Sorry, Fareed: Saudi Arabia Can Build a Bomb Any Damn Time It Wants To

[bdslph]

lol no you cannot if you do Iran will make Qatar Kuwait will follow and others also
and i really dont think anyone will allow it

 

[scythian500]

wow... Is it really only me who get the main point of Farid here or it is just a global ignorance? He does not mean building a car or having a good education system is directly related to the capability of a nation to build a nuke... he simly says... KSA don't have neither the know how nor the scientists and infra to do the enrichment and then nukes or a heavy water system and then plutonium and then boom.... Is it really that hard to understand?

I agree that the examples are not directly related...what Farid wanted to achieve was to give us a hint that Saudi land has not neither educational background...scientific necessities...nor the industrial infra needed to do such a job... We all know that even North Korea is million times more capable scientifically than Saudi land that have a backward education system per Farid's article... and it is a known fact that Pakistan be it 200th in money and math and science still has 1000 times more scientific minds and needed infra to build a nuclear arsenal... This is the point...

and believe me... God given money that falls from sky can not buy everything... The competency and being industrialized needs tens of different factors in a single country... having money is only one part of at least tens of different parts.... It is like that scam scandal where Saudis used to pay European and foreign scientists so they publish their scientific and research papers under the name of one Saudi university... They got busted.... They are a source of laugh in scientific community... I remember I was checking the ranking and suddenly over night Saudi jumped from nearly 80th to 23th or 24th... I said to myself.. there is something fishy about it..and there we go!!

Money is only helpful when it meets other needed elements... Money will not help if you have a nation that does not have the desire to spend time on research and science for the sake of science...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Fareed Zakaria just showed his massive ignorance about Saudi Arabia. This ignorance is shared by some liberals in Pakistan too. Saudi Arabia in last 15 years have massively invested in education and industry and its growing and now they have enough scientists and engineers to run a nuclear program.

Meanwhile in the real world;

Nuclear Power in Saudi Arabia

Nuclear energy in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saudi Arabia teams up with Korea on SMART

Saudi Arabia Fast-Tracks Nuclear Power - Forbes

Saudi Nuclear New Build Summit

UPDATE 1-Saudi Arabia, South Korea sign MOU on nuclear power| Reuters

Here's why Saudi Arabia needs nuclear power

Nuclear program of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nuclear Kingdom: Saudi Arabia's Atomic Ambitions - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

King Abdullah City for Atomic and Renewable Energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

etc. etc.

This ugly Indian (Zakaria Fareed) is a dumb Shia that is obsessive about Sunni Muslims and Arabs evident by his track record. Let him bark and please his master while writing complete and utter nonsense.

In any case KSA does not currently possess the means to develop nuclear weapons as this has never been the priority but if KSA truly wanted to and Iran developed nuclear weapons (which I doubt will ever happen and thus makes this debate irrelevant) it could happen down the road as KSA will have a highly developed civil nuclear power industry in less than 2 decades. From then on only ambition (no problem either), money (no problem) and politics (problem if a great power (read USA) would want to prevent KSA from obtaining nuclear weapons) will remain as obstacles. One thing is to have an ability to develop nuclear weapons down the road somewhere in the future and another thing is actually doing jus that. The government of KSA would be absolutely mad to go down the road of the Mullah's in Iran. That would be called a slow but certain suicide.

Rather go down the planned route and develop a highly advanced nuclear industry within KSA and then the step of developing actual nuclear weapons if needed will be less of a hassle. As of now the ME should be a nuclear weapons free area really which should include Israel too but that won't obviously be the case.

Thanks for the share @Ahmed Jo .

@WebMaster @Horus @Jungibaaz @Irfan Baloch

I think it is about time to deal with the same Arab-obessed Farsi trolls in this thread and others. It seems that they cannot mind their own business and not obsess about Arab matters that does not concern them. They are simply obsessed about the 450 million Arabs as Arabs were/are their religious, cultural, linguistic and military overlords. This creates a toxic obsession. If you notice none of the Arab users on PDF give a crap about their Mullahstan whose economy is smaller than 10 million big UAE let alone the other 21 Arab countries and their combined economy, wealth, influence etc.

It is getting beyond tiring and reporting their nonsense posts seems not to work. I suggest banning them from commenting on Arab topics. It would save a lot of your time and safe us Arab users from headache.

 

[scythian500]

You can enrich uranium no problem. But to weaponize it is a whole different ball game. There is not many scientists in the world who know how to do this.

Thats my understanding anyway, I may be wrong.

who says enriching uranium up to the weapn grade is easy? US landed a man on moon nearly 60 years ago... does it make it an easy task even with today's standards? The writer of this article wants to make a buzz... he has no idea what he is talking about....and Farid never said whoever can build a car or have good education and science can necessarily build a nuke or vice versa.... Farid wanted to give us a hint how KSA is and how it is unlikely that they can even enrich uranium or build a heavy water for plutonium.... is it really that hard to understand?

Saudia has better friends and money than iran to build it. Most precious factors used by iran to develop basic required infrastructure.

the story is about KSA not having the ability to do the enrichment, or heavy water plutonium and then make a bomb...it is not about KSA not being able to buy it from other advanced nations...

 

[انگریز]

Saudia should build nuclear weapons if the can,why not.

 

[scythian500]

Going by that logic .. Iran has or could have gotten WMDs by now...


Iran has both the "manufacturing base" and scientific know how .. when compared with KSA..

exactly... don't you think Iran never wanted to really build a bomb otherwise he could do it a long time a go?

 

[raptor22]

who says enriching uranium up to the weapn grade is easy? US landed a man on moon nearly 60 years ago... does it make it an easy task even with today's standards? The writer of this article wants to make a buzz... he has no idea what he is talking about....and Farid never said whoever can build a car or have good education and science can necessarily build a nuke or vice versa.... Farid wanted to give us a hint how KSA is and how it is unlikely that they can even enrich uranium or build a heavy water for plutonium.... is it really that hard to understand?


the story is about KSA not having the ability to do the enrichment, or heavy water plutonium and then make a bomb...it is not about KSA not being able to buy it from other advanced nations...

Having an operetinal centrifuge needs various and sundry fields of science combined in one output .. it itself would take years to have an industrial centrifuge .. then you need to arrange them in cascades ... it would be another problem ...

By the way what I can not fathom is what does it have with Iran? if you can go and do that ... saying all options are on the table is so miserable ...

 

[scythian500]

Reading this thread makes it look like nukes are pokemon cards that you can trade around..)

A lot of countries can make nukes, or buy knowledge to make them. I won't necessary count SA or Iran on that list, but it's not impossible.
The issue is making enough nukes and having the delivery systems in place to actually make them matter.Look at N Korea - they made some (probably)..but so what? They still don't matter.

In that respect, neither SA or Iran needs them, on the contrary if would be detrimental to their security, as you can't deter USA/Russia/NATO with a hand full of warheads and antique delivery systems, but you can (and will) paint a nuclear bullseye on your forehead in case of a conflict with the above. China was inches away from being attacked by the USSR, despite having nukes. Pakistan was in that boat also.

In a ME scenario, nukes are a nightmare and to be avoided at all costs. as there is a credible possibility that if Iran/SA gets them, they will use them against each other and God knows who else.
The final culmination of a millenia worth of sectarian/cultural hate and tribalism in the ME, with mushroom clouds going off everywhere..

My opinion is that nukes should be kept far, far away from the ME.As far as humanly possible

EDIT: I know Israel has them, but they got them when times were different and the Soviet block existed. Not that I agree with that. - still, the chances of Israel using them are minuscule compared to what can happen if SA/Iran gets them

YES ME should be cleaned out of Nukes...but hey all these fight started when ISrael proved to have nukes.... and why you say if Iran has nukes she will fire them to Saudi immediately? This shows you,re not familiar with ME scene of politics...

So far, only Israel threatened Iran to use nukes on her... They openly threatening Iran by using nukes against them... what do you say? They already attacked 6 or 7 countries or more in last 50 years while Iran never invaded any country in last 2.5 centuries!!

and it is a total non sense to let some nation have it and limit others from acquiring it... France and Russia openly and officially threatened to use Nukes if the situation is not on their favor... USA also officially declared their Atomic Umbrella over his allies...this means every country that has nukes and ask other not to acquire them are threatening to use it on others...

It is a non sense and can't stay long this way... either all nukes in all world will be dismantled or more and more nations will acquire nukes.... Period

It is naive to think Nuke-equipped countries can threaten other nations and still expect other nations not to be armed with the same weapons

Who on earth are you and what is bases of your claim ? and by the way we had build nuclear weapons by 1984 only tested it in 1998

He is famous for claiming extraordinary stuff... either a kid that uses its father's laptop or just .... hehehe ... don't mind it!

 

[my2cents]

Do you even understand what Pakistan had to do to acquire Nuclear weapon technology?

So many Pakistani scientists went missing around the world, captured and never to be seen again. The ones that got away pooled the information together then had to make sense of it and build.

This is not something easily done especially in the current climate, there is no one willing to hold your hand and guide you on how to make a bomb. Doing it yourself alone? Good luck.

Why don't you just come out and say that you stole the damn blueprints....LOL

 

[Thorough Pro]

Stop talking shit.

Pakistan should offer to lease a nuke to SA for $10 billion a year. I am sure this won't even be the tinniest dent in Saudi finances. Launch codes remain with PA in case of a trigger happy Sheikh on a bad hangover.

 

[raptor22]

I think it is about time to deal with the same Arab-obessed Farsi trolls in this thread and others. It seems that they cannot mind their own business and not obsess about Arab matters that does not concern them. They are simply obsessed about the 450 million Arabs as Arabs were/are their religious, cultural, linguistic and military overlords. This creates a toxic obsession. If you notice none of the Arab users on PDF give a crap about their Mullahstan whose economy is smaller than 10 million big UAE let alone the other 21 Arab countries and their combined economy, wealth, influence etc.

It is getting beyond tiring and reporting their nonsense posts seems not to work. I suggest banning them from commenting on Arab topics. It would save a lot of your time and safe us Arab users from headache.

It's clear who obsessed who isn't ... I think you have forgotten that it was your ambassador whom stated that all options are on the table regarding negotiating over Iranian nuclear program .. therefore tell him to mind his own business and not obsess about Iranian matters.

 

[Imran Khan]

fareed zakria is famous troll and stupid guy who take him serious ?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

It is Middle East section and Iran is the biggest name in ME... like it or not...and yes, it is of Master's affair to talk about their submission elements you sectarian non sense who bring Shia-Sunni into everything..even when talking about science and tech!!!

Iran is neither the biggest country of the ME (KSA is), neither the most populous (Egypt is), neither the richest (KSA is). Riyadh Province alone has a bigger economy than 80 million big Iran.
Same with 10 million big UAE. What a joke and delusion of grandeur!

What I wrote in regards to influence is the historical truth and everyone knows about it but you can deny it all you want if that makes you feel better.

Also keep your Farsi nonsense threads for your idiotic internal consumption. More precisely PissTV and Farce News.

Meanwhile in the real world as I told you…….

Let me just tell you that the people that you have named your username after (Central Asian nomads) are long gone and extinct just like your " facts" are non-existent.

P.S.: Sect is relevant here as that Fareed Zakaria (nice Arabic name) Indian clown has a long track record of writing nonsense about Arabs and majority Sunni Muslim countries. All to please his master.

If that had NOT been the case I would have cared less if he believed in the Spaghetti Monster or not. Unfortunately his track record is for all to see.

It's clear who obsessed who isn't ... I think you have forgotten that it was your ambassador whom stated that all options are on the table regarding negotiating over Iranian nuclear program .. therefore tell him to mind his own business and not obsess about Iranian matters.

Last time I saw it was not Arabs that were conquered by Farsis militarily, religiously, linguistically and culturally. Last time I checked it's not Arabs that are obsessing about events in Iran either.

Nor has this thread anything to do with Iran but Farsis alongside Indians are the most eager users to spread their nonsense in this thread. Coincidence? Don't think so.

Just mind your own business.

And no, Shia Arabs don't like you either so no need to kiss their asses constantly as I have seen you Farsis do online in Arabic and English on various forums.

@Falcon29

fareed zakria is famous troll and stupid guy who take him serious ?

Farsis and a few Indians on PDF apparently!

 

[Imran Khan]

Farsis and a few Indians on PDF apparently!

just read what BS he wrote man few articles if you have free time he is blind hater and troll

 

[Saif al-Arab]

just read what BS he wrote man few articles if you have free time he is blind hater and troll

His article is full of nonsense which the author of this article that @Ahmed Jo clearly showed. Besides nobody in KSA or the regime for that matter has claimed that KSA has the technology to develop nuclear weapons! That's not to say that this cannot happen down the road and that's what "all options open" means.

In approximately 2 decades KSA will have a highly developed nuclear industry (see my previous posts or research this field) and then we can talk about taking the next step. A step that might be possible but might not be allowed due to politics, for instance USA sanctioning such a move. Ally or not they have no interest in a nuclear arms race in such a unstable region like the ME is currently and has been for a long time, GCC being very stable or not.

In any case I find it very probably that should a Mullah ruled Iran develop nuclear weapons (I doubt that this will ever happen) then Pakistan will probably propose KSA (if such a need arrises) a nuclear umbrella. Other than that there is the Israeli option (KSA and Israel have undoubtedly the same interests vis-á-vis a nuclear Mullah-led Iran).

But of course the idiotic trolls are what they are and think that a 25 million big (indigenous population) is comparable to 200 million big Pakistan (former British colony too), 1.2 billion big India or even 80 million big Iran that started working on their nuclear energy (a technology developed by the West not them) long before KSA.