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Sidhu stirs new controversy, prefers Pakistan over South India

Ironically, Jinnah and Muslim league were ready to give up the idea of Pakistan as late as 1946 ... But the Congress rejected the Cabinet Mission Proposals and opted for Partition but still Muslim League gets all the blame!!

Congress was equally (if not more) responsible for the partition ... Jinnah was ready to give up his demand of a separate Muslim homeland as late as 1946 when he accepted the Cabinet Mission Plan, Congress rejected the plan which promised united India



In words of Maulana Azad:

" Looking back after ten years, I concede that there was force in what Mr.Jinnah said. The Congress and the League were both parties to the agreement, and it was on the basis of distribution among the center, the provinces and the groups that the League had accepted the plan. Congress was neither wise nor right in raising doubts. It should have accepted the Plan unequivocally if it stood for the unity of India. Vacillation would give Mr.Jinnah the opportunity to divide India."

Because Cabinet Mission Plan still divided Hindus and Muslims which Congress opposed tooth and nail.

Muslim League gets all the blame!!

It is not the question of blame. I am just stating the facts. Not supporting one or the other.
 
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Because Cabinet Mission Plan still divided Hindus and Muslims which Congress opposed tooth and nail.

It promised a United India ...
Congress did not want to share power with Muslim League in united India
So they chose "Udhar tum, Idhar hum"
 
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Ironically, Jinnah and Muslim league were ready to give up the idea of Pakistan as late as 1946 ... But the Congress rejected the Cabinet Mission Proposals and opted for Partition but still Muslim League gets all the blame!!

Congress was equally (if not more) responsible for the partition ... Jinnah was ready to give up his demand of a separate Muslim homeland as late as 1946 when he accepted the Cabinet Mission Plan, Congress rejected the plan which promised united India



In words of Maulana Azad:

" Looking back after ten years, I concede that there was force in what Mr.Jinnah said. The Congress and the League were both parties to the agreement, and it was on the basis of distribution among the center, the provinces and the groups that the League had accepted the plan. Congress was neither wise nor right in raising doubts. It should have accepted the Plan unequivocally if it stood for the unity of India. Vacillation would give Mr.Jinnah the opportunity to divide India."

Do you even know what the Cabinet mission plan offered ?
 
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Because Cabinet Mission Plan still divided Hindus and Muslims which Congress opposed tooth and nail.

It is not the question of blame. I am just stating the facts. Not supporting one or the other.

Errr .. WRONG.

Congress approved of the Cabinet mission plan and went on to form the govt. in Punjab and NWFP while the Muslim League formed the govt. in Bengal and Sindh.

But ML wanted power in Punjab and NWFP and that is why they launched "Direct action day".

Yes, I do.
But first read carefully what your very own Maulana Azad had said

Would make no sense if that is taken out of context. First get the context right.
 
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Is siddhu trying to make sure that BJP win all elections in India ? :lol:


I suspect after migrating to Pappu's party, he has become a pappu himself. Never seen a politician shoot himself in the foot so many times in such a short span.
Exactly ..such a big country yet an obsession with tiny Pakistan and kashmiri people
 
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The largest Pushtun city in the world is not Kabul or kandahar but Peshawar.
Pakhtun population is as high as 7 million by some estimates .The city of Karachi in Pakistan has the largest concentration of urban Pakhtun population in the world, including 50,000 registered Afghan refugees in the city, meaning there are more Pashtuns in Karachi than in any other city in the world.
 
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'The man who goes on a hunger strike has a soul': When Jinnah defended Bhagat Singh
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When Jinnah tried to save Bhagat Singh | जिन्नाह ने भगत सिंह को बचाने कोशिस की थी
On the freedom fighter’s 85th death anniversary, an account of how the founder of Pakistan called his trial a 'farce'.
Shoaib DaniyalPublished Mar 23, 2017 11:02pm
Much has been written about the Mohandas Gandhi-Bhagat Singh dynamic. Many Leftists see Gandhi’s refusal to intervene on behalf of Bhagat Singh as a betrayal. Yashpal, a comrade-in-arms of Bhagat Singh, wrote: “Gandhi considered it moral to put government pressure on the people for prohibition but he considered it immoral to put people’s pressure on foreign government to commute the sentences of Bhagat Singh etc.”

Less is known, though, of the dynamic between Mahomed Ali Jinnah (as he spelt he name) and Bhagat Singh. Jinnah and Singh did not interact much, given that they moved in widely differing political circles. Jinnah in 1931 was a politician who had missed the bus as far as Congress-style mass politics would be concerned. He was still at the high table of Indian politics, but largely as a technocratic liberal, much in the mould of his close friend and colleague Tej Bahadur Sapru. Like the other Indian liberals at the time, Jinnah strongly believed in constitutionalism, reposing faith in the institutions of Empire such as legislatures, courts and even the British Parliament to deliver progress to India. Marxist-Leninist Bhagat Singh was, of course, the polar opposite, believing that violent armed struggle was a legitimate way to overthrow the Raj.

The Assembly debate
Nevertheless, for a brief moment, their world’s intersected as Bhagat Singh was in jail for throwing bombs in the Central Legislative Assembly in New Delhi in 1929. Singh’s punishing hunger fasts though were making in very difficult to proceed with a normal trial. In response, the British administration, which was hell-bent on judicially murdering Singh by then, proceeded to get a bill through the Central Legislative Assembly that allowed the court to proceed with the case even in the absence of the accused if he “has voluntarily rendered himself incapable of remaining before the court”. This was unprecedented since a trial – by law and common sense – always required the accused to be present and defend himself.

In September 1929, Jinnah representing Bombay city in the Assembly, spoke powerfully, opposing this bill. Calling the trial a “farce” and a “travesty of justice”, he said that if the trial continued in the absence of the accused he “stands already condemned”. He also pointed out that Singh was a political prisoner and how the government was making a mistake by treating him a common criminal.

“Well, you know perfectly well that these men are determined to die. It is not a joke. I ask the honourable law member to realise that it is not everybody who can go on starving himself to death. Try it for a little while and you will see…. The man who goes on hunger strike has a soul. He is moved by that soul and he believes in the justice of his cause; he is not an ordinary criminal who is guilty of cold-blooded, sordid, wicked crime.”

Unlikely allies
Even as he spoke, the Assembly’s closing time neared and Jinnah was asked to resume the next day. Madan Mohan Malaviya, a modern Hindutva icon and one-time Congress President, came to Jinnah’s support. “Sir, cannot we go on for another 15 minutes?” Malviya asked the speaker urgently, only to see his request be rejected. (Two years later, Malaviya would also file Singh’s final mercy petition with the Viceroy).

The next day, Jinnah, the highest-paid lawyer in India at the time, took the Raj to task on the legality of Singh’s trial:

“It seems to me, Sir, that the great and fundamental doctrine of British jurisprudence, which is incorporated and codified in the Penal Code and the Criminal Procedure Code has very wisely not made such an absurd provision in the criminal law of this country and I am not satisfied that there is a lacuna in our system of criminal law.”

The outrage over the show trial of Singh made the Assembly reject this bill. This rejection by a puppet Assembly didn’t really mean much in actual terms though. The British Indian government simply ignored the House and introduced the amendment as an ordinance.

Judicial murder
Bhagat Singh researcher AG Noorani described the legal farce that followed after this:

“Having lost in the Assembly, the governor-general promulgated an ordinance, which was not subject to approval by the Assembly and expired after six months. It set up a tribunal to try the case. The entire trial was vitiated by flaws. A member of the tribunal, Justice Syed Agha Haider, was removed from the tribunal because, unlike the two European judges, he questioned the witnesses closely and repeatedly dissociated himself in writing from their orders. The tribunal which pronounced death sentences on the accused was itself under a sentence of death. The judges lost their office after six months. The accused were largely unrepresented by counsel and there was no right of appeal. The high court bar association set up a committee to consider the validity of the ordinance. Its report on June 19, 1930, found it to be 'invalid'.”

Bhagat Singh was secretly hanged on March 23, 1931 in Lahore. In 2011, the Supreme Court of India, echoing Jinnah, said that Singh’s trial was “contrary to the fundamental doctrine of criminal jurisprudence” since there was no opportunity for the accused to defend themselves.

This article was originally published by Scroll.in and has been reproduced here with permission.
 
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Sidhu stirs new controversy, prefers Pakistan over South India
Former cricketer was trying to highlight cultural affinity Indian Punjab shares with Pakistan. SCREENGRAB/FILE

Indian cricketer-turned-politician Navjot Singh Sidhu on Saturday once again stirred more controversy by saying that going to Pakistan is better than South India owing to the cultural similarities, Firstpost reported.

Sidhu, who was speaking at a literary festival in Kasol on Saturday, said, “If I go to Tamil Nadu, I don’t understand the language. Not that I don’t like the food, but I can’t take it for long. That culture is totally different.”

he is absolutely right , though northie sanghis will be in denial, And he has correctly pin pointed Tamilnadu out of all the south states, a state whose culture is is totally alien to India. This is what I been stressing all along. We need more Sidhus to point out the stark reality of south vs north and expose Hindutva India's homogenous propaganda.

Hindi (aka Urdu ) speaking Northern Indian states such as IOK, Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana, UP, Bihar, MP Gujarat should merged with pakistan for regional peace and prosperity.

Nope he doesn't.

You know how we know that ?

Because Sikhism is not even counted as religion in Pakistan's census form.

Because Sikhs have RUN away from pakistani punjab and into India while the SIkhs in South India FLOURISH and PROSPER.

Sikh population in pakistan punjab has decreased consistently over the last 70 years while Sikh population in South India has INCREASED consistently over the last 70 years.


And THAT is the difference between Fantasy and Reality. and the sooner you learn it, the better.

Sikhs have prospered in Canada, SE Asia , UK, US etc more than in India. Any Indian except the cow bet pani puri Hindi vendor such as Marwari, Gujjus, Sikhs will prosper in South India as it has rich resources and culture
 
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Sikhs have prospered in Canada, SE Asia , UK, US etc more than in India. Any Indian except the cow bet pani puri Hindi vendor such as Marwari, Gujjus, Sikhs will prosper in South India as it has rich resources and culture

LOL.... by that "logic" (If I can so grossly misuse that word), Hindus have prospered in all those nations more than India. South Indians has prospered more in those foreign nations than in South India itself.

What does that prove ?
 
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LOL.... by that "logic" (If I can so grossly misuse that word), Hindus have prospered in all those nations more than India. South Indians has prospered more in those foreign nations than in South India itself.

What does that prove ?

precisely, thats why your initial logic is flawed
while the SIkhs in South India FLOURISh and PROSPER.

Sikhs flourish and prosper in South India more than in North India
South Indians ( Sikhs) in foreign countries (Canada, UK, ASEAN countries etc) have prospered more than in South India
 
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