Sonny Bill Williams: Rugby star latest to criticise China over Uighurs

[KungFuLee]

If he didn't know it and wasn't defending China, why he said with such a certain tone that in general those reports are not true , why he didn't just say he doesn't know? If he wasn't defending China, why the Chinese government thanked and praised him afterwards for supporting China over Xinjiang?

You know the same argument you use applies to your own ideology, right?

If he is defending China, why not say that up front?

You said you hold a Master Degree? I would like to know where that come from?

China praises Kazakh president's 'positive comments' on Xinjiang
Updated 19:13, 11-Dec-2019
By Abhishek G Bhaya

Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev (left) said that the situation in Xinjiang is being sensationalized as part of geopolitics amid rising China-U.S. friction and asserted that his country would not be dragged in a "global anti-China front." /Xinhua Photo

China on Tuesday praised Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev for his "positive comments" in support of Beijing's position on the situation in Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, stressing that attempts by "some countries" to spread falsehoods will never succeed.

"President Tokayev's remarks on the relevant issue showcased the traditional friendship and high-level mutual trust between the two countries. His words also made a strong rebuff to the falsehoods told by some countries. People can tell right from wrong," Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying said at a press conference in Beijing.

"The Xinjiang-related policies the Chinese government has rolled out have won positive comments across the international community. Some countries have been making an issue of Xinjiang. They have gone so astray from facts and the mainstream opinion of the international community that their attempts will never succeed," she added.

Hua's remarks came after Tokayev, speaking to the German media on December 4 ahead of his Berlin visit, said that the situation in Xinjiang is being sensationalized as part of geopolitics amid rising China-U.S. friction. Acknowledging Xinjiang as China's internal affairs, the Kazakh leader asserted that his country would not be dragged in a "global anti-China front."

"Some international human rights organizations have offered false information and they are exploiting and sensationalizing the situation of the ethnic Kazakh minority on purpose," Tokayev said.

"What has been set up in Xinjiang are education and training institutions, and those claims that China has looped all the ethnic Kazakhs in the 'concentration camps' could not be further from the truth. The ethnic Kazakhs in China are first and foremost Chinese citizens and what happens in Xinjiang is China's internal affairs," he asserted

"According to international law and agreements between the two sides, Kazakhstan has no right to interfere in China's internal affairs, just like China has never interfered in the internal affairs of Kazakhstan," the Kazakh president added.

Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying addresses a press conference in Beijing, China, December 10, 2019. /Photo via China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Hua, meanwhile, highlighted that China and Kazakhstan are friendly neighbors that have forged a permanent comprehensive strategic partnership earlier this year. "President Tokayev's visit to China this September was very fruitful, during which the two presidents reaffirmed stronger support to each other and pledged to deepen cooperation on the Belt and Road Initiative for common development and prosperity."

Also on Tuesday, Chinese Ambassador to Kazakhstan Zhang Xiao highlighted that the year 2019 has been significant in terms of achieving many tangible results in the development of Sino-Kazakh relations.

"In 2019, the first president of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev and [current] President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev visited China. Tokayev's visit lifted the relationship to a permanent comprehensive strategic partnership. This is unprecedented," China's Xinhua news agency quoted Zhang as telling reporters in the Kazakh capital Nur-Sultan.

The ambassador noted that Nazarbayev was awarded the Friendship Medal of the People's Republic of China for his outstanding contributions to the development of Sino-Kazakh relations.

Stating that Kazakhstan's participation in the second China International Import Expo in Shanghai was a complete success, Zhang revealed that "contracts worth 160 million U.S. dollars were signed, which would increase access of Kazakh products to the Chinese market."

Two-way trade is expected to reach a new record of more than 20 billion U.S. dollars in 2019, said Zhang, adding that a number of important industrial and investment projects have also been launched.

"New impetus has been injected into cultural exchanges. The first Sino-Kazakh film 'The Composer' gains widespread recognition in both countries," he said.

The Chinese ambassador vowed to continue high-level political dialogues on bilateral relations and on international and regional issues while stressing that cooperation will focus on the development of relations between young people, think tanks, educational institutions and art groups of the two countries.

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And I don't see it as a "Positive Comment" when all he said is "He/Kazakh" will not be drag into "Anti-China" Front. That is by definition, staying neutral and washing his hand in the position by claiming these ethnic Kazakh is Chinese, which is none of his business even if they were torture.

I mean, those are all true, but that does not mean he is not saying it is not concentration camp, just that he don't care as those are Chinese, not Kazakh, he made this very clear when he said this

"The ethnic Kazakhs in China are first and foremost Chinese citizens and what happens in Xinjiang is China's internal affairs"

 

[Beast]

You know the same argument you use applies to your own ideology, right?

If he is defending China, why not say that up front?

You said you hold a Master Degree? I would like to know where that come from?



And I don't see it as a "Positive Comment" when all he said is "He/Kazakh" will not be drag into "Anti-China" Front. That is by definition, staying neutral and washing his hand in the position by claiming these ethnic Kazakh is Chinese, which is none of his business even if they were torture.

I mean, those are all true, but that does not mean he is not saying it is not concentration camp, just that he don't care as those are Chinese, not Kazakh, he made this very clear when he said this

"The ethnic Kazakhs in China are first and foremost Chinese citizens and what happens in Xinjiang is China's internal affairs"

Haters will always be haters. Many previous hostile or so called duped Pakistanis members by malicious western media, have been converted by us to supporters. Weep all u want, even CGTN has step up support against a lot of false allegation after many blunt fake allegation from people like u.

 

[beijingwalker]

And I don't see it as a "Positive Comment" wh

China does and the whole world does, that what matters, what you see doesn't make a difference. No foregin reporters raised the funny point as you do in the press conference.

 

[KungFuLee]

China does and the whole world does, that what matters, what you see doesn't make a difference. No foregin reporters raised the funny point as you do in the press conference.

Now it is "The Whole World" now...… Not just Kazakhstan and China. That's some nice logic there.

Well, again, let me know where you get your Master Degree, I will ask my niece who can't even get into IVE and have a go.

Haters will always be haters. Many previous hostile or so called duped Pakistanis members by malicious western media, have been converted by us to supporters. Weep all u want, even CGTN has step up support against a lot of false allegation after many blunt fake allegation from people like u.

I don't see any problem, you support that regime, I oppose that regime, someone stay neutral. So what's the problem there?

Or you can't see people criticize the Chinese Regime? And if this is what you think, then all I can say is, there are ALWAYS going to be detractor as much as supporter, you need to learn to live with it. Getting work up on some internet comment is bad for your health.

 

[Beast]

I don't see any problem, you support that regime, I oppose that regime, someone stay neutral. So what's the problem there?

Or you can't see people criticize the Chinese Regime? And if this is what you think, then all I can say is, there are ALWAYS going to be detractor as much as supporter, you need to learn to live with it. Getting work up on some internet comment is bad for your health.

But Chinese is not regime. It is a benevolent party that lifted a billion Chinese out of poverty. The US regime wouldnt even care about equality or distributing wealth. I support righteous, not evil.

 

[beijingwalker]

Now it is "The Whole World" now...… Not just Kazakhstan and China. That's some nice logic there.

Reporters from different countries are in that Chinese press conference and no one raised the funny point as you did, so you must be a very special person.

I don't see any problem, you support that regime, I oppose that regime, someone stay neutral. So what's the problem there?

And we support our government, nothing wrong with it. China needs more support from her own people, you are not even Chinese so your opinion is just secondary to what China cares.

 

[KungFuLee]

But Chinese is not regime. It is a benevolent party that lifted a billion Chinese out of poverty. The US regime wouldnt even care about equality or distributing wealth. I support righteous, not evil.

First of all, every government is a regime, unless you are looking at a government don't wanting to be in second term (or next term or whatever you say) if they want to stay govern, they have to limit other party political power and centralize power. That that's what authoritarianism mean and that is what a regime mean, a government with authoritarianism.

Second of all, you like to give your money to some people who don't deserve it is, well, well within your right to do so, I don't, and if you really care about equality or distributing wealth, please do send me a $1000 check because I am poor and I want equality .

Reporters from different countries are in that Chinese press conference and no one raised the funny point as you did, so you must be a very special person.

Again, reporter from different countries is "the Whole World" The world have 196 countries and 4 self governing government, and 3 city states. Are there 203 reporter in that press conference to represent each of the nation states?

And we support our government, nothing wrong with it. China needs more support from her own people, you are not even Chinese so your opinion is just secondary to what China cares.

As I said, you are free to support your own regime, that is not wrong, but there are always going to be opposition voice, just because Chinese government shield you from that does not mean they don't exist. And as for what I care or what I don't care, that is not your business to take on.

I don't have to care about China to criticize China, what are you going to do? Shut me up? LOL

 

[beijingwalker]

Again, reporter from different countries is "the Whole World" The world have 196 countries and 4 self governing government, and 3 city states. Are there 203 reporter in that press conference to represent each of the nation states?

LoL, You are just incrdible, but again, dozens of reporter from various nations and no one raised funny point as you did can still make you a special person.

 

[KungFuLee]

LoL, You are just incrdible, but again, dozens of reporter from various nations and no one raised funny point as you did can still make you a special person.

Again, I am not the one that said "The Whole World" when first you say it's "Kazakh and China" then "Dozens of Reporters"

I just want to know where you get your Master Degree that you claim you have, that's all.

 

[beijingwalker]

As I said, you are free to support your own regime, that is not wrong, but there are always going to be opposition voice, just because Chinese government shield you from that does not mean they don't exist. And as for what I care or what I don't care, that is not your business to take on.

I don't have to care about China to criticize China, what are you going to do? Shut me up? LOL

No one wants to shut no one up, I was just talking about your funny point, you are even the only person say that in PDF, you must have a unique way to look at things. lol

 

[KungFuLee]

No one wants to shut no one up, I was just talking about your funny point, you are even the only person say that in PDF, you must have a unique way to look at things. lol

I am the only person that say that? So, I am the only one here criticize China with or without regard to Uighur Issue?

 

[beijingwalker]

Again, I am not the one that said "The Whole World" when first you say it's "Kazakh and China" then "Dozens of Reporters"

I just want to know where you get your Master Degree that you claim you have, that's all.

It's an international press conference, on your logic, even UN can not fully represent the whole world, but that's not important, what I was talking is the funny point you raised but no one else sees that way.

I am the only person that say that? So, I am the only one here criticize China with or without regard to Uighur Issue?

No, you are the only person says Kazak president was not defending China in that interview.

 

[KungFuLee]

It's an international press conference, on your logic, even UN can not fully represent the whole world, but that's not important, what I was talking is the funny point you raised but no one else sees that way.

UN does not just have "Dozens" of representative though, so your argument there is flawed

No, you are the only person says Kazak president was not defending China in that interview.

lol, many people say the same thing you just don't (or may be can't) find them. Look at the comment section of that Conference on YouTube and you will see how people comment on him being Pragmatic and try to avoid being put into a square.

Just because you don't know that does not mean nobody are saying it, I don't understand why you people always have that line of thought.

 

[beijingwalker]

UN does not just have "Dozens" of representative though, so your argument there is flawed

lol, many people say the same thing you just don't (or may be can't) find them. .

That's a wild claim,so I guess internatinal press conference are not needed for any governments in the future cause they don't mean much internationally.

Anyone can claim they are right, the reason for no supporters is you can't find them.lol..

 

[KungFuLee]

That's a wild claim,so I guess internatinal press conference are not needed for any governments in the future cause they don't mean much internationally.

Wild Claim? What kind of rock you were living under? UN have more than a dozens of representative. And I am not the one that uses UN to compare to a so called "International" press conference. I am also not the one that say "Dozens" of reporter represent the whole world.

If you think like this, your "World View" is not really that much TBH

Anyone can claim they are right, the reason for no supporters is you can't find them.lol..

Again, go watch the youtube video of that conference, all the comment were there.

Also, there are no one supporting your claim as well other than a news piece come form China Foreign Office, that hardly trustworthy.