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SEOUL—Soon after North Korea detonated a nuclear bomb last week, South Korea’s defense minister sought an emergency call with his Chinese counterpart.

A hotline had recently been created as part of an array of new agreements by Seoul and Beijing to increase their links. But the call request received no response, a South Korean official said.

On Wednesday, South Korean President Park Geun-hye gave another indication that her gambit of forging closer links with China to rein in Pyongyang continues to face tests, calling publicly for Beijing to take strong punitive action against its volatile neighbor. “The best partners are those who will hold your hand in difficult times,” Ms. Park said in a speech.

Her appeal to China came on a day of low-level confrontation between the two Koreas. Seoul’s military said a small flying object, likely a drone, traveled a few meters over the border from North Korea Wednesday afternoon but turned back after warning shots were fired at it. The two sides continued to blast propaganda messages at each other through speaker systems at their border.

South Korea, like many other countries, sees China as a pivotal figure in blunting North Korea’s military adventurism. Beijing supplies almost all of Pyongyang’s oil and has close trade and military links with the impoverished state. (China’s foreign and defense ministries didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment on the hotline call.)

Eyeing that leverage, Ms. Park made a strategic bet soon after taking office in 2013 to foster close ties with Beijing. She has met with Chinese President Xi Jinping six times, most recently as the only leader of a U.S. ally to attend a Chinese military parade in September. The two nations have pledged wide-ranging cooperation in areas from economic deals to cultural exchanges.

That approach is now under scrutiny as Ms. Park seeks strong penalties against North Korea.

“Ms. Park’s focus on bolstering diplomatic ties with China ended up making her other allies suspicious of Seoul’s intentions. Now, Seoul suddenly finds itself in a position where it must change its entire diplomatic approach,” South Korea’s biggest circulation newspaper, Chosun Ilbo, wrote in an editorial.

In her televised speech on Wednesday, Ms. Park said China should prove its resolve not to tolerate nuclear proliferation. Inaction would lead to further nuclear tests by North Korea, undermining peace and stability in the region, she said.

“I do believe China will play a necessary role as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council,” Ms. Park said.
 
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The SK lady should shut up.

PLA 39th group army is waiting to liberate Seoul again.

Dec.2015 somewhere near China - North Korea boarder

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Stop being an American vassal state and allowing an American base and missile defences targeting China, then China might take tough line against North Korea.

Until that happens, North Korea can do whatever it wants.

Funny paradox, the more China supports North Korea, the less it will be able to change economic relations into political relations, but push too hard and a collapse could leave American troops on your border.

It's a delicate balancing act, and North Korea's nuclear test just makes it even more complicated for China.8-)

Frankly you can keep your soft line on north Korea, in private it is geopolitically beneficial for us and a pain in the a$$ for China's foreign policy.:-)
 
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Funny paradox, the more China supports North Korea, the less it will be able to change economic relations into political relations, but push too hard and a collapse could leave American troops on your border.

It's a delicate balancing act, and North Korea's nuclear test just makes it even more complicated for China.8-)

Frankly you can keep your soft line on north Korea, in private it is geopolitically beneficial for us and a pain in the a$$ for China's foreign policy.:-)

@j20blackdragon explained why North Korea doing what it's doing is good for China.
 
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@j20blackdragon explained why North Korea doing what it's doing is good for China.

Indeed, this is a good opportunity to set up ABM which China is condemning South Korea to allow the U.S. to setup.

US Official Dismisses China's THAAD Concerns

SEOUL, South Korea — A senior US official on Tuesday brushed off Beijing's objection to the possible deployment of a US missile defense system in South Korea, saying North Korea's missile program poses a "significant threat."

The comments by US Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Russel, who is visiting Seoul, came after China's Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs Liu Jianchao expressed concern on Monday over the idea of a US missile defense system on South Korean soil.

Liu's statement followed similar comments made by Chinese Defence Minister Chang Wanquan during his visit to Seoul last month. China sees the system as designed to curb its own military might.


"I find it curious that a third country would presume to make strong presentations about a security system that has not been put in place and that is still a matter of theory," Russel told journalists after meeting with South Korean Deputy Foreign Minister Lee Kyung-Soo.

US military authorities say they have conducted "informal studies" to find suitable sites for a possible future deployment of a Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery. But they have stressed that no decisions have been made to deploy such a system.

Russel said South Korea and the United States face a "significant threat from North Korea's growing ballistic missile program," which he said the North pursues in violation of international laws.

"Our military authorities have responsibility to consider systems that would protect Republic of Korea (South Korea) citizens, protect the United States from that threat."

"How they do it when they do it is something that the experts will have to determine but I think that it is for the Republic of Korea to decide what measures it will take in its own alliance defense," he added.

Walking a diplomatic tight rope between China and the United States, South Korea remains ambivalent on the sensitive security issue, saying there have been neither consultations with the United States nor a decision on the matter.

South Korea's Defence Ministry Spokesman Kim Min-Seok on Tuesday condemned China's attempt to "influence" South Korea's security policy.


"Neighbors can have their own positions on the (possible) deployment of the THAAD system here by the US Forces Korea. But they should not try to influence our security policy," the spokesman told a regular briefing.

He didn't mention China by name, but the message was clear.

US Missile Defense in South Korea ‘Concerns’ China | The Diplomat

The United States has long been considering the installation of a Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system in South Korea, a close U.S. ally. Unfortunately, the proposition is unacceptable to China. Earlier this week, Beijing once again vocalized its opposition to the United States’ interest in moving forward with the sensitive THAAD system. According to Defense News, Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan expressed his “concern” at the U.S. proposal to his South Korean counterpart at a meeting in Seoul. The South Korean defense minister attempted to assuage Chang’s concerns by reminding the Chinese defense minister that no formal discussions about THAAD deployment have taken place. Though South Korea is a U.S. ally, it has been reluctant to welcome a THAAD deployment at the risk of threatening China and Russia — both countries with which South Korea has amicable relations. THAAD, meanwhile, could become a crucial peg in the U.S. regional missile defense system as part of its strategic “rebalance” to Asia.

NK condemns U.S. plans to bring THAAD to South Korea | NK News - North Korea News

State media calls United States the ‘wrecker of strategic equilibrium’

North Korea’s Rodong Sinmun newspaper criticized the United States’ ambitions to bring in a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system into South Korea in an editorial on Tuesday.

Accusing the U.S. of trying to “overpower the neighboring big powers” the editorial argued that the move was part of a U.S. military strategy designed to “pressurize potential challengers in the region, China in particular.”

Referring to the recent Ulchi Freedom Guardian exercises, which provoked criticisms from the DPRK, the article further accused the U.S. for exacerbating military tensions on the peninsula.

“It is none other than the U.S. that deployed large quantities of nukes and missiles in and around South Korea, and is kicking up war exercise rackets with an undisguised intention to launch a preemptive attack on the DPRK,” said the article. “The U.S. maneuver to build the MD in south Korea greatly endangers the situation of the Korean peninsula and other parts of Northeast Asia.”


North Korean media typically lower-cases the “s” in “South Korea” in reflection of the belief that the two Koreas are one country.

A THAAD system in South Korea would be a step towards a regionally cooperative missile defense (MD) network in Asia, which the U.S. hopes to establish with the help of South Korea and Japan.

But China and Russia have both voiced opposition, which many analysts say is likely being factored into South Korea’s hesitance to move forward with the U.S. proposal.

THAAD’s X-Band radar technology in particular is a major sticking point for neighboring China and Russia, according to experts. By tracking missile activity over a range of up to 1,000 kilometers, transportable X-band radar in effect compromises neighboring countries’ long-distance missile delivery capabilities.


“The U.S. is trying to draw south Korea into its MD in an attempt to tighten the siege around China and thus increase the effect of its strike on the other side to the utmost while reducing its damage to the minimum,” the Rodong editorial said.

“An evidence of it is the fact that X-Band radar to be operated together with THAAD in south Korea ranges 1 000 km covering the major regions of China.”

Chinese President Xi Jinping reportedly asked South Korean President Park Geun-hye to “tread carefully” in regards to the issue at summit talks between the two countries in early July, according to the Yonhap News Agency.

Although South Korea requested information on the THAAD from the Pentagon late last year, Seoul has held the position that they have no plans to purchase any THAAD systems in the near future, citing high costs and plans to further update its Korea Air and Missile Defense (KAMD) system.

Still, the Rodong said the deployment “demands the DPRK further bolster up its war deterrent for regional peace and security.

“We will in the future too, as in the past, make every effort possible for peace and security of the Korean peninsula and other regions of Northeast Asia.”
 
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Indeed, this is a good opportunity to set up ABM which China is condemning South Korea to allow the U.S. to setup.

US Official Dismisses China's THAAD Concerns

SEOUL, South Korea — A senior US official on Tuesday brushed off Beijing's objection to the possible deployment of a US missile defense system in South Korea, saying North Korea's missile program poses a "significant threat."

The comments by US Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Russel, who is visiting Seoul, came after China's Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs Liu Jianchao expressed concern on Monday over the idea of a US missile defense system on South Korean soil.

Liu's statement followed similar comments made by Chinese Defence Minister Chang Wanquan during his visit to Seoul last month. China sees the system as designed to curb its own military might.


"I find it curious that a third country would presume to make strong presentations about a security system that has not been put in place and that is still a matter of theory," Russel told journalists after meeting with South Korean Deputy Foreign Minister Lee Kyung-Soo.

US military authorities say they have conducted "informal studies" to find suitable sites for a possible future deployment of a Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery. But they have stressed that no decisions have been made to deploy such a system.

Russel said South Korea and the United States face a "significant threat from North Korea's growing ballistic missile program," which he said the North pursues in violation of international laws.

"Our military authorities have responsibility to consider systems that would protect Republic of Korea (South Korea) citizens, protect the United States from that threat."

"How they do it when they do it is something that the experts will have to determine but I think that it is for the Republic of Korea to decide what measures it will take in its own alliance defense," he added.

Walking a diplomatic tight rope between China and the United States, South Korea remains ambivalent on the sensitive security issue, saying there have been neither consultations with the United States nor a decision on the matter.

South Korea's Defence Ministry Spokesman Kim Min-Seok on Tuesday condemned China's attempt to "influence" South Korea's security policy.


"Neighbors can have their own positions on the (possible) deployment of the THAAD system here by the US Forces Korea. But they should not try to influence our security policy," the spokesman told a regular briefing.

He didn't mention China by name, but the message was clear.

US Missile Defense in South Korea ‘Concerns’ China | The Diplomat

The United States has long been considering the installation of a Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system in South Korea, a close U.S. ally. Unfortunately, the proposition is unacceptable to China. Earlier this week, Beijing once again vocalized its opposition to the United States’ interest in moving forward with the sensitive THAAD system. According to Defense News, Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan expressed his “concern” at the U.S. proposal to his South Korean counterpart at a meeting in Seoul. The South Korean defense minister attempted to assuage Chang’s concerns by reminding the Chinese defense minister that no formal discussions about THAAD deployment have taken place. Though South Korea is a U.S. ally, it has been reluctant to welcome a THAAD deployment at the risk of threatening China and Russia — both countries with which South Korea has amicable relations. THAAD, meanwhile, could become a crucial peg in the U.S. regional missile defense system as part of its strategic “rebalance” to Asia.

NK condemns U.S. plans to bring THAAD to South Korea | NK News - North Korea News

State media calls United States the ‘wrecker of strategic equilibrium’

North Korea’s Rodong Sinmun newspaper criticized the United States’ ambitions to bring in a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system into South Korea in an editorial on Tuesday.

Accusing the U.S. of trying to “overpower the neighboring big powers” the editorial argued that the move was part of a U.S. military strategy designed to “pressurize potential challengers in the region, China in particular.”

Referring to the recent Ulchi Freedom Guardian exercises, which provoked criticisms from the DPRK, the article further accused the U.S. for exacerbating military tensions on the peninsula.

“It is none other than the U.S. that deployed large quantities of nukes and missiles in and around South Korea, and is kicking up war exercise rackets with an undisguised intention to launch a preemptive attack on the DPRK,” said the article. “The U.S. maneuver to build the MD in south Korea greatly endangers the situation of the Korean peninsula and other parts of Northeast Asia.”


North Korean media typically lower-cases the “s” in “South Korea” in reflection of the belief that the two Koreas are one country.

A THAAD system in South Korea would be a step towards a regionally cooperative missile defense (MD) network in Asia, which the U.S. hopes to establish with the help of South Korea and Japan.

But China and Russia have both voiced opposition, which many analysts say is likely being factored into South Korea’s hesitance to move forward with the U.S. proposal.

THAAD’s X-Band radar technology in particular is a major sticking point for neighboring China and Russia, according to experts. By tracking missile activity over a range of up to 1,000 kilometers, transportable X-band radar in effect compromises neighboring countries’ long-distance missile delivery capabilities.


“The U.S. is trying to draw south Korea into its MD in an attempt to tighten the siege around China and thus increase the effect of its strike on the other side to the utmost while reducing its damage to the minimum,” the Rodong editorial said.

“An evidence of it is the fact that X-Band radar to be operated together with THAAD in south Korea ranges 1 000 km covering the major regions of China.”

Chinese President Xi Jinping reportedly asked South Korean President Park Geun-hye to “tread carefully” in regards to the issue at summit talks between the two countries in early July, according to the Yonhap News Agency.

Although South Korea requested information on the THAAD from the Pentagon late last year, Seoul has held the position that they have no plans to purchase any THAAD systems in the near future, citing high costs and plans to further update its Korea Air and Missile Defense (KAMD) system.

Still, the Rodong said the deployment “demands the DPRK further bolster up its war deterrent for regional peace and security.

“We will in the future too, as in the past, make every effort possible for peace and security of the Korean peninsula and other regions of Northeast Asia.”

Even without NK, the THAAD will be there.

Better NK have nukes than not have nukes.
 
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Funny paradox, the more China supports North Korea, the less it will be able to change economic relations into political relations, but push too hard and a collapse could leave American troops on your border.

It's a delicate balancing act, and North Korea's nuclear test just makes it even more complicated for China.8-)

Frankly you can keep your soft line on north Korea, in private it is geopolitically beneficial for us and a pain in the a$$ for China's foreign policy.:-)

Actually, this is their stated intention in the event of a collapse:

North Korea threatens to 'leave no Americans alive' - The Independent

That seems like a much more likely scenario than your fairy tale of an American occupation of North Korea. Unless you think those Hydrogen bombs will just disappear into thin air? :no:
 
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So S.K needs China after all... :pleasantry:


Apparently you could be right bro, judging from the result.

On Wednesday, South Korean President Park Geun-hye gave another indication that her gambit of forging closer links with China to rein in Pyongyang continues to face tests, calling publicly for Beijing to take strong punitive action against its volatile neighbor. “The best partners are those who will hold your hand in difficult times,” Ms. Park said in a speech.


Wonder what's making this happen? Hmmmm never mind, the result is just very very good.
 
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