shut up call to RANGERS by zardari,s govt & PMs quite support to target only MQM(crouptors paradise?

[Gazi]

That is not the solution, its a band aid solution. The solution lies in Local Body Elections.

It wont Happen because PPP Govt. is Strong enough to take care of ESTABLISHMENT they can also do the same towards Supreme Court and its Judgement as well. Forget that PPP would ever Allow LB System in Karachi or in Sindh. I think the Strength of COAS Raheel Sharif is Waring off now and PMLN is getting Stronger here.

 

[syedali73]

It wont Happen because PPP Govt. is Strong enough to take care of ESTABLISHMENT they can also do the same towards Supreme Court and its Judgement as well. Forget that PPP would ever Allow LB System in Karachi or in Sindh. I think the Strength of COAS Raheel Sharif is Waring off now and PMLN is getting Stronger here.

Nope, nobody can stand against the 'danda'. However, if the 'danda' bearer doesn't do his job then even insects would consider themselves as Rostam and Sohrab. If rangers continue to target MQM while leaving others untouched, this operation will fail more miserably than the similar operation that failed in 1992. While MQM is making lots of noise on the one sidedness of this operation, internally she is happy because in the long run this unjust will earn MQM more public support than ever before and the Urdu speaking community will be more inclined towards proposed secession of Karachi from Pakistan.

And no, Zardari or PPP government will not send Rangers back to their barracks because now Rangers are doing to MQM what Liyari's gang and TTP used to do before this operation. It is a win win situation for Zardari/PPP/TTP/ANP.

 

[Gazi]

Nope, nobody can stand against the 'danda'. However, if the 'danda' bearer doesn't do his job then even insects would consider themselves as Rostam and Sohrab. If rangers continue to target MQM while leaving others untouched, this operation will fail more miserably then the similar operation that was failed in 1992.

The Whole Credibility of COAS Raheel SHarif and our LEAs at stake here. Zarb-e-Azb have earned a great deal of Public Confidence for Army and Expectations have Increased quite High. Hope COAS Raheel Sharif get himself Focused and try to find a better a Route within to get the problem Solved. I think Establishment SHOULD PATCHUP their Matters with MQM and start Partnering with them in Karachi just like Musharraf Did and whole Karachi Remain lot Peaceful within that period. This could INCREASE Rangers Goodwill as well and then they would have Enough Public Support to get rid of Bigger Criminals in Rest of Sindh Province.

 

[syedali73]

The Whole Credibility of COAS Raheel SHarif and our LEAs at stake here. Zarb-e-Azb have earned a great deal of Public Confidence for Army and Expectations have Increased quite High. Hope COAS Raheel Sharif get himself Focused and try to find a better a Route within to get the problem Solved. I think Establishment SHOULD PATCHUP their Matters with MQM and start Partnering with them in Karachi just like Musharraf Did and whole Karachi Remain lot Peaceful within that period. This could INCREASE Rangers Goodwill as well and then they would have Enough Public Support to get rid of Bigger Criminals in Rest of Sindh Province.

Well Musharraf's example is not a good one. There are criminal elements in MQM and they need to be purged, either MQM does it voluntarily or Law enforcement agencies do it forcefully. However, as per Supreme Court's observation, similar criminal elements are also present within PPP and ANP, and if the rangers continue to ignore those, this will only erode military's credibility and pave way to a very undesirable situation in Karachi.

 

[Gazi]

Well Musharraf's example is not a good one. There are criminal elements in MQM and they need to be purged, either MQM does it voluntarily or Law enforcement agencies do it forcefully. However, as per Supreme Court's observation, similar criminal elements are also present within PPP and ANP, and if the rangers continue to ignore those, this will only erode military's credibility and pave way to a very undesirable situation in Karachi.

They have already been Mostly Purged and MQM is keeping itself low profile on that scale as no Shutdown Calls for last one or two months so there is something available to work out and MQM structure can also play a part to help Rangers curbing down extremists in Karachi so they need to be Pragmatic in this area. Here is what I think Establishment should do to pressure PPP.

1. Patchup with MQM for a CONDITION that they would remain Peaceful and wont create any Disturbance.

2. MQM needs LB System in Place and Establishment need Governor Rule to operate freely against all Criminals so help each other in that point at least.

3. Start Building Public Pressure to get rid of Sindh Govt. to bring Nawaz Govt. under pressure to support Governor Rule for Sindh.

4. Encourage Amin Fahim, Musharraf, Gabol, Jatois, Pagara and Zulfiqar Mirza to form some kind of Alternate Force in getting rid of PPP mess once in for all from Sindh.

 

[Zarvan]

Zardari ( Sind Govt ) have constitutional rights to send back rangers to borders, learn the facts before open your madarasi mouth.
They call them they can roll back them.

If he has balls he should try this on same day where his government vanished he would have no idea and he will end up in Jail lot sooner than he would get now. I know he can do that but what Army will do in return he need to think of that. They don't call them its Army who calls them in reality you go and learn what actually in Pakistan happens

 

[syedali73]

If he has balls he should try this on same day where his government vanished he would have no idea and he will end up in Jail lot sooner than he would get now. I know he can do that but what Army will do in return he need to think of that. They don't call them its Army who calls them in reality you go and learn what actually in Pakistan happens

It is you who needs reality check. Up top all these (politicians, judges, civil and military bureaucrats) are one and united in raping Pakistan. Few exceptions may exist though.

 

[Musafir117]

If he has balls he should try this on same day where his government vanished he would have no idea and he will end up in Jail lot sooner than he would get now. I know he can do that but what Army will do in return he need to think of that. They don't call them its Army who calls them in reality you go and learn what actually in Pakistan happens

To engage with you like a real
For Raheel Sharif PPP is same important as PMLN and PTI, he dealing with them same manner, the different is PMLN in center and other are main opposition parties. PPP has lot of " Shaheeds " what they learn after BB to not get more Shaheeds and enjoy good relation with establishment, no headache no pain and sing " Im happy happy "

 

[Zarvan]

To engage with you like a real
For Raheel Sharif PPP is same important as PMLN and PTI, he dealing with them same manner, the different is PMLN in center and other are main opposition parties. PPP has lot of " Shaheeds " what they learn after BB to not get more Shaheeds and enjoy good relation with establishment, no headache no pain and sing " Im happy happy "

General Raheel Shareef gives a dam about PPP he in fact is seriously pissed of on them to and if they would try to blackmail them they would just end up loosing there government. 16th December has changed everything which you are not able to understand now you will soon Mr I know things How I would not tell you but its going to be really bad days for PPP ahead.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

It wont Happen because PPP Govt. is Strong enough to take care of ESTABLISHMENT they can also do the same towards Supreme Court and its Judgement as well. Forget that PPP would ever Allow LB System in Karachi or in Sindh. I think the Strength of COAS Raheel Sharif is Waring off now and PMLN is getting Stronger here.

Was that sarcasm or you really mean that ? How often do you step out of Lyari ?
kadon ao na pindi

LB election wont happen until a fresh census happen which are expected in next few years (hopefully)

 

[Gazi]

Was that sarcasm or you really mean that ? How often do you step out of Lyari ?
kadon ao na pindi

LB election wont happen until a fresh census happen which are expected in next few years (hopefully)

Buddy did you even saw the content posted above????Things are not that simple in Politics. Army Chief was Stronger when Army was going against Taliban in Waziristan but in Karachi they are up against Militant+Political Forces with Support of fanatic levels. The whole OPeration is turning one sided and becoming Controversial here due to Complexities Establishment is dealing with in Sindh Province. LB System would be Political DEATH for PPP and they wont Allow it no matter they had to present themselves to the Courts and the only Solution is GOVERNOR RULE which is not possible without Federal Govt.'s Approval and that too is quite difficult to gain as PMLN wont Destabilize his Govt. by Authorizing Something like that.

2001 LB Mechanism is AVAILABLE and being UTILIZED with DESIRED RESULTS so census is not needed rather Political Will is needed to implement. It can be Modified Later according to Census but at least that system should be Implemented

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Buddy did you even saw the content posted above????Things are not that simple in Politics. Army Chief was Stronger when Army was going against Taliban in Waziristan but in Karachi they are up against Militant+Political Forces with Support of fanatic levels. The whole OPeration is turning one sided and becoming Controversial here due to Complexities Establishment is dealing with in Sindh Province. LB System would be Political DEATH for PPP and they wont Allow it no matter they had to present themselves to the Courts and the only Solution is GOVERNOR RULE which is not possible without Federal Govt.'s Approval and that too is quite difficult to gain as PMLN wont Destabilize his Govt. by Authorizing Something like that.

2001 LB Mechanism is AVAILABLE and being UTILIZED with DESIRED RESULTS so census is not needed rather Political Will is needed to implement. It can be Modified Later according to Census but at least that system should be Implemented

Exactly the same anathema ppp was making when rangers were chasing lyari gangs . They were reluctant to the very last minute in removing the obstacles from bilawal chowrangi and the minute they heard the machinery was coming they premptively removed it to avoid embarrassment. Further the arrest of uzair baloch and ayyan ali .ppp washed away from the country, Sindh govt is dying away. All this and you still have the audacity to call it a one-sided operation. Well maybe its not your fault. Its in your party's interest to declare it controversial to get some face-saving from Karachites and I truly understand it. I heard Sharjeel Memon was clamping down on some illegal shaadi halls owned by MQMers. I would suggest you to return him a favor and have your "Saathies" raid his constituency and remove the barricades. This will make our work easier.

2001 LB mechanism was fine for delimitations that came in result of the 1999 census. Its been a while now and demographics have changed. Im not sure what you mean by desired results and if that's what you WANT but there have to be new delimitations not just in Karachi but the whole country. By the way the census is not happening just for the LB elections, its a much awaited process for different developmental actions that have faced severe irregularities in past due to incorrect figures.

 

[S.Y.A]

Arrest and hang babur ghori and sharjeel memon: the two biggest land grabbers in Karachi, the rest will just wet their pants after that. also something needs to be done about zulfiqar mirza too, he himself is a big terrorist and patron of lyari gangs.

 

[batmannow]

Operation will go on and if Zardari will try to stop he will be taken care of and neither MQM will be left nor PPP

Stop your bull crap , just only for a province & for a political party , whole system.can't brought down ?
its simple , yeman is hot , sudis are pissd off at pakarmy which is misrepresented by Nawaz Sharif , who is not ready to give powers to the military , your courts are striking down the capital punishments & the military courts ?
No , its not the time pakarmy comes in & take the blame for every thing , this stupid croupted political system has produced in 9 years of damocrazy ?
& Nawaz is not ready to call in the governors rule on sindh or any where else ?
So , rangers has no choice then to become a tool of the political mafia rullung Pakistan .

 

[Pak Blooded]

Lol, u lost ur temper for no reason. Im not sure if you will label me something like insafian or madarsi as well. But i need to tell u ppp is in dire straits . If they try to send back rangers they will face a governor raajj.. Nawaz is pretty much playing the ARmy's game. Meesaaq-ejamhooriat is over. The only way out of this is for ppp and mqm to hand in their land grabbers and target killers or face the music , im not sure if you are a sympathizer of the cockroaches or u urself are a mota k2 dunhill or a tappi but im sure ur definitely a lauging stock here on the forum.

and what are you Gullu Butt or Poomi Butt. . . or just one poor little pussy cat (wanna be tiger)