Sickening & probably illegal- Foreigners posing with their dead "trophies"

[Samurai_assassin]

Pakistan is cursed to have such hideous leaders.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Magnificent and majestic animals.

Question: Do foreigners really pay 125.000 USD just to kill one animal?

If so, where's the problem? With all this money you could breed thousands of animals, create thousands of jobs (e.g. hunting tourism) and and invest in infrastructure. If you ask me, this is an opportunity for Balochistan.

 

[somebozo]

We need volunteer to hunt these humans posing danger to innocent harmless endangered wildlife..let them have the taste of being chased by bullet..and then the hunter can post pictures with their trophy of dead white men!

Magnificent and majestic animals.

Question: Do foreigners really pay 125.000 USD just to kill one animal?

If so, where's the problem? With all this money you could breed thousands of animals, create thousands of jobs (e.g. hunting tourism) and and invest in infrastructure. If you ask me, this is an opportunity for Balochistan.

Problem is that this does not happen and money goes into corrupt pockets..

 

[KediKesenFare3]

So like I said, unless you are an absolute vegetarian who uses no fur, no leather, no animal products of any kind, you're just being a hypocrite. You don't have any objection to an animal being killed for your use.....as long as you can pay someone else to do it for you.

Btw, unless Pakistan is the only hunting country were this is the case that I have ever heard of, any game animal killed, in any country that I have ever heard of, must have it's meat used for food. You can not waste it. You cannot dispose of it. It is a crime to do so. That is the case in every single country that I have ever hunted in and everywhere in the USA.

Not true. You don't have to consume the meat in Europe or in Turkey. You can kill the animals just for fun if you have the license.

Problem is that this does not happen and money goes into corrupt pockets..

So, it's more an administration problem rather than an anti-hunting attitude?

 

[Desertfalcon]

Not true. You don't have to consume the meat in Europe or in Turkey. You can kill the animals just for fun if you have the license.

I haven't hunted in Turkey but I most certainly have in Europe and you are quite wrong. Only animals classified as "vermin", (foxes, raccoons, etc.) who's populations have to be controlled, can be killed without eating them. As for actual game animals, if you kill game animals such as deer, wild boar, etc. in any European country that I have ever hunted in, you must consume or give to your guide, charitable organizations, restaurants, etc., who will and it must be verified. The hunting tag stays with the carcass. In fact, at hunting check-in stations, which are mandatory, carcasses are inspected for hygiene and approved for consumption. Wantonly wasting game is a crime.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I haven't hunted in Turkey but I most certainly have in Europe and you are quite wrong. Only animals classified as "vermin", (foxes, raccoons, etc.) who's populations have to be controlled, can be killed without eating them. As for actual game animals, if you kill game animals such as deer, wild boar, etc. in any European country that I have ever hunted in, you must consume or give to your guide, charitable organizations, restaurants, etc., who will and it must be verified. The hunting tag stays with the carcass. In fact, at hunting check-in stations, which are mandatory, carcasses are inspected for hygiene and approved for consumption. Wantonly wasting game is a crime.

I'm pretty sure that in both nations, in Germany and in Turkey, you do not have to consume the meat even if you kill game animals. You can kill just for fun if you have the license. There are some limitations regarding species and quantity but I will ask my neighbor, who is a hunter.

 

[Desertfalcon]

I'm pretty sure that in both nations, in Germany and in Turkey, you do not have to consume the meat even if you kill game animals. You can kill just for fun if you have the license. There are some limitations regarding species and quantity but I will ask my neighbor, who is a hunter.

In Germany, you may be thinking of raised animals on private land, as they become the landowners property. he feeds them, he controls them. Again, it depends on the species and the individual animal. When I hunted there, which was popular with US military guys stationed there, it was very strictly regulated. You have to take a hunters class, pass tests, pass marksmanship and gun safety tests, etc. You had to have all paperwork, certifications, and licenses scrutinized, and all meat from any kill was inspected for consumption. Only meat that for whatever reason of health risks, were not. There may be exceptions, but those kinds of hunting regulations are pretty standard around the world. You even have to use most species game meat in Africa. I have had friends who hunted there who told of how local villagers would offer to help as you couldn’t import meat back to America, and so it was always given to them. In France, over 580,000 deer and 556,000 wild boars are hunted and killed each year, and much of the meat winds up on hunter's tables or food banks for the poor, or in good restaurants (donated, not sold.), which they depend on.

Btw, here is what I found on a popular guide service for Turkey that happened to have an article on Pakistan's endangered species in question...

"Torghar Conservation Program in Pakistan is a perfect example of controlled populations recruitment process of the almost totally extinct species. It actually features a strictly limited markhour hunt. In 1984, the number of the markhours went down to 200 animals – the critical range of species extinction. Now, the population totals around 4000 animals. Such a result became possible by virtue of limited trophy hunting for the old males, with low reproductive ability. 12 licenses are issued annually for the three markhour species. The possibility to receive a profit from legal hunting turned out to be very attractive for the local communities. Poaching mindset has changed for a conservational one. The profit received from one hunting trophy (an old billy) is many times higher than the price of the meat harvested by poaching. Besides that, let’s not forget that the local guides still keeps the meat – because the hunter is interested only on the trophy itself – horns and hide. The wild ungulates are a unique natural renewable resource. Competent exploitation allows to increase and preserve the number of animals in the particular population and also to conserve the common habitat and biodiversity of various regions on Earth." - Evgeny Kharitonov

http://stalker-group.com/en/news/163-hunting-pure-killing-or-conservation

Most people who don't hunt or have bought into the "politically correct", leftist anti-hunting propaganda, have no idea how regulated conservation and hunting is around the world.

 

[neem456]

Wow such a majestic creatures.
Sad to know pakistani govt is not doing anything to conserve them rather is issuing licences to kill them.

 

[ghazi52]

Wow such a majestic creatures.
Sad to know pakistani govt is not doing anything to conserve them rather is issuing licences to kill them.

Sad but true...

 

[Khanate]

Torghar Conservation Program:

• Only older male Markhors are hunted while safeguarding females and young bucks, this ensures population growth
• Money from trophy hunts is spent on community, community projects and conservation program itself
• One may be put off by the pictures, it is natural, but this is the only sustainable way to conservation, i.e., get the entire community invested financially into conservation

 

[khail007]

Anyone in this country to rein this corrupt government?
Seems that all institutes are toothless and kingship is fully established.
Now Pakistanis should prepare themselves and there generations to lick the boots of this Goon Dynasty for years to come.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Citizens ought to take out permits to hunt these creatures.

Of course, I'm talking about the foreign hunters who come here and take advantage, not of the poor animals that suffer us and them.

 

[ISI-1]

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WHY DOESN'T SOMEONE TAKE DOWN THESE HUNTER B*******S? I'D GIVE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT TO 'REMOVE' THESE FOREIGN OR INTERNAL HUNTERS!

 

[ghazi52]

KP refuses to let Qatari princes hunt houbaras

The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government on Saturday rejected the request of the federal government to allow Qatari princes to hunt the houbara bustard in the province.

MPA Ishtiaq Urmar, an advisor to CM Pervaiz Khattak for Environment, Forests and Wildlife, told DawnNews he had received a letter from the interior ministry seeking permission for Qatari princes to hunt the protected bird which was refused.

The federal government's request was refused as the houbara bustard is a rare and protected bird, Urmar said.

"Following the 18th Amendment, provinces are sovereign in taking such decisions," Urmar said, adding that "strict action will be taken against those found hunting rare animals and birds."

The houbara bustard is not only protected under various international conventions and agreements signed by Pakistan but its hunting is also banned under the local wildlife protection laws.

Sources earlier told Dawn newspaper that while the other three provinces — Sindh, Punjab and Balochistan — allowed Arabs with permits to hunt the houbara bustards, KP did not. They added that a while ago, a Qatari who had been hunting in the province had been caught and fined.

 

[khanmubashir]

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pak gov gives licences 4 hunt of markhor a few ever ear which range from few 1000 2 100000 $ depending on species there r occurences of illegal hunting but controlled troph hunting is best wa 2 conserve em if used properl as gives fund 2 conserve and permission is given on caluative basis hubara hunt isreal issue as is protected bird and and arab hunt witout a proper check