Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

[syedali73]

You people are really into serious stuff, my collection includes only and only "Naseem Hijazi" the rest, some of them I read but never thought to buy and keep with me, but Naseem Hijazi sb. ki bat he kuch alag thi

Naseem Hijazi has his place in Urdu fiction, at-least I will give him that. I hope you are not reading his novels considering them historically correct for they are anything but historical accounts. Urdu fiction, well you must read Ibn-e-Safi.

 

[I.R.A]

Naseem Hijazi has his place in Urdu fiction, at-least I will give him that. I hope you are not reading his novels considering them historically correct for they are anything but historical accounts. Urdu fiction, well you must read Ibn-e-Safi.

I read him for fiction, and those were my college days, but I kept the books so whenever I feel like reading him again I pick up one and start all over as if I am reading it for the first time, I admire his skills to engage the reader (at least me) the way he draws the sketch of events, surroundings, characters gets me lost in it. "Insan or Deota" would be a good example of that.

The most serious book that I ever read was Mumtaz Mufti's Ali Poor ka Aili, Shahab Nama was lengthy but good enough to read, Wasif Ali Wasif I could not digest. Which book would you suggest I should read? Like must read once..............

 

[syedali73]

I read him for fiction, and those were my college days, but I kept the books so whenever I feel like reading him again I pick up one and start all over as if I am reading it for the first time, I admire his skills to engage the reader (at least me) the way he draws the sketch of events, surroundings, characters gets me lost in it. "Insan or Deota" would be a good example of that.

The most serious book that I ever read was Mumtaz Mufti's Ali Poor ka Aili, Shahab Nama was lengthy but good enough to read, Wasif Ali Wasif I could not digest. Which book would you suggest I should read? Like must read once..............

I would have suggested Ali Pur Ka Aili, not an easy to digest novel by Mufti Saheb. Many readers do not realize that it is not totally factious and has elements from Mufti Saheb's real life. It should be considered as a pseudo-auto biography of Mumtaz Mufti Saheb. Shahab Nama you have already read. I don't know if you have flair for short stories and nothing comes close to Manto and Krishan Chandar. Yes, Josh Malih Abadi's autobiography 'Yaadon Ki Barat', I'll surely recommend that. There is a book 'Dilli jo ek Sheher tha' by Mullah Wahidi, a relatively concise book but for those who want to understand about Delhi of 1900-1947 and the personalities of that time.

 

[Spring Onion]

Please donate it to some library or pass on to someone who could make good use of this book.

So what do you suggest what would be good use of it?

Why this book is important in your opinion for women ?

 

[I.R.A]

I would have suggested Ali Pur Ka Aili, not an easy to digest novel by Mufti Saheb. Many readers do not realize that it is not totally factious and has elements from Mufti Saheb's real life. It should be considered as a pseudo-auto biography of Mumtaz Mufti Saheb. Shahab Nama you have already read. I don't know if you have flair for short stories and nothing comes close to Manto and Krishan Chandar. Yes, Josh Malih Abadi's autobiography 'Yaadon Ki Barat', I'll surely recommend that. There is a book 'Dilli jo ek Sheher tha' by Mullah Wahidi, a relatively concise book but for those who want to understand about Delhi of 1900-1947 and the personalities of that time.

I will give a try to "Yaadon Ki Barat" , "Dilli jo ek Sheher tha" seems like more of a history so history is too boring for me.

 

[Zarvan]

So what do you suggest what would be good use of it?

Why this book is important in your opinion for women ?

Quran with translation reading lives of Wives and daughters of PROPHET SAW and Islamic books like tafseer and Hadees and others

 

[Zarvan]

I will give a try to "Yaadon Ki Barat" , "Dilli jo ek Sheher tha" seems like more of a history so history is too boring for me.

Have you read any tafseer ?

 

[syedali73]

So what do you suggest what wold be good use of it?

Why this book is important in your opinion for women ?

Well, if you have not read it during all this time when it was part of your library, why would you want to know about it from me? This book is not for women alone but does cover issues and in depth pertaining to women. Just open it up and glance through it. My father advised me to read all sorts of books, good ones and not so good ones. His argument was that if a person does not get to read not so good books, how would he appreciate the quality of good reads? Famous drama writer Agha Hashar Kashmiri used to read anything printed on a piece of paper. Charagh Hasan Hasrat wrote about him: "I went to see Agha Saheb. While we were talking, his servant had returned back with grocery. Agha saheb asked "What is wrapped in that piece of paper? Sugar? OK, put it in the jar and bring the piece of paper to me. It appears to me something worth reading". I have read the same about Deewan Singh Maftoon by Manto.

 

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Quran with translation reading lives of Wives and daughters of PROPHET SAW and Islamic books like tafseer and Hadees and others

Zarvan i asked Syedali not you. Since i have grave difference of opinion with yours so I wont give much weight to your opinion on most religious issues specially on women

 

[syedali73]

I will give a try to "Yaadon Ki Barat" , "Dilli jo ek Sheher tha" seems like more of a history so history is too boring for me.

Bhai, I am a beaten up and old parrot. I can recommend you what I read or appreciate. I do not have flare for new writers for I do not like the quality of their work. Besides, I like to read autobiographies, short stories (novels are not my cup of tea, too lengthy), religious books, particularly on Tassawwuf but I do not recommend those reads to everybody.

 

[Spring Onion]

Well, if you have not read it during all this time when it was part of your library, why would you want to know about it from me? This book is not for women alone but does cover issues and in depth pertaining to women. Just open it up and glance through it. My father advised me to read all sorts of books, good ones and not so good ones. His argument was that if a person does not get to read not so good books, how would he appreciate the quality of good reads? Famous drama writer Agha Hashar Kashmiri used to read anything printed on a piece of paper. Charagh Hasan Hasrat wrote about him: "I went to see Agha Saheb. While we were talking, his servant had returned with grocery. Agha saheb asked "What is wrapped in that piece of paper? Sugar? OK, put it in the jar and bring the piece of paper to me. It appears to me something worth reading". I have read the same about Deewan Singh Maftoon by Manto.

1. I did read some of it when i was in 7th grade but since you cannot compare the comprehension level of yours when you are in 7th with that when you are a masters degree holder.

2. Then you must praise me for same habit which Agha saheb had as my father had specially encouraged me to read everything and I remember reading such pieces of paper wherein we used to buy either bread or other such grocery items. Opening the envelop carefully and read.

3. I have studied everything under the sun from religious books to modern science even literature that is considered vulgar but since as you mentioned your father had encouraged reading to understand what is to be appreciated of what really is literature, same goes with me.

 

[I.R.A]

Have you read any tafseer ?

Quran Pak with translation and short notes on the side columns, but never went for full fledge Tafseer, because for my limited capacity I did not feel like reading a Tafseer to understand complex matters.

Bhai, I am a beaten up and old parrot. I can recommend you what I read or appreciate. I do not have flare for new writers for I do not like the quality of their work. Besides, I like to read autobiographies, short stories (novels are not my cup of tea, too lengthy), religious books, particularly on Tassawwuf but I do not recommend those reads to everybody.

Sir ji Tassawwuf ka he to poch raha ho, anything on the lines of Shahab Nama or Ali Pur Ka Aili, for novels I wouls suggest "Razia Butt"

 

[syedali73]

1. I did read some of it when i was in 7th grade but since you cannot compare the comprehension level of yours when you are in 7th with that when you are a masters degree holder.

2. Then you must praise me for same habit which Agha saheb had as my father had specially encouraged me to read everything and I remember reading such pieces of paper wherein we used to buy either bread or other such grocery items. Opening the envelop carefully and read.

3. I have studied everything under the sun from religious books to modern science even literature that is considered vulgar but since as you mentioned your father had encouraged reading to understand what is to be appreciated of what really is literature, same goes with me.

Interesting. My elder sister used to read novels from Guy de Maupassant, she was at convent and I guess picked up flair for his work from her colleagues. I read some work from Maupassant though I received some beating from my sister too for his work is sort of vulgur. At any rate, when I read Manto, I forgot Maupassant for Manto was/is as vulgar (well) but wow, just wow.

 

[Zarvan]

Zarvan i asked Syedali not you. Since i have grave difference of opinion with yours so I wont give much weight to your opinion on most religious issues specially on women

I told you to read because I thought you are a Muslim and if I am right than read Quran and Tafseer and Hadees and lives of RASOOL SAW. I just tell what ALLAH has told in Quran and his RASOOL SAW in his Ahadees and Sunnah so if you issues with that I can't do anything but ALLAH knows how to deal with people.

 

[syedali73]

Sir ji Tassawwuf ka he to poch raha ho, anything on the lines of Shahab Nama or Ali Pur Ka Aili, for novels I wouls suggest "Razia Butt"

OK, try 'Tazkira e Ghusiah' by Hazrat Ghous Ali Shah Qalandar Qadri. Mushtaq Book Corner, Urdu Bazar Lahore. I warn you however that Urdu is pretty non-standard as per today's norms.