I'm not going to compare with any other ASEAN members with Pakistan.they needed Leverage.they gave you a land they never had(or may i say illegally possessed).and best buddies??Nope.if today USA offers a large sum just to rejoin USA's camp leaving China alone,they'll do in a blink of an eye.we already had enough mambo jumbo of them.
but the point is diplomatic solution is always preferred by us than any war.but we(and other Asean Countries) retained our control over disputed land without any "Leverage" from another country.Retreating of USa barely going to change that.
That's exactly what I said, negotiations not war. If we wanted to go to war we could at any time, but we didn't. And US leaving is going to change things. We already control most of the "disputed" islands, except Diaoyu, and a few others way down south. We have effective control over most of the shoals close to us.
USA isn't an "Import Country"..they're actually largest Producer in many sectors.if China back off,USA just will find another country who can support their need.see,India already has become many of these Multinational Company's favorite destination despite all the problems we has.the reason is predictability and democracy.don't know why you are mentioning about "Diesel Sub" all of a sudden,but now,they can purchase the best one as France,Germany-all are their allies.actually USA purchase a massive amount of weapon from foreign companies.
and they're not "retreating to Guam".contrary,they're just massively expanding the Guam base,along with trying to get around 2 bases near SCS.Vietnam and Philippines are offering their bases.if everything goes well,you might see USN in either Subic Bay or Kam Ranh Bay.
I know they are not, but you make it sound like if they don't import from us we die, but they are just bruised, but in fact we both die. India can't do what China does, the fact that you haven't and is slowing worse than we are at a earlier stage is indication of that.
You maybe able to do it one day, but today, no.
The Sub reference is US can make a keyboard and other things, but it's been so long that they don't have the staff and factories for those any more and if sudden;y cut off they can't just expect massive supplies suddenly appearing, so inflation will be a huge problem, not to mention shortage of goods.
yup.Japan had.but it was a smaller country as well.but all of a sudden,they controlled largest empire humans had ever witnessed.your economy is rising only after 1979.don't say thats wrong.USA is still your prime importer and largest credit holder.any fall out in relationship and both will loose heavily.USA has others to support their Economy,cause everybody knows,if US Economy crashes,world will be doomed.which country China has???
What does it matter when our economy started to rise? Japan had a empire not even bigger than China, we still held more land than Japan did. Look at a map. The point is while Japanese can never compete economically, we will and have. For every dollar the US uses we can also use, while not spending more in terms of percentage soon. Again If you think the world's second biggest economy disappears and the world won't go into a great depression, ok then.
again "High End Warships" and bragging.see,I want to remind you about battle of Yalu River.China didn't loose that due to their "Inferior Weapons".actually,China had enough to crush entire Jap fleet.but end of that war,almost entire Baidung Fleet got annihilated.I can show that even massive numbers of aircrafts along with more Acs meant nearly nothing if your tactics aren't sound.you should study Battle of Midway.plus,"record braking speed"???perhaps for China.USA produced hnearly 160 escort carriers along with dozens fleet and light carriers.I chose to ignore other ships.thats called production speed.number isn't a problem.if you've money,you can always make a large fleet.but you should also take it consideration that if your crew is worthy or not.
High end warships is for all to see, you can check out all the models I listed in that post and google it and see what you think, of course there might be a lot of research, to get a clear picture. There's a few topics in the Chinese forum if you want to check it out.
That was war time, if we are to go that route we can also do it, we are the world's biggest ship building nation. And it's, thr names are all wrong, but you are not Chinese so no problem. Beiyang fleet was destroyed cause they had massive funding problems, in the end the ships weren't maintained and no ammunition. a few of the ships were basically just cannons cause they can't leave the harbor. Don't kid yourself, the commanders of both fleets graduated from the same academy at around the same time. Both countries choose literally the best they had to offer and sent them to study.
Besides, we are decades behind US when we started modernization, will US ships were superior to Japanese ships, they just didn't have a lot. Break neck speed was more the speed of technology research.
The battle of midway had many reasons, but technology played a key role as did tactics yes. Our crew is educated, mostly university graduated, and had years of training. Domestic education to go with foreign training is the road China is taking for officers.
ARt of War didn't taught you how to beat Japanse,right???so,it'll not help you now.and Flying Tigers aren't key factors???why don't you say that China could single handedly beat Japan at their mainland???Flying Tigers alone destroyed over 300 aircrafts when China didn't had an airforce to speck of.and India's tactics???shouldn't you study more about 1965 or 1971 war???plus,what I said about China is true.I can show you study of each war,case by case where you could found that in each war,china bogged down for months,if not years.plus,I'm open about Tactics,you can discuss whenever you want.you may get the knowledge you'll need.there is reason why western world suspect about "Chinese Armed Force's Training"..
Yes it did, art of war isn't a specific wartime strategy like guns, swords, it's more the general mind set. Japanese had 20,000 aircrafts, and 2 million troops in China, but 300 downed aircrafts was key. Come on man, they didn't even begin until the stalemate happened.
We didn't defeat them, but our tactics were sound, we had soldiers who try to lit cigs with light bulbs cause they don't know what a light bulb is. No guns, just swords, for a lot of them. 3-4 cannons for a division. No trucks or even good shoes. Little food.
It was because we knew how to fight that we were able to stop them.
Regarding India, I said against a power, like Korean war, could India have done what we did? Doubtful, especially given Indian performance against Pakistan.
Chinese arm forces' training is sound, our military is not closed off to others, we know what everyone else does.
Western media criticizes Chinese flying hours and real battle situation trainings, but our flying hours is 200, more than some and in line with Western standards. While live battle training is also becoming regular. We have a dog fight competition that awards "golden" helmets, a very prestigious award that every pilot wants and innovate and train hard to get.
Western media criticizes Chinese political study, but they don't understand these studies, these are also training studies, sounding out problems and putting problems into the open, mental counseling sometimes and all kinds of different meetings, that helps with a soldier's mental state and welfare as well as determination, motivation. In the west, they just don't call it this, but same deal.
Then in terms of actual tactics, China places utmost importance in education, the principle of the Central military school is a Lt. General, China's highest rank. China places a lot of resource on research past and develop new tactics.
Commanders of all levels are asked to innovate new tactics. The slogan these days are infantry specialization. Getting normal infantry familiar with information warfare, special forces tactics and increase training intensity and education requirement and training.
A recent earthquake showed Chinese army mobilized and on the way to affected areas, information gathering and all troop movement as well as equipment used was right on the money. Foreign media was allowed transparent coverage and praised the effort, and quite a few military experts were impressed.
In terms of navy, domestic education, foreign training, a generation of extremely capable and educated officer corp and educated sailor corp. Extensive study of every naval battle from history and developing new tactics and testing them with increasing drill frequency.
What other tactics should we talk about?
