Solving Pakistan Navy's Ship Problem

[Basel]

what is important is that even if we keep ships in small numbers like 6 - 8 they should be state of the art advance Stealth ships with good all round capabilities, backed by advance SSKs 8 al least, then PN will be able to handle any threat much better even with small force.

 

[Sankpal]

Forget destroyer or frigates.... increase your subs fleets.. simple

 

[Luftwaffe]

Forget destroyer or frigates.... increase your subs fleets.. simple

Smart choice but problem is again funding and over the top maintaining submarines is more complex and expensive they are sophisticated. For Pakistan the possible 6 Chinese submarines and 3 Agosta submarines are enough.

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

Is it correct that pakistan is buying chineese type 052 frigates and Qinq class double hulled submarines in near future?????

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Is it correct that pakistan is buying chineese type 052 frigates and Qinq class double hulled submarines in near future?????

Type 052 ships are not frigates , they are destroyers and Qing class subs are not fully operational yet they are still undergoing testing in China's People's Liberation Army Navy.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Is it correct that Pakistan is buying Chinese type 052 frigates and Qinq class double hulled submarines in near future?????

No Type 52 Destroyers are not for sale, currently Pakistan has ordered 4 more Improved F-22P Frigates. We do not know exactly which Chinese submarines have been ordered by PN.

If anything advanced frigates to be ordered in the future it could be Type 54A or the B variant development announced in 2013, the price tag is anywhere between $275m-300m

 

[Sankpal]

No Type 52 Destroyers are not for sale, currently Pakistan has ordered 4 more Improved F-22P Frigates. We do not know exactly which Chinese submarines have been ordered by PN.

If anything advanced frigates to be ordered in the future it could be Type 54A or the B variant development announced in 2013, the price tag is anywhere between $275m-300m

As u said, not having fund so how u r saying that will going to purchase type 54a or 6 more subs..

SOFT LOANS?????

 

[Luftwaffe]

As u said, not having fund so how u r saying that will going to purchase type 54a or 6 more subs..

SOFT LOANS?????

No, I said if anything in the future in a far far future it could be Type 54A/B this is the only advanced frigate after F-22p/Type 053H3.

The special budget has already been allocated for submarines and additional 4 F-22P Frigates.

 

[Penguin]

I've put forward an F22P development on several occasions but folks here don't like it, they insist on Type054A or at the very least that 3700 ton 'high performance rigate' design... as if either is a) affordable and b) a game changer.

Here an F22P development being built for Algeria, called C28A. It features a replacement of the stack/exhaust uptake with waterline exhausting, freeing up space for a different radar set, as well as a Thales Smart S Mk2 radar and CMS. Just putting in Sylver A35 launcher with quadpacked VT1 gives better self-defence coverage relative to F22P, without a need to change much in terms of e.g. missile director. Using Sylver A43 with quadpacked CAMM or equivalent length Mk41 Self defence launcher with quadpacked ESSM would be even better. CAMM would have my vote as it doesn't rely on radar directors or illuminators for missile guidance, only on a 2D or 3D main radar for targeting.

What F23P could look like, based on C-28A: first now afloat.

News of C28A for Algerian NavyReal-time updates | Page 9

 

[Penguin]

SIze comparision Type 056 and C-28A (F22P comparable mod)

 

[nomi007]

C-28A is good choice
but navy need more fund to be a world class navy

 

[Penguin]

C-28A is good choice
but navy need more fund to be a world class navy

A locally built development of F22P, along lines of C-28A but with VLS would be an answer to the problem of block obsolescence

 

[Basel]

why not locally built Type 51A with VLS?

 

[Interceptor2014]

I think there is better option for any Muslim Navy other than Submarines.

I think there is better option for any Muslim Navy other than Submarines.

 

[Friei Indien]

Smart choice but problem is again funding and over the top maintaining submarines is more complex and expensive they are sophisticated. For Pakistan the possible 6 Chinese submarines and 3 Agosta submarines are enough.

we have reasons to believe that agostas are very much better, more silent and potent as compared to chinese subs. but will the french enter into any kind of military contract with pakistan in the face of burgeioning Indo-French defence cooperation? Scorpene subs acquired by IN can be regarded as an advance version of Agaostas.