome from beneficial to higher risk of damage in return by way of response from the world. Currently, we are showing progress that how many culprits responsible of APS are being dealt against actionable evidence/Intel provided by Pakistan hence, the results. Surely, our Intel has to go more aggressive yet proactive but speaking of as such, we are not aware of circumstances under which the field is being operated or taken care. When it comes to ground reality, everything should be in favour is not necessary however, as per efforts, resources and other elements, in my opinion alone we are doing better as compare to past. That is all I want to say.

All of us want more authentic, secured and strict policy w.r.t. dealing with terrorism and expect zero attacks but on other hand, before making any conclusion or writing off all the efforts while ignoring sacrifices, we must see the other side of coin as well that what could be reason. Saying that it is failed, totally collapsed or incompetent is not justice nor helpful in this situation.

Our deterrence on sub conventional level has failed only because we are not responding in kind while the enemy nations are hitting us with impunity inside our sovereign land. That is why I have a huge respect for the establishment of 80s who had zero tolerance in this regard. we have made plenty of noise about foreign hostile Intel agencies causing terrorism in Pakistan and time was yesterday to act against them in their own den, in their own sovereign land, yet we see no action. The cost of waging fourth generation war against Pakistan must be raised exponentially not in terms of money but suffering and pain for the enemy nations while exploiting their internal vulnerabilities.

 

[The Eagle]

Our deterrence on sub conventional level has failed only because we are not responding in kind while the enemy nations are hitting us with impunity inside our sovereign land. That is why I have a huge respect for the establishment of 80s who had zero tolerance in this regard. we have made plenty of noise about foreign hostile Intel agencies causing terrorism in Pakistan and time was yesterday to act against them in their own den, in their own sovereign land, yet we see no action. The cost of waging fourth generation war against Pakistan must be raised exponentially not in terms of money but suffering and pain for the enemy nations while exploiting their internal vulnerabilities.

In my opinion and observation much has been changed as compare to 80s. At that time threat was not that larges and but consequences that we have today are different to past. Currently, there are many players as well as much resources for them backing while we are limited which is a key for that strategy. We cannot rule out economic factor in this regard as these things are not come kind of free lunch. A lot spending is needed with aggressive diplomacy from political level. Speaking of 80s, we need to compare country's situation and count the political clowns as well. Geopolitics have changed a lot and we see a different and more threatened region due to proxies in dozen. When the number of enemies in shape of proxies increased while economy remains as old one then eventually, the damage is to be expected more than before and that has been the plan for Pakistan even by the so-called friends as well. Pakistan standing with regional powers, improving more ties than seasonal friend is the seed that may give us fruit but after due time.

Just look at how enemy is spending a lot of money to carry on such warfare whereby, we are just getting ourselves in progressive mode per economic condition. This is warfare contains the money factor as part & parcel of strategy that economically weak cannot stand against. In our case, we are firstly containing the situation with better yet available sources so I would hope too for the strategy that we need as compare to what we are doing. If the rival is spending near 500 Millions dollar in a game then how much shall we expect ourselves in hand to counter and go proactive then calculate with whatever we have. In these circumstances, I see a better position that we improved against terrorist attacks in past and are out of top 20 dangerous countries which is an achievement to be credited largely.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Indeed savage and barabaric.

These BLA and BLF terrorists must be caught and executed.

These bloody terrorists.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

In my opinion and observation much has been changed as compare to 80s. At that time threat was not that larges and but consequences that we have today are different to past. Currently, there are many players as well as much resources for them backing while we are limited which is a key for that strategy. We cannot rule out economic factor in this regard as these things are not come kind of free lunch. A lot spending is needed with aggressive diplomacy from political level. Speaking of 80s, we need to compare country's situation and count the political clowns as well. Geopolitics have changed a lot and we see a different and more threatened region due to proxies in dozen. When the number of enemies in shape of proxies increased while economy remains as old one then eventually, the damage is to be expected more than before and that has been the plan for Pakistan even by the so-called friends as well. Pakistan standing with regional powers, improving more ties than seasonal friend is the seed that may give us fruit but after due time.

Just look at how enemy is spending a lot of money to carry on such warfare whereby, we are just getting ourselves in progressive mode per economic condition. This is warfare contains the money factor as part & parcel of strategy that economically weak cannot stand against. In our case, we are firstly containing the situation with better yet available sources so I would hope too for the strategy that we need as compare to what we are doing. If the rival is spending near 500 Millions dollar in a game then how much shall we expect ourselves in hand to counter and go proactive then calculate with whatever we have. In these circumstances, I see a better position that we improved against terrorist attacks in past and are out of top 20 dangerous countries which is an achievement to be credited largely.

I would respectfully disagree here. In 80s, we were not a nuke and missile power, China though a good friend was hardly anywhere on the geopolitical scene, India as usual was breathing down on our neck on eastern front and its ally, the bear of soviet Union on western flanks. It was far worse scenario then we are facing today. YET the establishment of 80s drew a very thick red line which if crossed will warrant immediate response. Under no circumstances, terrorism of any kind on Pakistani territory should be tolerated and should be replied immediately utilizing enemy nations internal vulnerabilities.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I don't think so it is what it seems. The matter has been discussed with the hosts in details. For reference, one can read about COAS visits to many countries very recently that includes Iran, Afghanistan and UAE as well as KSA. These visits must have discussed the subject among other issues.



The form of terrorism could be in any label from sectarian to hostile agencies though, our agencies seems like alone and 1 V/s many that need local support which actually depends upon people believe in leaders as well. Military alone cannot visit areas and educate people but there is a gape that I see, between civil & military w.r.t. dealing in Baluchistan. Sir, don't you think that it can be more peaceful but once we are done with northern area Op and after securing the border as I fell, till then, the thing will be happening.

the assassination of this family and the abduction and murder of 15 punjabi youth in trubet after torture is planned by same group or its just a convenient coincidence for the enemies of Pakistan that want to show Balochistan a dangerous place where the state is helpless and clueless on how to tackle the hostile agencies and their proxies.

as I feared or expected. the agencies conducted a "search operation" and apprehended unknown number of locals and claimed to kill a member/ leader of a banned outfit once again we are shy in naming Laskher Jhangvi or sipah sahabah in Balochistan if the terrorism is not done by BLA. the Baloch chapter of these sectarian outfits is extremely violent but as a neutral person who is not dogged by shia sunni schism.. I see that our our law enforcement agencies show a hesitation when dealing with sectarian terrorists who in the past have openly celebrated double centuries in their public gatherings in quetta when in 2012 or 2013 they killed over 200 members of shia community mainly hazara in two back to back attacks soon after the Gen Kyani made a fateful claim that terrorism has be curtailed

expect a a string of small scale attacks or major ones soon after Gen Bajwa will make a claim and then will be slapped with the deaths of civilians and his own men.

our agencies cant win this war. its down to our clergy and our political leaders prominent members of society that can defeat these terrorists because it is people like us who are knowingly hiding these terrorists, funding them feeding them giving them place to live and sleep.

 

[The Eagle]

I would respectfully disagree here. In 80s, we were not a nuke and missile power, China though a good friend was hardly anywhere on the geopolitical scene, India as usual was breathing down on our neck on eastern front and its ally, the bear of soviet Union on western flanks. It was far worse scenario then we are facing today. YET the establishment of 80s drew a very thick red line which if crossed will warrant immediate response. Under no circumstances, terrorism of any kind on Pakistani territory should be tolerated and should be replied immediately utilizing enemy nations internal vulnerabilities.

No issue on disagreement between us on this issue here as you, me and all are to discuss it for possible yet beneficial outcome. With reference to 80s strong line and all you must see that how political office was strong enough having no foreign interests. What we see today is like always to go covertly and do not expect anything better from PM or so office in support of as such. Lines are drawn when all stand together and today's public leaders are not worthy nor even interested as such hence, the terrorists especially that are living upon public support by any mean are taking advantage. The moment we had our leaders among us, security tightened with full go ahead and backing, the enemy for sure will think thousand times before doing so knowing that how the response is.

Today, not all but specific set of so-called candle mafia or activists are not even talking about barbaric act but are consistently misleading and misrepresenting the issue through different channels of communication whereby, political government corrupt itself doesn't have the guts to put strong and strict measures. This is not about tolerating the terrorism or not but it is more about that only specific institute is standing up-to the same as such.

the assassination of this family and the abduction and murder of 15 punjabi youth in trubet after torture is planned by same group or its just a convenient coincidence for the enemies of Pakistan that want to show Balochistan a dangerous place where the state is helpless and clueless on how to tackle the hostile agencies and their proxies.

as I feared or expected. the agencies conducted a "search operation" and apprehended unknown number of locals and claimed to kill a member/ leader of a banned outfit once again we are shy in naming Laskher Jhangvi or sipah sahabah in Balochistan if the terrorism is not done by BLA. the Baloch chapter of these sectarian outfits is extremely violent but as a neutral person who is not dogged by shia sunni schism.. I see that our our law enforcement agencies show a hesitation when dealing with sectarian terrorists who in the past have openly celebrated double centuries in their public gatherings in quetta when in 2012 or 2013 they killed over 200 members of shia community mainly hazara in two back to back attacks soon after the Gen Kyani made a fateful claim that terrorism has be curtailed

expect a a string of small scale attacks or major ones soon after Gen Bajwa will make a claim and then will be slapped with the deaths of civilians and his own men.

our agencies cant win this war. its down to our clergy and our political leaders prominent members of society that can defeat these terrorists because it is people like us who are knowingly hiding these terrorists, funding them feeding them giving them place to live and sleep.

Well input Sir. Agencies alone cannot do much until & unless public leaders are here to lead the people and let them know the difference between right or wrong. However, ironically, most of the leaders themselves are hiding from public for the lies they uttered for vote and then never fulfilled those promises Military/LEAs can fight the terrorists and criminals but cannot run the business which is totally responsibility of the political office to make people mind. Unfortunately, in case of Baluchistan, people were left all alone hopeless and helpless by depriving their life living rights, waiting for anyone to get on their mind in the name of rights and that is where a narrative started to build among people. If the same people had the correct one to lead and inform, the situation could have been far better than what we are sorrowing upon today.

Speaking of naming so & so organization openly can be more of issue w.r.t. public awareness and leadership. Such kind of brands actually talk about the right and all the deprivation by the leaders which itself the creation due to negligence and incompetence at public office. Therefore, naming them in these will actually give them more room to practice hatred among already deluded masses. Here it is the point that public leaders as to come forward, serve the people for which they are appointed and guide them about the right thing so then as & when the correct narrative is built, the truth be told openly which at the moment wouldn't impact that much due to leaders missing in action.