Sino-Bangladesh road link

[CardSharp]

You fuckin idiot you are accusing my parents of stealing money from Government of India.

Yes, that is what I was doing. A+ on your reading comprehension, no wonder you're in Harvard.

You fuckin idiot you are accusing my parents of stealing money from Government of India. Both my parents are born rich you moron.

Both parents born rich and went into government service for what is essentially nothing compared to what they must already have? Now that is a lie and if you lied your money, I'm probably right about everything.

You're going to make a terrible businessman, you can't hold your own on anything. That is unless your parents will "help" you with business when you return to India.

 

[sunny001]

Yes, that is what I was doing. A+ on your reading comprehension, no wonder you're in Harvard.



Both parents born rich and went into government service for what is essentially nothing compared to what they must already have? Now that is a lie and if you lied your money, I'm probably right about everything.

You're going to make a terrible businessman, you can't hold your own on anything. That is unless your parents will "help" you with business when you return to India.

They did not join Govt as sweepers you moron. They joined as Govt officers. Back in 1980's, they were the only respectable jobs available in India.

 

[eastwatch]

Dude that's exactly what I said. You just repeating my statements. No country has trade surplus with China. If Bangladesh wants to do trade with China, it has to brace for still larger negative current account. Because trade would be mostly one sided.

China has only recently opened its huge market for more than 4,800 BD-made industrial products. A 40% value added in BD will be regarded by China as made in Bangladesh. Now, the ball is in the BD court.

A trade imbalance with China will decrease if only BD can produce enough electricity to power its industries. Only then it is possible to reap the benefit out of this Chinese generosity.

Not only that, investors from China itself and also from Korea and Japan want to build manufacturing facilities in BD. This is why China needs this road link with BD via Burma.

Yes, BD has some issues with Burma, and the coordial reception in Delhi of that autocrat Burmese Junta Chief by the PM of world's so-called largest democracy only a few weeks ago was only intended to inflame the situation.

Nevertheless, BD will get over the issues when UNO arbitration committe declares its verdict on the sea territory in the BoB. Meanwhile, the BD-China road project is not at all hanging on the air. BD and China are working together with the Burmese govt to get this project started.

BD wants Chittagong to become a regional center for sea and land trade. As such, without a Chinese access to this proposed new deep sea-port, this $10 billion project would be a white elephant. So, we need Chinese assistance to build and also the Chinese market to make an operating profit out of this new port.

Doing direct trade, allowing Chinese companies in BD and then doing all those service related shipment/transport jobs for China, BD will certainly be able to decrease its trade imbalance with China.

But, note that in theory BD is not supposed to have any deficit with India, because we have free sea and land ports with that country. But, why does it happen? It is only because, India is not sincere with BD.

Indian minds are not open, it is just selfish, talks and smiles sweet, promises sweetly, but delivers none. It sells goods worth more than $2,500 million to BD, but imports less than $350 million worth of goods from it.

 

[Awesome]

What is the supposed map of this road link?

 

[eastwatch]

Bengladesh unlike vietnam is surrounded by India from 3 sides.Even the ships coming to BD hvae to pass the eyes of the Indian Navy.However you look at it if you think you can have bad relations with India and live happily is not gonna happen.I mean its easy to do a patriotic chest thumping but to face reality is a nother issue

Talking of your statement that 3-sides of BD is surrounded by India. If it is a reality, then why India trembles at the thought of a BD-China connectivity? Look at the map and think like a military strategist.

You will see that your NE is blocked from direct entry due to BD presence. So, in reality, your NE will be your liabilty, and not an asset, in times of wars, and will collapse in a prolonged war.

Even today, you are begging BD to get your industrial machineries through BD land. How do you expect to reinforce your troops with logistics when there is a war? As such, like it or not, India has, in reality, only an one-sided border with BD. It is on the west of Bangladesh.

 

[eastwatch]

What is the supposed map of this road link?

A new deep sea port will be built near Cox's Bazaar. The road starts there, and go to east to enter Burmese border. About 23 km (BD govt has already offered Burma to build this road with its own money) inside burma, the road will go north and then north-east to the Chinese border, where it will enter the Chinese Province of Qunming.

From Cox's Bazaar this Chinese Province may be only 400 km away, whereas from the Chinese eastern ports it may be 2000 km away. Moreover, to get to Shanghai and other Chinese ports the ships have to travel another 6000 km via Malacca Strait. Using the new CTG port may shorten delivery time to the Chinese mid-south by at least 45 days.

 

[idune]

This is infact a old story thread.

1) Bangladesh will never let India to host any strategic installation like port in BD's soil. No government ever will dare to do that. Why? The simple answer "WE DONT TRUST INDIANS".
2) Bangladesh will never let any Indian oil and gas companies the right to explore. Why? The answer is "WE DONT TRUST INDIANS".
3) Bangladesh will not let Indian vehicle to go unattended in the name of transit. The anwser is again "SECURITY AND TRUST".
4) Bangaldesh will never buy military hardware from India. Why? Again "WE DONT TRUST INDIANS".
6) China will start constructing the Deep Sea Port from January next month. We just love to see Indian concern on that. But India could do $hit about it.
7) We will construct Chittagong-Kumming rail and road link and the work already started long before so called Asian Highway synonym of Indian corridor. We got our priority set. China is more important than India.

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From 1-5 right reading of Bangladeshi sentiment but for item 6 and 7, these should be correct course of actions but in question mark given Awami regime actions. There are visible sign that people within Awami regime actively working to fail item 6-7. That's why we see so many fairy tales about indian debt trap yet Hasina's success in securing almost 0 interest Korean loan and duty free access of Bangladeshi products are virtually kept out of media.

How India is beneficial to us.
1) We want to sell our products to 1 billion Indian consumer.
2) We want to make money through transit.
3) We want Indian cotton, maise, onions, iron ore and other raw material for our Indsutrialised country and sell the finished product back to India and make more and more money.

India is just our money making machine for future.. Nothing

These could be nice wish lists but these will never materialize even if Awami regime is in power and give everything india wants.

 

[Jade]

Talking of your statement that 3-sides of BD is surrounded by India. If it is a reality, then why India trembles at the thought of a BD-China connectivity? Look at the map and think like a military strategist.

You will see that your NE is blocked from direct entry due to BD presence. So, in reality, your NE will be your liabilty, and not an asset, in times of wars, and will collapse in a prolonged war.

Even today, you are begging BD to get your industrial machineries through BD land. How do you expect to reinforce your troops with logistics when there is a war? As such, like it or not, India has, in reality, only an one-sided border with BD. It is on the west of Bangladesh.

If you are thinking like a military strategist, you simply cannot ignore the side of Bangladesh that is bordering the Bay of Bengal. India being one of the best Navies would certainly make BD life hell…and please don’t harbor any thoughts of cutting NE from the rest of India…I am sure India would go any length to defend its territorial Integrity…and please don’t put all your eggs in the Chinese basket. China is tough customer and is about self interest as it is been proved during four wars of Indo-Pak.

Some people might disagree; however, Bangladesh is as important to Indian security as India is important to Bangladesh security. Anyway, I don’t see any major issues that could crop up between India and Bangladesh that would lead to a war…In fact I see Bangladesh as a major ally

 

[Che]

China should increase the connections to BD, right now we are lacking in this aspect. little poeple in our countries know each other well.

 

[sunny001]

China has only recently opened its huge market for more than 4,800 BD-made industrial products. A 40% value added in BD will be regarded by China as made in Bangladesh. Now, the ball is in the BD court.

A trade imbalance with China will decrease if only BD can produce enough electricity to power its industries. Only then it is possible to reap the benefit out of this Chinese generosity.

Not only that, investors from China itself and also from Korea and Japan want to build manufacturing facilities in BD. This is why China needs this road link with BD via Burma.

Yes, BD has some issues with Burma, and the coordial reception in Delhi of that autocrat Burmese Junta Chief by the PM of world's so-called largest democracy only a few weeks ago was only intended to inflame the situation.

Nevertheless, BD will get over the issues when UNO arbitration committe declares its verdict on the sea territory in the BoB. Meanwhile, the BD-China road project is not at all hanging on the air. BD and China are working together with the Burmese govt to get this project started.

BD wants Chittagong to become a regional center for sea and land trade. As such, without a Chinese access to this proposed new deep sea-port, this $10 billion project would be a white elephant. So, we need Chinese assistance to build and also the Chinese market to make an operating profit out of this new port.

Doing direct trade, allowing Chinese companies in BD and then doing all those service related shipment/transport jobs for China, BD will certainly be able to decrease its trade imbalance with China.

But, note that in theory BD is not supposed to have any deficit with India, because we have free sea and land ports with that country. But, why does it happen? It is only because, India is not sincere with BD.

Indian minds are not open, it is just selfish, talks and smiles sweet, promises sweetly, but delivers none. It sells goods worth more than $2,500 million to BD, but imports less than $350 million worth of goods from it.

Bangladesh and China trade

In the past year, Bangladesh’s imports from China amounted to $4,442 million. Exports in 2009 had registered 7 per cent increase year-on-year to $141 million.

Which one is more favorable to Bangladesh?

Source:Trade with China on a robust rise again | Bangladesh Economic News

 

[TopCat]

Bangladesh and China trade

In the past year, Bangladesh’s imports from China amounted to $4,442 million. Exports in 2009 had registered 7 per cent increase year-on-year to $141 million.

Which one is more favorable to Bangladesh?

Source:Trade with China on a robust rise again | Bangladesh Economic News

Chinese cheap products are just blessing for the countries like BD where a huge percentage of people cant afford to buy industrial products. Chinese just changed that and so that the quality of life improved significantly with existing income.

2nd, small industries are totally dependent on Chinese capital machineries who cant afford any european or american machines priced 10 to 20 times higher than chinese. Chinese industry in a way helped us industrialised not the other way around.

Just trying to look at the broader picture.

 

[idune]

First, china has given duty free access to Bangladesh in almost anything Bangladesh can produce. Even US refused to provide that. Now Bangladesh can take balance of trade in her favor if business and govt pursue right policy and strategy. So bringing up trade gap is not starter and irrelevant in presnt reality.

Second, China is not only major and to be most important trade partner, China is also strategic partner for last 4 decades. So Bangladesh-China relation is multi dimensional and can not be judged only on trade value. No matter how much indians try to deceive these facts no one even most Awami fans are not buying indian lines.

Third, how Bangladesh conduct its relation with China or any other country and what should be considered in relation, is matter for Bangladesh. NOT india or indians to jump on.

 

[eastwatch]

If you are thinking like a military strategist, you simply cannot ignore the side of Bangladesh that is bordering the Bay of Bengal. India being one of the best Navies would certainly make BD life hell…and please don’t harbor any thoughts of cutting NE from the rest of India…I am sure India would go any length to defend its territorial Integrity…and please don’t put all your eggs in the Chinese basket. China is tough customer and is about self interest as it is been proved during four wars of Indo-Pak.

Some people might disagree; however, Bangladesh is as important to Indian security as India is important to Bangladesh security. Anyway, I don’t see any major issues that could crop up between India and Bangladesh that would lead to a war…In fact I see Bangladesh as a major ally

Simply speaking, Bangladeshi population do not like at all Indian security embrace. This is why every political Party, during its time in power, goes away at least a mile away from Indian love. This govt is no different.

In lieu of its all the outward showing of true love, it is certainly making a big leap forward in its quest for Chinese friendship. India cannot do anything about it except, perhaps, sending a secret mission to kill a group of leaders.

BD is taking its time to make an about turn only because it wants to build its economy first. This is more of a reason that we want a direct road link to China and also want to build the deep sea-port with the Chinese assistance.

About your navy, when you come to burn the eastern enemy ships, you will keep your western sea to be burned by some other enemy. You are in between two or more enemies to tackle. Think of that. And, do not forget to take care of your NE, too.

By the way, how would you like to put an embargo on our ports? By your pot bellies and big mouth only? See the map to know how vast a sea is.

 

[eastwatch]

Bangladesh and China trade

In the past year, Bangladesh’s imports from China amounted to $4,442 million. Exports in 2009 had registered 7 per cent increase year-on-year to $141 million.

Which one is more favorable to Bangladesh?

Source:Trade with China on a robust rise again | Bangladesh Economic News

You are talking of the past and we are planning for the future. By the way, it is very natural that the imbalance with China will remain as it is, because BD will be buying Chinese industrial machineries, capital goods in economic term, for tens of years.

But, with this purchase BD's industrial production base will also be increasing, and BD will be exporting many cheap goods to the world market, except perhaps the market in the DADA country. By a simple assumption, as written in the books of economics, that if the capital/output ratio is set at 3:1, then a $3 billion machinery import from China will raise our industrial output by $1 billion. So, in only 3 to 4 years, we will be recouping our capital investment.

Moreover, many of the purchases from China can also be financed from the earnings that we will make when the Chinese use our port and road facilities in order to bring goods to their border, and vice versa. So, we do not have to lose anything.

 

[ChinaChina]

He said that I was not fed right by my parents, so my brain didn't evolve. I take it personally, and as an insult to my parents and my intellect. Anyways, who the hell do you think you are? I am studying there, I am proud of it. I would go with the name dropping as I wish. Who the f*** are you to judge me? Go and mind your f***** business alright. It's between me and him.

I have made almost 200 posts, this is my 2nd post where I mentioned my education. That too because he called me a brain dead person and insulted my parents. So, spare me of your rhetoric. Don't go around judging people, who you know through an obscure forum.

oh yeah and i study maths and physics at OXFORD believe that u believe in anything. looooool