Some doubts in urdu

[dravidianhero]

Can the following words be written with stress
محمد -محمھد
حقہ -حقھہ
متحد - متھحد
کتا - کتھا
بچوں -بچھوں
What was the need to write such words without a stress when there is a symbol for stress?

 

[Sinnerman108]

Can the following words be written with stress
محمد -محمھد
حقہ -حقھہ
متحد - متھحد
کا ثا -کثھا
بچوں -بچھوں
What was the need to write such words without a stress when there is a symbol for stress?

Yeah
It is callled SHADD

It is a punctuation placed on any alphabet to emphasize on it.

 

[dravidianhero]

Yeah
It is callled SHADD

It is a punctuation placed on any alphabet to emphasize on it.

But that symbol is not placed in books? WHY?

 

[Sinnerman108]

But that symbol is not placed in books? WHY?

My keyboard doesn't allow me to put that or other " اعراب"

The language whereby those symbols were used is long gone ...

Both urdu as well as arabic.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

The "ھ" letter is not required. Why are they using it for stress ?

Look at people speaking Urdu in the media and even the Muslim scholars they mix English with Urdu. These people cannot speak Urdu without using English words and vice a versa. I like Nihari and Rasgulla but never mix them together in one plate and eat it ! Can't all these idiots speak Urdu only and English only without mixing them !!

 

[Al Bhatti]

محمّد
متّحد
کتّا
بچّوں

The "ھ" letter is not required. Why are they using it for stress ?

Look at people speaking Urdu in the media and even the Muslim scholars they mix English with Urdu. These people cannot speak Urdu without using English words and vice a versa. I like Nihari and Rasgulla but never mix them together in one plate and eat it ! Can't all these idiots speak Urdu only and English only without mixing them !!

Not only that, they do countless murder and torture to the Urdu spellings and grammar.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Not only that, they do countless murder and torture to the Urdu spellings and grammar.

They speak Urdu terribly and do the same when they write it. You can't expect much from the idiots.

 

[dravidianhero]

My keyboard doesn't allow me to put that or other " اعراب"

The language whereby those symbols were used is long gone ...

Both urdu as well as arabic.

Our indian languages have a specific symbol for every syllable..I find urdu more difficult than Roman script without those symbols.At least in English we write Muhammad instead of Muhammad,Kuttaa instead kataa etc.

I have another doubt..
ذمین- ضمین،ظمین
Is there any difference of sound you can find in those ض،ذ،ظ

طوطا and توتا the same
I can find the difference in the sounds of غ and گ and ق and ک
but not sure of others

P's:I feel ھ symbol is required..I can understand leaving out zers and peshs as news paper printing becomes messy with those symbols.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

ذمین- زمین،ظمین

طوطا and توتا

ق and ک have different prounounciation. But you are not alone many pronounce it the same. Its K and Q while Q or ق are deeply pronounced K. In French D and T are softy pronounced while it English they are deeply pronounced. Perso Arabic script is not easy you are not alone in confusion.

 

[dravidianhero]

ذمین- زمین،ظمین

طوطا and توتا

ق and ک have different prounounciation. But you are not alone many pronounce it the same. Its K and Q while Q or ق are deeply pronounced K. In French D and T are softy pronounced while it English they are deeply pronounced. Perso Arabic script is not easy you are not alone in confusion.

I didn't ask about ک and ق..my question was regarding ز،ظand ض
ط and ت؟

 

[dravidianhero]

What is this? Is there no one to clear my doubts.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

You have these doubts because true pronunciation of Urdu words is not possible by using Roman letters. you can get your answer in here

Urdu: Changed pronunciation of some Arabic letters | WordReference Forums

 

[Sinnerman108]

I didn't ask about ک and ق..my question was regarding ز،ظand ض
ط and ت؟

These alphabets are borrowed from arabic.

ض is pronounced as Zuad
Thus, ضمير should be pronounced as ZDameer with Z almost ending up silent
However over a period of time, the Zuad pronunciation has diluted.
similarly
ظ is pronounced as Zua

However over time, those words have become diluted too.