South China Sea Forum

[GS Zhou]

China builds its 1st marine nuclear power station
2016-11-05 07:39:31 CRIENGLISH.com Web Editor: Xu Yaqi

The construction of China's first marine nuclear power station began on Friday, November 4, 2016. The floating nuclear plant, named ACPR50S and designed by China General Nuclear Power Corp (CGN), will provide electricity, heat and fresh water for marine resources exploration, as well as the everyday life and production of island residents.

CGN has released its contract with Dongfang Electric, a company that will provide reactor pressure vessels for key parts of the power station's experiment reactor.

Reactor pressure vessels have the longest production cycle in the whole project; therefore, they will largely determine how long the plant can be completed.

CGN is also going to use the VR technology to simulate the scenes of construction, which can help prevent and analyze accidents.

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Nice progress! After completion, our fishermen and scientists at the South China Sea can have a stable electricity supply! More people and assets could be deployed there!!

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Really? There is a “PDF rule” that all maps older 100 years are banned in this section?? Thats the first time I’ve ever heard about this socalled “PDF rule”, sounds like you guys are trying to hide/censor something.

ya tell that to the mod who obviously had his reasons to implement this rule.

Are u challenging the mod's decision?

BTW, check out kecho's profile n see how many off topic posts he has in reagrd to this thread. han dynasty, tang dynasty, Japan, Taiwan, Russia, Soviet Union- he practically talks about everything that has nothing to do with the Suuth China sea, cos he know his Little Namviet(Xiaonanyue) is weak alone.

 

[GS Zhou]

China Post recently issued a set of five stamps about the Chinese lighthouses in the South China Sea.

Here is the five stamp

Here are the real pictures of the five lighthouses on five reefs in the South China Sea

Lighthouse on the Chubi Reef

Lighthouse on the Chigua Reef

Lighthouse on the Yongshu Reef

Lighthouse on the Huayang Reef

Lighthouse on the Meiji Reef

 

[GS Zhou]

some newest sat. pictures of our islands in the South China Sea

 

[cirr]

some newest sat. pictures of our islands in the South China Sea

View attachment 349970

Something fishy happening top and bottom?

 

[cochine]

Trilateral agreement among PH, Indonesia, Malaysia to address porous security in the south

November 7, 2016 PNA Nation 0

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The trilateral agreement among the Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia is expected to address the porous security area in the neighboring countries’ waters once it takes effect.

Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) spokesperson Brig. Gen. Restituto Padilla said the presence of military forces in maritime areas of common concern of the three nations would secure ships passing the area, allowing trade to grow faster.

The three countries share common waters near the provinces of Sulu and Tawi-Tawi.

Padilla said the trilateral agreement’s implementing rules and regulations (IRR) are currently being formulated.

No exact date was given on the completion of the IRR.

Cooperation between the three nations is driven by the need to address the rising incidents of armed robbery at sea, kidnapping and piracy in the three countries’ areas of common concern.

Earlier this year, Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) bandits conducted a series of attacks against Malaysian and Indonesian tugs and coal carriers, abducting dozens of crew members in the process.

The victims were eventually freed during the Philippine government offensive against the terrorist group.

Earlier, the three Southeast Asian nations have agreed to explore joint air patrols in transit corridors considered as maritime areas of common concern.

http://www.update.ph/2016/11/trilat...to-address-porous-security-in-the-south/10770

 

[UMNOPutra]

Has China really been successful with Malaysia, Philippines?

KUALA LUMPUR: Asean nations such as Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand, aware that China is better at playing geopolitics, are now playing China, according to a Financial Times article.

The tone of the article is that one should not read too much into the “success” achieved by Beijing and that it is more perception than reality.
The lengthy FT article delves into China’s success in courting the Philippines and Malaysia, the motivation of the leaderships in these nations, the impact on these nations relationship with the US and the South China Sea dispute.
It acknowledges that the back-to-back visits by Philippine and Malaysian leaders have marked a moment of rare foreign policy success for Beijing and that Beijing has demonstrated that a concerted charm, and cash, offensive in Asia can cause even staunch US allies to wobble in their pro-Washington orbits.
“There is going to be a more intensified game of influence in the region,” it quotes Paul Haenle, former China director for the US National Security Council who is now director of the Carnegie-Tsinghua Center in Beijing as saying.
The article quotes experts as saying that nothing concrete has been taken away from the US by either country, but that in diplomacy, where perception is often more important than reality, much damage has been done.
According to the FT article, just as China is getting better at playing geopolitics, its neighbours are getting better at playing China, and many analysts are sceptical that Beijing actually got the better deal.
Carl Thayer, a Southeast Asia specialist at Australia’s University of New South Wales, is quoted as saying: “It’s almost universal in every country: make profits and benefit from the relationship with China, but don’t make yourself choose between the US and China.”
The FT articles says while Asean nations are keen to tap Beijing’s money to build infrastructure, the US is also still a more important source of foreign direct investment.
China has sought to blunt the force of a ruling dismissing its claim to the Scarborough Shoal by an international tribunal in The Hague by “buying off” the Philippines, the article says.
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte received USD13.5 billion in promised investment and trade deals when he visited China.
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak returned from a five-day visit to China with about USD34 billion worth of deals.
The FT article says analysts note that both Duterte and Najib have been at least partially motivated by personal grievances against the US.
Duterte has railed against US criticism of his domestic anti-drug war, in which the government has condoned the use of police death squads, while Najib has been stung by the US after federal prosecutors investigated 1MDB. China, the FT article say, has bailed out the fund by buying its distressed assets.
In Thailand, the ruling generals have turned towards China and away from the US after Washington’s criticism of their 2014 coup, the article observes.
“Right now the carrots are being fed and the sticks are in the back pocket because China wants to test how far it can pull these states into its orbit,” the FT quotes Prashanth Parameswaran, an expert on South China Sea diplomacy, as saying.
“This could well be just another period of Chinese charm that will be followed by another round of coercion. That’s certainly been the pattern of Chinese behaviour before, and it is difficult to see why Beijing would change now,” says Parameswaran.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/ca...ly-been-successful-with-malaysia-philippines/

 

[cochine]

For example, your friend Kecho once showed an ancient map, and told us this map is a crucial evidence to support Vietnam's claim on the South China Sea. But what's ridiculous is,
1. this map comes from an ancient book. But no one know what is the exact name of this book. Different book names are mentioned by different sources in Vietnam

2. No one knows where is the original copy of this book. What's available currently is only the replicated copies that created by the later generations. Replicated Copies!!! You know, every one can add his own flavor to the book during every round of replicate.

Another interesting example, still coming from your friend Kecho. He once shared a 19th-century map, which, according to Kecho's theory, is again a crucial evidence to support Vietnam's right on the South China Sea. However, if we strictly follow what is drawn on the map, a very large part of China's Guangxi Province would be belong to Vietnam. The China vs. Vietnam border line, according to the map, is close to the Leizhou Peninsula.

https://defence.pk/threads/south-china-sea-forum.196058/page-725

don't say meaningless .

The old book is written by Chinese and printed in China It is evidence for that long time ago Chinese had recognized that there is Cochin (Vietnam) Sea. Nine dashed line is fabricated by KMT in 1948.

 

[GS Zhou]

don't say meaningless .

The old book is written by Chinese and printed in China It is evidence for that long time ago Chinese had recognized that there is Cochin (Vietnam) Sea. Nine dashed line is fabricated by KMT in 1948.

So what?

India Ocean doesn't mean the ocean belonging to India; Japan Sea doesn't mean the sea belonging to Japan; a lake in US is called as China Lake (US Navy weapon test center China Lake), but that doesn't mean the lake belonging to China. A very large part of Japan is even called as "中国". But it doesn't mean that part of Japan's land belongs to China.

 

[52051]

Hehe, with trump being the US president, I really want to see the expression of the lapdogs of the US now, it must be priceless

 

[艹艹艹]

China Post issues stamps featuring South China Sea lighthouses
People's Daily Online | Updated: 2016-11-08 14:03

[Photo/People's Daily Online]

China Post issued a set of postage stamps on Oct 28 featuring five lighthouses located in the South China Sea. With a simple and elegant design, the stamps showcase multi-functional lighthouses built since 2015.

The five chosen lighthouses support safe navigation in the region, reducing risks and accidents. A transportation official named Shi Junfeng said that the lighthouses provide services including route guidance, navigation and safety bulletins, improving navigational aid and emergency rescue in their adjacent waters.

The designers of the lighthouses incorporated various Chinese cultural images into the blueprints, conveying the friendliness of Chinese people to foreign seafarers. Completed in 137 days, the lighthouses in Huayang and Chigua reefs set records for the shortest construction time in China's history.

The light emitted by the lighthouses covers a range of up to 22 nautical miles. In addition, the Automatic Identification System and Very High Frequency base stations installed in all five lighthouses further ensure the safety of vessels in the South China Sea.

Shi commented that even though the construction of these lighthouses was challenging, it felt worthwhile each time their lights finally turned on.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/culture/2016-11/08/content_27310154.htm

 

[艹艹艹]

China, Vietnam conclude joint patrol in Beibu Gulf
(Xinhua) 21:04, November 09, 2016

(File photo)

China and Vietnam concluded a three-day joint patrol mission in a common fishing zone inthe Beibu Gulf Wednesday.

Coast guards from both sides completed a series of scheduled tasks, including a joint patrol,maritime search and rescue exercise, and examination of fishing boats, amid strong windsand high waves, according to a China Coast Guard (CCG) statement.

The two sides also discussed law enforcement experiences and visited each other's ships.

This has been the two countries' second joint patrol in 2016; the first being in April. Fourcoast guard ships were involved in the latest mission.

The two countries have conducted 12 joint law enforcement exercises in the commonfishing zone since 2006, the statement said.

The latest mission will help the two sides' maritime search and rescue abilities, andstrengthen personnel communication and law enforcement cooperation, according to LiuTianrong, the Chinese commander of the mission.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Chinese postage stamps violate Vietnam's sovereignty

By VnExpress November 4, 2016 | 12:14 pm GMT+7
Vietnamese collectors have alerted authorities of the violation and called for official disapproval.
The Vietnam Stamp Club, a group of local collectors, has informed the government that China Post’s new stamps violate Vietnam’s sovereignty over an island chain in the East Sea, the Vietnamese reference for the South China Sea.

In a document sent to the information ministry on Wednesday, the group said the Chinese State Post Bureau issued a set of five stamps named “Chinese lighthouses,” depicting lighthouses constructed on five reefs of Vietnam’s Spratly Islands, which were illegally occupied by China in 1988 and 1995.

Hoang Anh Thi, head of the club, said that the new stamps have violated Vietnam’s sovereignty. China uses the pretext of stamp issuance to deceive the public over its illegal actions, Thi added.

This is the third time China Post has released stamps violating Vietnam's sovereignty over the Spratlys and Paracels, another island chain in the East Sea.

Earlier, in 2004 it issued a stamp set featuring frontier scenes of China, one of which showed the image of Paracel Islands, which China has taken by force since 1974.

In 2013, China Post distributed another stamp set with one stamp featuring the islands. This time, the Vietnam’s Post Department demanded that China Post abolish stamps, envelops and postcards that violated Vietnam’s sovereignty and avoid similar actc.

China Post, however, apparently repeated the violation with the new stamps issued late last month.

The Vietnam Stamp Club proposed that the information ministry speak out against China Post's action and issue a set of its own stamps showing images of the Spratly and Paracel Islands to reaffirm Vietnam’s sovereignty.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/south-china-sea-forum.196058/page-727#ixzz4PZCsHEG8



Do you mean that Namviet is true Vietnam today ?

So we can claim back that Guangdong and Guangxi province is Vietnam's historic territory. So that Cantonese, Hokkien people from Guandong and Guangxi is origin Vietnamese, you have to join with us to fight counter Han Chinese's invasion in East Sea of Vietnam.

Why don't you say the Han Chiness should claim back the southern half of Namviet all the way to Da Nang instead?

 

[GS Zhou]

You are funny Chinese boy.

In China and Japan both, Han Zi is offical writting characters used from long time ago. "中国" in Japanese is name of one location in territory of Japan. "中国" in China is brifly called to the name of one country 中华人民共和国. Íts two diferent thing.

Cochin (交趾) is name of Vietnamese people, is written in Chinese, so 交趾 洋 (Cochin Sea) dóse mean that there is Vietnam's Sea.

You are a very funny Vietnam kid. You know few about Chinese history nor Chinese characters, but you even dare to explain Chinese characters in front of a Chinese!

中国 is served as short to 中华人民共和国 only? Are you sure??

Below is an arm protector digged from a Han-Dynasty tomb in Xinjiang in 1995. See what is written on it? 五星出东方利中国, or "Five star rises in the East, brings benefits to 中国". You mean Han-Dynasty people already predict the birth of 中华人民共和国？

The following is what written on He Zun （何尊）, a bronze vessels made in the Western Zhou Dynasty (1046–771 BC). The highlighted characters are 宅兹中国, or "own the place called 中国". So you mean Western Zhou Dynasty people also predict the birth of 中华人民共和国？

South China Sea belongs to us. So we have the right to make whatever names to the sea. Just like that part of Japan belongs to Japan fully, so the Japanese people has the right to bring whatever names to that part of land. Even Japan calls such a big part of its land as 中国, but we Chinese will never believe that part belongs to us, simply because of the name.

When China hand back to Vietnam our Islands, we can do same sea join patrol in all SCS (Vietnam East Sea).

China will eventually get back all China's islands that are currently illegally occupied by Vietnam. That day won't be too far away, 20 to 25 years maximally!

 

[GS Zhou]

This battle is just beginning.

Among so many of your posts here, this is the very few that I could agree fully. You are perfectly right, the battle is just beginning!

Just take a look at our ship builders and aircraft plants