Should the Indian Navy worry about China's new warship?

[LKJ86]

Possibly the limits of technology during the time. The MFSTAR used on Kolkata is much bigger than the SPY-1D, but India managed to stick the radar at the most prime location, which is a testament to India's design capabilities.

Unlike the AESA we use, American radars are PESA and much more bulkier and heavier.

Why China decided to copy everything the Americans have, that can only be answered by your people.

Why do new Arleigh Burke Flight III DDG and Type 055 DDG also choose that "stupid" design?

 

[Imran Khan]

indian navy is far far behind from china they can play in indian ocean only now

 

[randomradio]

Why do new Arleigh Burke Flight III DDG and Type 055 DDG also choose that "stupid" design?

AB Flight III is basically the same ship as Flight I. As for Type 055, it's a testament to China's shipbuilding capabilities.

Whereas look at Lider class.

The radars are way up high.

The same with the Zumwalt class.

The S band radar and X band radar go straight to the top.

So other countries are busy changing the "stupid" design, your words. You want your radar up as high as physically possible. The AB class, Type 052 and 055 are not optimal designs with regards to radar placement.

 

[LKJ86]

AB Flight III is basically the same ship as Flight I. As for Type 055, it's a testament to China's shipbuilding capabilities.

Whereas look at Lider class.

The radars are way up high.

The same with the Zumwalt class.

The S band radar and X band radar go straight to the top.

So other countries are busy changing the "stupid" design, your words. You want your radar up as high as physically possible. The AB class, Type 052 and 055 are not optimal designs with regards to radar placement.

So, do you think USA and China don't have the ability to choose the so-called optimal design for their new warships?

 

[randomradio]

So, do you think USA and China don't have the ability to choose the so-called optimal design for their new warships?

US has already changed it. Look at Zumwalt.

 

[LKJ86]

US has already changed it. Look at Zumwalt.

USA only builds 3 Zuwalt DDGs, and Arleigh Burke Flight III DDG will be her backbone in the future.

Besides, the design of Zuwalt is not the same as India's.

 

[Sanchez]

Just like China claims to have Indian chicken's neck, Indian navy has China's chicken's neck.
Guess that......

India does have a chicken's neck but not Indian ocean. You really are humourous.

 

[Kai Liu]

This article is deliberately make indians feel better:
for example, it says type 055's displacement is 11,000 ton, but actually this is the standard displacement, its full load displacement is over 13,000 ton, almost twice that of Kolkata...

But the only a few truth this article tells is: "Most major Indian Navy projects such as the Project 15A and 15B have faced delays due to issues in supply of components by vendors, integration of various systems and shipyard inefficiencies. The four Project 15B destroyers are three years behind schedule, caused in part by delay in delivery of equipment, including gas turbines, from Russia and Ukraine."
besides lack of money, india has to import everything from everywhere...

 

[Beast]

This article is deliberately make indians feel better:
for example, it says type 055's displacement is 11,000 ton, but actually this is the standard displacement, its full load displacement is over 13,000 ton, almost twice that of Kolkata...

But the only a few truth this article tells is: "Most major Indian Navy projects such as the Project 15A and 15B have faced delays due to issues in supply of components by vendors, integration of various systems and shipyard inefficiencies. The four Project 15B destroyers are three years behind schedule, caused in part by delay in delivery of equipment, including gas turbines, from Russia and Ukraine."
besides lack of money, india has to import everything from everywhere...

Not only that. It brag about quality of Indian warship system is on par with 055. Lol... Clearly an article written by an amateur. 055 uses dual band Type346A phases array radar. Clearly an edge over an export second rated single band phases radar. More over the 112 VLS deployed on 055 is universal cold/hot launched silo which can configure according the mission need which means same silo but can fit many types of missile. Indian warship has no such luxury. Using obsolete single type missile silo which is not flexible and clearly disadvantage.

More over the 130mm gun is superior than the tiny 76mm oto melara.

055 system from radar , intergrated mast that provide much superior stealth and superior weapon system which beats Indian warship quality hands down.

Another self bragging article that is delusion for Indians

 

[Kai Liu]

Not only that. It brag about quality of Indian warship system is on par with 055. Lol... Clearly an article written by an amateur. 055 uses dual band Type346A phases array radar. Clearly an edge over an export second rated single band phases radar. More over the 112 VLS deployed on 055 is universal cold/hot launched silo which can configure according the mission need which means same silo but can fit many types of missile. Indian warship has no such luxury. Using obsolete single type missile silo which is not flexible and clearly disadvantage.

More over the 130mm gun is superior than the tiny 76mm oto melara.

055 system from radar , intergrated mast that provide much superior stealth and superior weapon system which beats Indian warship quality hands down.

Another self bragging article that is delusion for Indians

Yep. Kolkata can't even match our 052C...

 

[Beast]

AB Flight III is basically the same ship as Flight I. As for Type 055, it's a testament to China's shipbuilding capabilities.

Whereas look at Lider class.

The radars are way up high.

The same with the Zumwalt class.

The S band radar and X band radar go straight to the top.

So other countries are busy changing the "stupid" design, your words. You want your radar up as high as physically possible. The AB class, Type 052 and 055 are not optimal designs with regards to radar placement.

Another useless reply by you. Zumwalt class is cancelled and USN goes back to more AB flight III design and Russia is not leader in naval radar design. Sighting them as example is not convincing. China and US has the most funded for military R&D and our philosophy in military direction is the Bible for all other countries to follow. If both of us claim top radar is no good. Very likely is no good. Who are u little India to tell us off?

Yep. Kolkata can't even match our 052C...

What u expect from Indian who lie about F-16 shot down and manipulate economy data to make themselves feel good?

 

[randomradio]

USA only builds 3 Zuwalt DDGs, and Arleigh Burke Flight III DDG will be her backbone in the future.

Besides, the design of Zuwalt is not the same as India's.

What I'm talking about is raising the radar to the top of the mast, which Zumwalt has accomplished. Which means even the Americans don't think AB is the best design.

They are going for Flight III because they can't afford the Zumwalt class design in large numbers. Just because AB is their backbone doesn't mean it's the best design.

It's simple. Any design that's seaworthy and is carrying a radar on top of the mast is a very good design. Anything below that is no longer the better design. If your radar can't see, then it's as good as a fishing boat.

The Kolkata class is carrying a radar that's bigger than the AEGIS radar, is AESA, and is carrying it on the very top of the mast, nothing's better than that today. This is basic physics.

Not only that. It brag about quality of Indian warship system is on par with 055. Lol... Clearly an article written by an amateur. 055 uses dual band Type346A phases array radar. Clearly an edge over an export second rated single band phases radar.

I doubt you have any clue about what you said there.

 

[rashid.sarwar]

but in terms of quality of weapons and radars, it is more of an even match

Now the indians can sleep with peace

 

[sinait]

The design is much better than American and Chinese ship designs due to the elevation of the radar. The higher the better.

So you are saying Indian MF Star is better than the dedicated X-band radar high up on the Chinese type-055 sensor mast together with its massive 346A long range radar.
Indians are Geniuses, either that or IDIOTS.
.

 

[Beast]

So you are saying Indian MF Star is better than the dedicated X-band radar high up on the Chinese type-055 sensor mast together with its massive 346A long range radar.
Indians are Geniuses, either that or IDIOTS.
.

They like to distort facts to make them feel better. Same like how they claim they shot down F-16 which proves to be a massive lie.

What I'm talking about is raising the radar to the top of the mast, which Zumwalt has accomplished. Which means even the Americans don't think AB is the best design.

They are going for Flight III because they can't afford the Zumwalt class design in large numbers. Just because AB is their backbone doesn't mean it's the best design.

It's simple. Any design that's seaworthy and is carrying a radar on top of the mast is a very good design. Anything below that is no longer the better design. If your radar can't see, then it's as good as a fishing boat.

The Kolkata class is carrying a radar that's bigger than the AEGIS radar, is AESA, and is carrying it on the very top of the mast, nothing's better than that today. This is basic physics.



I doubt you have any clue about what you said there.

Its not about money but fact is brings no benefit. You dont just build one unit if its really so good.

You can lie 1000 times but facts will be facts that the one clueless if you and still in denial. I have stated the point clearly with facts while u are just avoiding my point like trying to claim 76mm OtO melara gun is superior than 130mm gun in terms of firing power , range and destruction.