Should the Indian Navy worry about China's new warship?

[randomradio]

So you are saying Indian MF Star is better than the dedicated X-band radar high up on the Chinese type-055 sensor mast together with its massive 346A long range radar.
Indians are Geniuses, either that or IDIOTS.
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Type 055's design is only an improvement over the Type 052D. Yes, the MFSTAR is a much better design. Move your radar to the top, at least above the bridge.

 

[Beast]

Type 055's design is only an improvement over the Type 052D. Yes, the MFSTAR is a much better design. Move your radar to the top, at least above the bridge.

You are an idiot and just be in denial. Dual band phased array Type 346B is not just an improvement but an generation ahead. You crap single band is just a step below.

Keep lying, it will not make India better.

 

[pahadi]

India wins hands down in most UGLY LOOKING DESTROYER with its clownish top heavy MF Star radar.
Hopefully it don't capsize in a storm.
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Deep in your heart, you appreciated the design and looks of our warship, i can feel it.

 

[sinait]

Type 055's design is only an improvement over the Type 052D. Yes, the MFSTAR is a much better design. Move your radar to the top, at least above the bridge.

Move the long range radar higher and compromise on power and stability, no way when the only solution is a dedicated X-band high up that can do the job of defending against sea skimming missiles.

When hundreds of lives and ship are at stake only the best dual band radar with a dedicated X-band radar for finer resolutions can do the job competently, not some ugly looking half-baked radar that have its capabilities compromised trying to do both functions.

Deep in your heart, you appreciated the design and looks of our warship, i can feel it.

Yes, I am waiting for one to capsize in a storm so I can have a good laugh.
Just like good old times when your warship capsized in a dry dock and your submarine self explode.
HA HA HA, INDIANS ARE VERY GOOD JOKERS.
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[Beast]

Deep in your heart, you appreciated the design and looks of our warship, i can feel it.

Sure but it cant win PLAN one on one with our 052D.

055 is totally a different class and it need 4 india INS Kolkata just to take on one.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

That's doesn't change anything. Their supply zones are in the SCS during war.

Whereas Gwadar cannot help PLAN in any significant way. Their Djibouti base is much more useful, not a lot.

The Chinese have to come through the SCS to fight India.

you are just being arrogant or stupid . A Chinese naval base at Gwadar will be a nightmare for india .
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yeah SCS too play a significant role . it wil divide the indian navy too .

 

[Kai Liu]

You are an idiot and just be in denial. Dual band phased array Type 346A is not just an improvement but an generation ahead. You crap single band is just a step below.

Keep lying, it will not make India better.

And they have to pay tonnes of money to get this crappy radar and a miserable 32 missiles per ship, with a pathetic range and 2 Mach maximum speed... from Israel... Even though, their own capability is essentially.... ZERO...

However, this delusional indian guy still claim their technology is "on par with China" in another thread....
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/china-plans-to-have-8-type-055-destroyers.615301/page-2

Sure but it cant win PLAN one on one with our 052D.

055 is totally a different class and it need 4 india INS Kolkata just to take on one.

But they only have 3....

 

[Type59]

Indians like to brag about IN "indigenous" shipbuilding capabilities. Their newest destroyer extensively uses imported technology.

 

[Beast]

Indians like to brag about IN "indigenous" shipbuilding capabilities. Their newest destroyer extensively uses imported technology.

They keep distort facts to hide their inferiority and fear.

055 is the warship that will make IN tremble. They have zero things to counter it. It a war start now. IN is sitting duck and will be wiped out easily. Its a very vulnerable period for India nationalism to swallow it.

They need to make fake news and self bragging article to calm their nation.
@randomradio

Even US fans dare not dismiss this mighty 055 destroyer and admit its much better than AB destroyer and we have idiots indian claim INS Kolkata class quality and weapon is on par with 055 and only need to fear China shipbuilding speed. Such an ignorant statement. Who are u to fool? 3 years old kid? It just like claiming LCA 4th gen can take on J-20 5th gen fighter jet which is nothing but delusion only.

055 destroyer is just like the Kirov battlecruiser build by Soviet Union in 80s when just launched with long lasting might that dominate until the 2000s. 055 will dominate for at least 20 years until a new class of better destroyer is launched.

 

[randomradio]

Dual band phased array Type 346B is not just an improvement but an generation ahead.

No, it's not. The Type 055 needs an additional radar on top of the mast because they haven't been able to move the S band radar to the top, like we have done. The MFSTAR does everything better than the 2 radar setup.

Move the long range radar higher and compromise on power and stability, no way when the only solution is a dedicated X-band high up that can do the job of defending against sea skimming missiles.

When hundreds of lives and ship are at stake only the best dual band radar with a dedicated X-band radar for finer resolutions can do the job competently, not some ugly looking half-baked radar that have its capabilities compromised trying to do both functions.


Yes, I am waiting for one to capsize in a storm so I can have a good laugh.
Just like good old times when your warship capsized in a dry dock and your submarine self explode.
HA HA HA, INDIANS ARE VERY GOOD JOKERS.
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The S band radar we use in MFSTAR is gigantic. It is far more accurate than a much smaller X band radar.

you are just being arrogant or stupid . A Chinese naval base at Gwadar will be a nightmare for india .
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yeah SCS too play a significant role . it wil divide the indian navy too .

Yep, all the Chinese ships will come across the Himalayas.

 

[Hellfire]

you are just being arrogant or stupid . A Chinese naval base at Gwadar will be a nightmare for india .
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yeah SCS too play a significant role . it wil divide the indian navy too .

Better check with your military and then political leadership, on what role do they envisage for themselves in a potential (and unlikely) Sino-Indian conflict.

While you do that, be sure to ask why US is willing to supply India military tech (hint: it has nothing to do with Pakistan) and is indeed doing so. Apart from the commercial interests.

You may find that your appreciation of the situation here is - quite rudimentary and misplaced.

No, it's not. The Type 055 needs an additional radar on top of the mast because they haven't been able to move the S band radar to the top, like we have done. The MFSTAR does everything better than the 2 radar setup..

Quit playing with kids.

Apart from @LKJ86 who does post sense at times (but seeing some of his posts here, now I am not very sure), remaining lot is as ignorant as the word is able to define accurately.

Oh, are you having some fun playing with them? Then my bad

So, do you think USA and China don't have the ability to choose the so-called optimal design for their new warships?

Basically, what I think is that you are trolling. Post facts over how a higher located RADAR is not better than a lower one. Otherwise, pure physics, logic and sense dictates that higher the Radar, the better the performance. (HINT: Why AWACS?)

 

[Beast]

No, it's not. The Type 055 needs an additional radar on top of the mast because they haven't been able to move the S band radar to the top, like we have done. The MFSTAR does everything better than the 2 radar setup.

No S and X band will allow better and full coverage of all threat from level detection and high attitude neutralised. Its the best of whole world. Sooner this will be the bench setter for all other navies to follow. Indian MFSTAR as an export radar can never be the foreline as top end naval radar. It is even inferior compare to Sampson.

 

[sinait]

No, it's not. The Type 055 needs an additional radar on top of the mast because they haven't been able to move the S band radar to the top, like we have done. The MFSTAR does everything better than the 2 radar setup.

The S band radar we use in MFSTAR is gigantic. It is far more accurate than a much smaller X band radar.

Yep, all the Chinese ships will come across the Himalayas.

Obviously You are an IGNORAMUS.
X-band being of higher frequency is smaller and have finer definition with higher accuracy that is better at tracking smaller sized projectiles like missiles.
S-band, being much lower frequency is much larger sized compared to X-band, have longer range and better able to detect stealth.

MF-Star has Wiki stated specs of 25 km for sea skimming missiles, so it is better to have SMALLER HIGH ACCURACY X-BAND radar placed HIGHER UP on a sensor mast as on the Type 055.
S-Band MF-Star comes in 2 sizes, 1x2m and 3x3m, both much smaller than the 4x4m 346B of the Type 055.

But Indians, being the sour grape that they are either don't have the money for such high tech dual band radar employed on the Type 055 or their military suppliers don't the technology.
Zumwalt destroyer is said to have forgone dual band radar due to cost.
Beggar Sour Grape India NO MONEY??
Or Israel no technology??

Apparently you got your data from your behind.
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[pahadi]

Sure but it cant win PLAN one on one with our 052D.

055 is totally a different class and it need 4 india INS Kolkata just to take on one.

When did i compare type 55 with Kolkata class? I know my navy and I can compare it to PLAN of 2005...

 

[Beast]

Basically, what I think is that you are trolling. Post facts over how a higher located RADAR is not better than a lower one. Otherwise, pure physics, logic and sense dictates that higher the Radar, the better the performance. (HINT: Why AWACS?)

First of all, 055 still has radar mounted high on mast that detect low level small sea skimming missile but still retain the four panel active phased array at the bottom. This is to facilitate the powerful long range radar offered which is needed for anti-ballistic missile capabilities. Indian and British Sampson both which has high mast mounted radar but lack powerful four panel phased active array can no serve as ABM system.

055 naval design is the best of both world.

When did i compare type 55 with Kolkata class? I know my navy and I can compare it to PLAN of 2005...

lol.. self delusion. Maybe u can beg China not to use weapon from 2005 onwards as a fair game against India in events of war.