South China Sea Forum

[deep hacker here]

why china hates vietnam vietnam is such a peacefull place, i can understand hating japan usa but vietnam. why

Come on, making nuke is too much for your coconut brain.

coconut and u have testicle size.

 

[VietHome]

Anyone bragging about using Nuclear Weapon on other people when he/she loses moral arguments is a complete waste of intellectual knowledge privileged upon him/her. Chickenhawk school yard bullies talk big when they are not the one fighting in a war. Chinese Party's member families, capitalist princes/princesses will gloat about obliterating other countries while unemployed city dwellers and rural peasants are the ones dying.

Fighting is not all about strength; it's about guts. A fail boy may die from beating but he will make sure to bite off a finger from the fat bully. That's why throughout their history, Chinese imperials hate Vietnam the most. It's like a thorn on their sight that continues to exist despite their repeated attempts to subjugate. After all, Vietnam is a road block preventing Chinese empire from expanding to South Asia. Again, it's all about guts my friends. When you are ready to kill someone, you must be ready to die as well. If the US, France, and Japan had read Vietnam's history with China, they would have prevented defeats in this land.

That said, China has a very lousy record of conquests. Back to the fat bully analogy earlier, they always ended up being conquered by smaller nations. From Mongolia, Manchuria, European countries to Japan, "heavenly empire" is nothing but a legend in their own mind. I would not say China is a paper tiger, but Vietnam or any other countries have nothing to be scared of. We only need to keep keen eyes on them. As history has shown, big mouth up North is just good at talking.

 

[Sasquatch]

Alright get back on the actual topic, I will start handing out infractions after this.

 

[cirr]

CMS 8003 by XJS almost at the ready：

for some fun in the SCS。

This 650-tonne “minnow” is big enough for monkeys in the said region。

 

[Viet]

Vietnam Navy missile boats visit to ZhangJiang military port of PRC

 

[jhungary]

Vietnam Navy missile boats visit to ZhangJiang military port of PRC

Did I see it right or the Vietnamese boat hoisting a Chinese flag on its ship mast??? I think it's not allowed under international rules....

 

[EastSea]

US sailors hang up a Vietnamese flag atop a visiting destoryer in 2010.

US Navy says no S.China Sea link to Vietnam visit

 

[Malaya]

U.S. backs ASEAN on Code of Conduct and reaffirms support for PHL arbitration move
A May 6, 2013, press release from the Department of Foreign Affairs

Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs for Policy Evan P. Garcia (4th from left) with US and ASEAN Senior Officials, including Acting Assistant Secretary Joseph Yun of the U.S. State Department (7th from left), US Ambassador to ASEAN David Carden, (6th from left) and Director-General for ASEAN Affairs of Myanmar U Aung Lynn (5th from left).

ASEAN and United States Senior Officials met in Washington DC last May 2-3 to deepen ASEAN-U.S. cooperation and discuss regional and international developments at the 26th ASEAN-U.S. Dialogue. The U.S. and Myanmar served as Co-Chairs of the meeting.

Discussion on South China Sea and Code of Conduct

Senior Officials exchanged views on the South China Sea and other maritime disputes. ASEAN countries reaffirmed ASEAN’s Six Point Principles on the South China Sea and briefed the U.S. on their efforts to move forward to develop a legally binding Code of Conduct (COC) with China. The United States expressed support for ASEAN’s collective efforts on the COC.

Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs for Policy Evan P. Garcia said the need for a COC was made more urgent by recent developments in the West Philippine Sea. He stated that despite the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) and calls by ASEAN and Dialogue Partners to exercise restraint and avoid any action that will escalate tension, “concerns regarding destabilizing activities remain.”

U.S. supports arbitration as a means of peaceful settlement of disputes in accordance with international law

Undersecretary Garcia also gave an update on the Philippines’ recourse to international arbitration under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), citing that it “is rooted in good global citizenship and will benefit all parties as it will clarify maritime entitlements under UNCLOS.” He added that this “will help assure peace, security and stability in the region and contribute to its continued economic growth and prosperity.”

The U.S. emphasized the importance of upholding the rule of international law in the South China Sea and opposed the use or threat of force to advance claims in the region.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns, as well as Mr. Joseph Yun, Acting Assistant Secretary for East Asia and head of the U.S. delegation to the ASEAN-U.S. Dialogue, reaffirmed the right of any state to use mechanisms under international law for the peaceful and just settlement of disputes, including arbitration.

“The Philippines welcomes the support of the U.S. and other countries for our efforts to resolve outstanding issues in the West Philippine Sea through peaceful means and consistent with the rule of law and our obligations under UNCLOS,” said Undersecretary Garcia.

“The zeal of the Philippines to conclude a Code of Conduct has not changed. This is not inconsistent with our arbitration efforts. In fact, these are mutually supportive of each other as both are deeply rooted in the rule of law and the peaceful settlement of international disputes,” the Undersecretary pointed out.

The meeting also discussed preparations for the ASEAN Post Ministerial Conference with the US and ASEAN-US Leaders’ Summit scheduled later this year.

ASEAN-US dialogue relations were established in 1977. Starting with discussions on political and security matters in its early stages, the dialogue has expanded to other issues such as climate change, biodiversity, food and energy security, disaster risk reduction, and maritime security.

dfa.gov.ph


U.S. backs ASEAN on Code of Conduct and reaffirms support for PHL arbitration move | Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines

 

[Nike]

wow vietnam has so many military muscles at their hands

 

[HongWu]

China spanks Vietnam at Mischief Reef!

 

[Soryu]

Did I see it right or the Vietnamese boat hoisting a Chinese flag on its ship mast??? I think it's not allowed under international rules....

Like I know, It's normal action. When you go to other countries's territorial waters, you have two flags on your ship, one is your nation flag, other is that country flag.

 

[Viet]

Pictured: U.S. Navy Captain James Fanell, deputy chief of staff for intelligence and information operations, US Pacific Fleet


“They are taking control of maritime areas that have never been administered or controlled in the last 5,000 years by any regime called China,” said Capt. James Fanell, deputy chief of staff for intelligence and information operations at the US Pacific fleet headquarters in Hawaii.

He said China’s navy was using “civil proxy” maritime security ships to advance Beijing’s sovereignty claims.

“They now regularly challenge exclusive economic-zone resource rights that South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia and Vietnam once thought were guaranteed to them by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,” Fanell told a defense conference in San Diego.

 

[EastSea]

China spanks Vietnam at Mischief Reef!

cowardice Chinese, you dare not show the boat identification number.

 

[Malaya]

SolGen: We want legal, not just moral, victory in West PHL Sea row

The Philippines will not settle for just a "moral victory" in the latest chapter of its territorial row with China over parts of the West Philippine Sea.

Philippine Solicitor General Francis Jardeleza stressed this as he discussed the matter with academics in the United States, the Department of Foreign Affairs said Sunday.

“It would be in the international community’s overall interest to persuade China to respect such decision, since the repudiation would only hurt the system of international law on which countries both powerful and weak rely,” he said, according to an article posted on the DFA website.

Jardeleza was also quoted in the DFA article as saying the Philippines "is seeking a legal, and not just a moral, victory."

He stressed these points in response to questions on what options the Philippines could take if it wins a judgment that may be ignored by China.

The Solicitor General spoke at events at Harvard University, New York University (NYU) and the Council on Foreign Relations, a leading Manhattan-based think tank, on the Philippines’ maritime arbitration case against China in the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea (ITLOS).

Jardeleza visited Harvard University on April 23, and NYU and the Council on Foreign Relations on April 24.

"Many of the academics applauded the Philippines’ recourse to the rule of law, led by Professor Jerome Cohen of NYU who is a leading American expert on Chinese law," the DFA said.

Jardeleza contested China’s interpretation and application of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), specifically its nine-dash line claim.

He said the nine-dash line claim interferes with the exercise by the Philippines of its sovereign rights and jurisdiction in its exclusive economic zone and continental shelf.

Also, Jardeleza reiterated the Philippines’ overriding position that resort to arbitration is “a form of peaceful settlement of disputes.”

He said the outcome could benefit the Philippines, China, as well as the region and the world, by contributing to the predictability of interstate relations through the common standards set by UNCLOS, to which both countries are parties.

“Our meetings this week with the leading academic communities, while informal, was very informative, convivial and interactive,” he said.

ASEAN role

Jardeleza said the Philippines also relies on the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, of which it is a member, to help resolve the issue.

“Our ASEAN partners have always known and acknowledged that taking a legal, in addition to a diplomatic, approach is a sovereign option. This was brought to bear last year when the Philippines was having a hard time gaining ASEAN’s consensus on the matter,” he said. — BM, GMA News

SolGen: We want legal, not just moral, victory in West PHL Sea row | News | GMA News Online

 

[Viet]

Let see if the Chinese dare to harass the Russian bear?


Russian ship surveys Truong Sa

Updated : 5/5/2013 6:05:17 PM Voice of Vietnam

(VOV) - The ship Academician Oparin from the Russian Academy of Sciences left Nha Trang city to survey Vietnamese waters including the Truong Sa (Spratly) island district in the central province of Khanh Hoa.

The two month fact-finding trip involves 22 Russian scientists and 12 scientists from the Vietnam Academy of Science and Technology (VAST) who will survey the sea areas in Vietnam.

Launched in 1985, the 73 meter long, 15 meter wide Academician Oparin is specially designed for scientific oceanic research and functions as a mobile laboratory at sea.

VAST Chairman Professor Dr Chau Van Minh said this is the fourth time the ship has visited Vietnam to conduct a comprehensive survey on the biodiversity and biochemical makeup of the East Sea, which could help protect Vietnam’s sovereignty over its seas and islands.