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Wrong your arty was definitely involved it ..it provided direct arty fire against Indian arty positions shelling Pak intruders.
If you want to discuss 1971, we can also discuss 800 years of hindu subjugation. In reality, muslim domination of India was the best thing which happened to hindus. It improved their gene pool and put some sense of wrong or right in their lives.
Those Hindus sure were cowards, forcefully converted under the sword.
Their language was changed, script altered to a foreign one. Suffering from a Stockholm syndrome, they reward their rapists by proudly claiming Arab, Turkish, Persian descent.
Sad tale of a once proud people that lived in the region now called Pakistan
Dude read abt it.
No arty was used frm our side.
I have read about it and I have talked with officers involved Operation Vijay..your artillery was used to against Indian artillery positions, shelling Pakistani intruders on peaks..you had Weapons locating Radar from USA which helped you pin point our arty positions(when they opened fire)..India then lacked these radars.
It was also used to choke up NH1 ..was being directed Pakistani intruders sitting on peaks...thats why peaks you still have in control ..are not being pursued actively..as they have little strategic or even tactical implications for NH1 and are surrounded by Indian posts.
We had one old 120mm on the hills which was mule packed to the top and was used to hit NH1. Only Pakistani artillary locating radars in Kargil were those in the imagination of Indian Army. Supporting fire from Pakistan came from WWII vintage British guns which are on semi permanent locations on our side of the border. We used minimum resources in Kargil. We are very conservative about how we deploy our resources. Kargil was never that important for us to mobilise our best equipment.
Where did I disrespect anyone's religion?
1) Its is a fact that hindus worship Hanoman, which is a monkey,
2) it is a fact they practice Kama sutra. Scenes from Kama sutra are engaraved in their temples
3) It is a fact that some hindus including their prime minister have publicly stated that they drink not only cow's but thier own urine.
stating publicly known facts is not disrespect. As far as tolerance is concerned, I would be very tolerant if these Indian respect this forum as a Pakistani forum and don't come here to spread their lies, misinformation, contempt and prejudice against Pakistan and its military. What's even worse is some people on the forum allow them to do so and take what they say line, hook and sinker.
Sure, ancient Pakistan was liberated. Totally agree. But the process is not done yet, modern Pakistan must continue it's liberation by changing it's official language to Arabic and enforcing strict sharia
It shall truly become the land of the pure
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From your reaction it seems.. clearly your men too were expendable, but why wouldn't you use WLR in such limited field of operations, even though you have had them since 80s ..it could have played havoc with India arty positions and saved your boys up there from our accurate arty fire.
They were all volunteers, they knew they were getting into an assymetric warfare situation. This was like a Commando raid with no guarantee of support or supplies. They knew the consequences of setting up positions inside your territory. Our artillary fire was effective without the radars because of the forwards observers on the hills. In any case artillary radars have very limited benefit in mountainous regions like Kargil.
You had very healthy supply lines up untill operation Safed Sagar was launched.
But accept it or not Kargil was an extremely strategically unsound operation...though it might have tactically well executed..lack of strategic foresight while planing it costed you dearly in terms of both men and reputation.. while having almost nothing to show for it.
It shows a military planners needs more than just cavalier attitude to execute a successful operation ie Compare it to our success in Siachen, where we still hold 2/3 rd of land.
Hey Ares ole,
Our supply line was a couple of mules everyday. You guys tend to make kargil into such a big deal to make your achievements look big. Read up on the older post on why this was not an unsound operation. This operation laid down the rules of engagement between Pakistan and its 10 times bigger enemy which are still valid today and you guys have not come up with a solution. BTW can't you come up with a better name, I keep confusing it with not a very pleasant part of human anatomy.
Hey Ares ole,.......blah........blah....... BTW can't you come up with a better name, I keep confusing it with not a very pleasant part of human anatomy.