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Typical Vietnamese dirty media tactic. Paracel archipelegao is fully and completely under our current administration. They are basically complaining that the drilling area is 119 nautical miles away from Ly Son Island (administer by Vietnam) and that we cannot drill in our 18 nautical miles off Triton Island (which we administer). What a joke! LOL

You want to stop us from drilling? Perhaps grow some ball and take Paracel away from us.

This is what happen when small states are cleverly using dirty tactic to badmouth us because we are big and perceive as bully. Because we are big, we are not allow to make a claim and drill within our administration territorial EEZ right within Paracel. To get an idea of how outrageous this is. Imagine Columbia/Venezuela telling the US to stop drilling near US's offshore territory, Virgin Island.

Liar, lying. Hoang Sa is our Islands, china is ocoupid with force. Its illegal action. Chinese go to hell, idiot aggressors.

As a popular internet phrase goes:heaven is too far, China too close.???:enjoy:
and chinese is thief.
 
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Liar, lying. Hoang Sa is our Islands, china is ocoupid with force. Its illegal action. Chinese go to hell, idiot aggressors.
We only take back what belong to us. It is closer to Hainan than Vietnam. Not to mention, British can have Falkland thousand of miles away. Same with the US in Guam. All have one thing in common, big gun with big ball. You know in the real world, you want to control territory, you need big gun and big ball. No right. Nobody cares. We lose Diaoyu this way because we lack gun back then. It is unfortunate for you Vietnamese. Go play somewhere else. Go play with the Philippines or somewhere else that you have a chance.
 
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Typical Vietnamese dirty media tactic. Paracel archipelegao is fully and completely under our current administration. They are basically complaining that the drilling area is 119 nautical miles away from Ly Son Island (administer by Vietnam) and that we cannot drill in our 18 nautical miles off Triton Island (which we administer). What a joke! LOL

You want to stop us from drilling? Perhaps grow some ball and take Paracel away from us.

This is what happen when small states are cleverly using dirty tactic to badmouth us because we are big and perceive as bully. Because we are big, we are not allow to make a claim and drill within our administration territorial EEZ right within Paracel. To get an idea of how outrageous this is. Imagine Columbia/Venezuela telling the US to stop drilling near US's offshore territory, Virgin Island.
Your big oil rig has planned to drill there since the first day we come here and discuss with u guys (abt 2 years ago),...... and its still just a plan until now :lol:

Come one Chinese, pls show to the world that u have the ball to face with VNese alone without US-Japan's daddy protection like 1979 :P
 
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I think we need to increase defence spending a bit. Turning all islands into fortress, equipped with antiship and anti aircraft missiles. like this one here in the SC Sea.


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We only take back what belong to us. It is closer to Hainan than Vietnam. Not to mention, British can have Falkland thousand of miles away. Same with the US in Guam. All have one thing in common, big gun with big ball. You know in the real world, you want to control territory, you need big gun and big ball. No right. Nobody cares. We lose Diaoyu this way because we lack gun back then. It is unfortunate for you Vietnamese. Go play somewhere else. Go play with the Philippines or somewhere else that you have a chance.

You can not facing with Japanese and turned to bully Viets, dirty, idiot chinese.
 
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Your big oil rig has planned to drill there since the first day we come here and discuss with u guys (abt 2 years ago),...... and its still just a plan until now :lol:

Come one Chinese, pls show to the world that u have the ball to face with VNese alone without US-Japan's daddy protection like 1979 :P
If there is one country we fear, it is Vietnam. You guys are some crazy maniac with no logic who willing to risk everything to harm us. This is like a rabid dog trying to bite you because the dog got whip by his superior. LOL I am very scare of talking to you Viet right now because no amount of logic and common sense make you Vietnamese become saint again. This is scary! LOL
 
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We only take back what belong to us. It is closer to Hainan than Vietnam. Not to mention, British can have Falkland thousand of miles away. Same with the US in Guam. All have one thing in common, big gun with big ball. You know in the real world, you want to control territory, you need big gun and big ball. No right. Nobody cares. We lose Diaoyu this way because we lack gun back then. It is unfortunate for you Vietnamese. Go play somewhere else. Go play with the Philippines or somewhere else that you have a chance.
great idea. Vietnam should take Laos and Cambodia and of course Thailand and Burma.
we will ask the Philippines if they want to join the Vietnam friendship club, too. :sarcastic:

Don´t intervene.
 
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in 20 more years, vietnam will have nothing in SCS.
it is your destiny. you can fight against it.but in the end you will have nothing left.

better for vietnam is to make an offer to sell all their islands to china,make some money.
or you will lose it anyway.
Your slave's mind. We're not.
We only take back what belong to us. It is closer to Hainan than Vietnam. Not to mention, British can have Falkland thousand of miles away. Same with the US in Guam. All have one thing in common, big gun with big ball. You know in the real world, you want to control territory, you need big gun and big ball. No right. Nobody cares. We lose Diaoyu this way because we lack gun back then. It is unfortunate for you Vietnamese. Go play somewhere else. Go play with the Philippines or somewhere else that you have a chance.
It's not, like I know, Paracel is closer to Vietnam. But it's not matter with distance when we talk about sovereignty.
Game still on, life still go ... we'll wait.
 
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If there is one country we fear, it is Vietnam. You guys are some crazy maniac with no logic who willing to risk everything to harm us. This is like a rabid dog trying to bite you because the dog got whip by his superior. LOL I am very scare of talking to you Viet right now because no amount of logic and common sense make you Vietnamese become saint again. This is scary! LOL
Whatever, we dont give a damn care to ur big oil rig until u guys have the guts to place it there. 2 years has passed already, and we still dont see it inside our water :P

Barking dog seldom bite :lol:
 
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You can not facing with Japanese and turned to bully Viets, dirty, idiot chinese.
We have offer you Vietnamese the opportunity for joint-exploration and development but you resist. Don't blame us. You Viet are dirty against smaller and weaker country like Philippines. The history of you grabbing Philippines control territory in Spratly is legendary. LOL Like I said, you need big gun and big ball.
 
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As a popular internet phrase goes:heaven is too far, China too close.???:enjoy:
Russia is close to you, too.

a mutual defence treatry between Vietnam and Russia is a very realistic option.

We have offer you Vietnamese the opportunity for joint-exploration and development but you resist. Don't blame us. You Viet are dirty against smaller and weaker country like Philippines. The history of you grabbing Philippines control territory in Spratly is legendary. LOL Like I said, you need big gun and big ball.
don´t bullshit.

Vietnam agreed with you of joint-exploration and development in the Gulf of Tonkin. Negotiation is ongoing to expand into other sea areas. Now you sabotage the talk with such steps.
 
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It's not, like I know, Paracel is closer to Vietnam. But it's not matter with distance when we talk about sovereignty.
Game still on, life still go ... we'll wait.
At this point, we are very tired of getting into historical dispute over territory. The rule of the game will always remain the same. Who got bigger ball with bigger gun? You know the West didn't enjoy supremacy if they didn't have ball and big gun to impose their long distance offshore territories. Now let talk logic, shall we? We are a nuclear power state, 2nd in economy, 3rd in military, and have enormous potential. How do you plan to wrestle it away from us? If you don't do it today, you will not have the opportunity to do it in the future when we grow a lot stronger today. 2 carrier battlegroups are just a start in 2020s. By 2040s, we will triple that to 6 or even 10. This is not mentioning we will have drone to patrol the area 24 hours. Since Paracel is much closer to our NAVY headquarter in Hainan. We can easily retake it in case you try to invade and take it away from us. My friend, reality kicks in and it hurts. LOL

Russia is close to you, too.

a mutual defence treatry between Vietnam and Russia is a very realistic option.


don´t bullshit.

Vietnam agreed with you of joint-exploration and development in the Gulf of Tonkin. Negotiation is ongoing to expand into other sea areas. Now you sabotage the talk with such steps.
Sabotage, my ***. It was you Vietnamese who want to internationalizing the dispute and bring 3rd party to split the resources. We said no. We want bilateral negotiation but you insist on multilateral. Get this fact straight!
 
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Can SBY end China’s dominance in the South China Sea?
C.P.F. Luhulima

Jakarta | May 05 2014

It will take a long time for ASEAN to deal with the South China Sea (SCS) problem.

ASEAN was gently pressed to arrive at an arrangement to formulate and sign a Declaration on the Conduct of Parties (DOC) in the SCS, a politically dressed Code of Conduct that ASEAN did not seek.

A joint working group was set up to draft an action plan, specifying cooperation in the protection of the maritime environment, navigation and communication at sea, search and rescue and fighting transnational crime.

Initially, ASEAN contended it would continue negotiating the terms and conditions first before meeting China, but China insisted that parties in conflict in the SCS would have to solve their sovereignty and jurisdictional problems with China on a bilateral basis, not multilaterally, in the ASEAN 10 plus 1 format.

ASEAN rejected this and further negotiations were delayed.

The guidelines for the DOC were only agreed upon after ASEAN sacrificed its stance of consolidating itself before meeting the Chinese — disparaging ASEAN in its entirety.

All parties to the DOC would thus conduct their dialogue and consultation jointly, not in the ASEAN format of 10 + 1, but under a new format of 11.

Where is the ASEAN centrality we so proudly proclaimed to the world?

ASEAN violated its own concord on defending its centrality and role as a prime mover in its relations with all its dialogue partners. By giving in to China, ASEAN sacrificed its unanimity.

The most tragic event was the 45th ASEAN Ministerial Meeting in Phnom Penh in 2012.

The controversy involving the Philippines and Vietnam on the one hand, and Cambodia as the host, reflected parties that adhered to the respective principle of ASEAN centrality versus ASEAN plus China as an entity, a soccer team. This breakup among ASEAN members on the SCS cannot be justified.

Here again, China “dictated” how conflict in the SCS had to be dealt with, not jurisdictionally but politically.

China even makes fun of ASEAN in the South China Sea disputes.

Ever since the problem in the SCS first emerged, it could and would not determine the coordinates of the nine-dotted lines it claimed were its final territorial boundaries. It kept harping on about its historical rights.

ASEAN has drafted the ASEAN Proposed Elements of a Regional Code of Conduct in the South China Sea (COC), followed by Indonesia’s Zero Draft on the COC.

But China has discarded both, adhering to the DOC to manage conflicts in the SCS.

ASEAN must decide on leaving the soccer team format to manage the SCS disputes with China and regenerate the 10 + 1 format in its dealings on the sea in question.

Here, Indonesia must take the lead. The request of ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in late 2012 to assist in managing SCS tensions should be taken as a constructive gesture.

The problem of the SCS can no longer be managed at the level of foreign ministers alone. The Phnom Penh debacle brought ASEAN to the brink of “balkanization”, the breakup of ASEAN for China’s sake.

The extraordinary endeavors of the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei Darussalam, Thailand and Vietnam to mobilize ASEAN’s unity in Phnom Penh have grossly failed to bring Cambodia back into ASEAN’s political fold.

The restoration of ASEAN solidarity must be conducted at the ASEAN Summit level, in the format of summit diplomacy. Indonesia seems to be the only party able to take the initiative at the leaders’ summit.

Aside from being ASEAN’s de facto leader and “by far the largest economy and population in Southeast Asia — the only country that matters to China and the only influential voice that can redirect regional efforts to change things, (May Hong, The Jakarta Post), Indonesia should channel the trend in the management of the SCS in ASEAN’s favor.

China is a threat, starting with its dominance in managing tensions through a DOC and completely discarding ASEAN’s efforts at formulating a code of conduct.

It even makes fun of ASEAN in disputes in the South China Sea. If China succeeds in its effort and ASEAN succumbs, balkanization will set in with many consequences for Indonesia and the other ASEAN members.

Who can guarantee that one day China will not claim the northern part of the Natuna sea as part of its territory as well?

Yudhoyono, toward the end of his term, should help revitalize ASEAN’s unity on the SCS issue. Indonesia must reinvigorate an “integrated” Southeast Asia (as in the Soeharto years), in line with the current form of an ASEAN Political and Security Community — both Indonesian initiatives to integrate the region into an ASEAN Community.

Indonesia must reembrace the Philippines and Vietnam in formulating ASEAN’s stance on China in the SCS, to rekindle the attitude of “ASEAN first” in internationalizing this problem.

In line with a new presidential decree on an official reference to China, Indonesia may have to change the term “Laut Cina Selatan” (South China Sea) to “Laut Tiongkok Selatan”, acknowledging the ocean as China’s sea.

Meanwhile the Philippines has started to coin the term “West Philippines Sea” and the Nguyen Thai Hoc Foundation in California is suggesting the term “Southeast Asia Sea”.

Why do we not initiate the term the “ASEAN Sea”, as raised by the political analyst Riefqi Muna, to project the ASEAN Political and Security Community in waters to the north, east and west of ASEAN?

The time has come to liberate ourselves of China’s dominance and revitalize ASEAN’s spirit in the managing of the South China Sea on its terms.

Indonesia’s initiative is crucial, as China recognizes Indonesia as ASEAN’s de facto leader.

It is time we acted more assertively in the SCS, to make it the ASEAN Sea.

The writer is a researcher at the Centre for Political Studies at the Indonesian Institute of Sciences (LIPI) in Jakarta.

Can SBY end China’s dominance in the South China Sea? | The Jakarta Post
 
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At this point, we are very tired of getting into historical dispute over territory. The rule of the game will always remain the same. Who got bigger ball with bigger gun? You know the West didn't enjoy supremacy if they didn't have ball and big gun to impose their long distance offshore territories. Now let talk logic, shall we? We are a nuclear power state, 2nd in economy, 3rd in military, and have enormous potential. How do you plan to wrestle it away from us? If you don't do it today, you will not have the opportunity to do it in the future when we grow a lot stronger today. 2 carrier battlegroups are just a start in 2020s. By 2040s, we will triple that to 6 or even 10. This is not mentioning we will have drone to patrol the area 24 hours. Since Paracel is much closer to our NAVY headquarter in Hainan. We can easily retake it in case you try to invade and take it away from us. My friend, reality kicks in and it hurts. LOL


Sabotage, my ***. It was you Vietnamese who want to internationalizing the dispute and bring 3rd party to split the resources. We said no. We want bilateral negotiation but you insist on multilateral. Get this fact straight!
Nobody know the future ... it maybe hurt for us or ... for you.
 
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