South China Sea Forum

[qwerrty]

Americans seem very angry.

yeah, i see a lot angry comments on american media websites. most of 'em probably typing angily from their chinese made phones in front of walmart stores wearing china-made clothes, shoes, etc..

 

[Daniel808]

With this case, I must Admit.
China's Navy ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare) Capability is very Good.

2 Thumbs up for China's ASW Capability.

 

[F-22Raptor]

With this case, I must Admit.
China's Navy ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare) Capability is very Good.

2 Thumbs up for China's ASW Capability.

The USNS Bowditch was picking up 2 UUVs that had already completed their mission. They were both waiting on the surface of the water when one was stolen by the Chinese. This had nothing to do with ASW.

 

[Akasa]

Sometimes when you are playing in somebody else's backyard, your stuff gets jacked.

That's just the way it goes.

International waters, 160 km off the Philippines' Subic Bay, is certainly not China's "backyard", geographically or politically.

The USNS Bowditch was picking up 2 UUVs that had already completed their mission. They were both waiting on the surface of the water when one was stolen by the Chinese. This had nothing to do with ASW.

Unfortunately, the Obama administration would probably draw another of their famed "red lines", like they did against the Russians and Syrians for the DNC hack & civil war, respectively.

 

[gambit]

Unfortunately, the Obama administration would probably draw another of their famed "red lines", like they did against the Russians and Syrians for the DNC hack & civil war, respectively.

So you see nothing wrong with petty theft.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Nope we can't.

I mean the MASSIVE BALLS the Chinese Navy has. Taking a Drone from an unarmed research ship.

The US military conducts operations in the SCS in some form everyday. There's a reason why they go after a UUV and not a US carrier group, destroyer, or fighter/bomber. They know s**t would hit the fan.

 

[Akasa]

So you see nothing wrong with petty theft.

I was criticizing Obama's response (or lack thereof) to the situation. Don't take my words out of context.

 

[gambit]

I was criticizing Obama's response (or lack thereof) to the situation. Don't take my words out of context.

What is there for Obama to respond ? The US Navy's response is not good enough ?

Anyway...Never mind US responses. Why the theft ? It is brazen. Right in front of the owner.

But it is noted that the ship was not a US Navy ship but a civilian research vessel. The PLAN bullying civilians.

 

[Akasa]

What is there for Obama to respond ? The US Navy's response is not good enough ?

Anyway...Never mind US responses. Why the theft ? It is brazen. Right in front of the owner.

But it is noted that the ship was not a US Navy ship but a civilian research vessel. The PLAN bullying civilians.

What US Navy response? So far the current administration has yet to make an official response (verbal or otherwise) to the provocation; the Pentagon did voice a request for the Chinese to return the UUV but I doubt anyone would believe the Chinese would actually honor it.

You don't react to a burglary by asking nicely to have your belongings returned; you reach for your Mossberg.

 

[F-22Raptor]

International waters, 160 km off the Philippines' Subic Bay, is certainly not China's "backyard", geographically or politically.



Unfortunately, the Obama administration would probably draw another of their famed "red lines", like they did against the Russians and Syrians for the DNC hack & civil war, respectively.

US adversaries will eventually run into a US administration that will retaliate for such actions. Obama has certainly proven to be indecisive.

 

[Akasa]

US adversaries will eventually run into a US administration that will retaliate for such actions.

The good days of Reagan, you mean?

 

[gambit]

What US Navy response? So far the current administration has yet to make an official response (verbal or otherwise) to the provocation; the Pentagon did voice a request for the Chinese to return the UUV but I doubt anyone would believe the Chinese would actually honor it.

You don't react to a burglary by asking nicely to have your belongings returned; you reach for your Mossberg.

Why should there be a response in the first place ?

You criticize Obama's lack of response. Great. That is like criticizing the robbery victim for being a victim.

Your avoidance of criticizing the Chinese government for this brazen theft is telling. It is a theft. It is bullying of civilians.

Now...Your China can always do what the Iranians did to our sailors. See what happens next. Trump may give your China a response you will not like.

 

[Huan]

A Chinese Navy ship stole an American oceanographic underwater drone in the South China Sea approximately 40 miles west of the Philippines and about 150 miles from Scarborough Shoal, an area contested by the Chinese and the Philippines, two U.S. defense officials told Fox News.

The incident occurred around noon Thursday local time. The Chinese ship had been shadowing the American ship, USNS Bowditch for days.

The research ship was owned by the U.S. Navy but operated by Military Sealift Command, with a crew of contracted civilian mariners and scientists.

The Chinese have been regularly shadowing U.S. Navy vessels in the South China Sea for months, Fox News was told.

According to the USNS Bowditch ship's website, the ship is used to "support worldwide oceanography programs, including performing acoustical, biological, physical and geophysical surveys." Fox News was told the underwater drone was used to map the sea floor and other oceanographic data.

The drone was worth roughly $150,000 dollars. After the Chinese vessel plucked the drone out of the water, the American research ship attempted to call the Chinese ship over bridge-to-bridge radio, but to no avail.

The State Department launched a formal protest known as a demarche by the U.S. Ambassador and delivered to the Chinese government today, Fox News was told.

There was no immediate comment from the State Dept when Fox News reached out for comment.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/16/china-steals-us-underwater-drone-in-south-china-sea.html

Really China? So now your stealing drones conducting legitimate scientific research in international waters? Pathetic...[/

With incoming Trump, what do you expect?

 

[phancong]

Why should there be a response in the first place ?

You criticize Obama's lack of response. Great. That is like criticizing the robbery victim for being a victim.

Your avoidance of criticizing the Chinese government for this brazen theft is telling. It is a theft. It is bullying of civilians.

Now...Your China can always do what the Iranians did to our sailors. See what happens next. Trump may give your China a response you will not like.

He not Chinese

Told you 10 yrs from now US navy will meet her match in SCS.

Chinese military fully know the location of this drone and scoop it up right in front of the US ship.

 

[Akasa]

Why should there be a response in the first place ?

You criticize Obama's lack of response. Great. That is like criticizing the robbery victim for being a victim.

Your avoidance of criticizing the Chinese government for this brazen theft is telling. It is a theft. It is bullying of civilians.

Now...Your China can always do what the Iranians did to our sailors. See what happens next. Trump may give your China a response you will not like.

Sigh... you've taken my words out of context again.

Re-read my post. I was criticizing Obama's administration for apparent inaction. Nowhere did I imply that China's actions were justified.

As for Trump, I'm all for what he has to offer. But you wouldn't believe that (not that it matters).