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Should surgical strikes videos be shown to opposition leaders?

Should india show evidence to its allies and opposition leaders?


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:lol::lol::rolleyes:

Its simple

You dont have any video evidence of the mythical sir-ji-cal strikes

Army knows this, Government knows this

Any videos you may have are either obviously fake or show the REAL action which was no more than artillery and small arm firing across the L.O.C


Its only Hindutva crowd and idiots that would be convinced of this sir-ji-cal strike nonsense
 
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This is how a politically correct surgical strike will be carried out by Indian Army
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ByMahesh Jagga
Posted on October 7, 2016


Following is a leaked transcript of briefing for the ‘Operation Saboot’ – a televised strike in P0K to make sure so-called liberals and opposition leaders are happy and satisfied.

Commanding Officer: At ease, officers. We have been tasked to do another mission, another strike inside Pakistan. And it gives me immense pride to inform that our unit has been selected for the task.

Cries of “Yesss…”, “Je Baat.. “ and other exultations filled the room.

Commanding Officer (over the din): Important thing is that strategic objectives have changed. Colonel XXXXXX from our Media Relations Cell has come to brief us about it.

Colonel: The objective of this strike is to provide a video, audio, pictorial & documentary evidence of the strike, clearly demonstrating that Indian commandos began from Indian soil, crossed Line of Control, went across to Pakistan, struck the terrorist camps and came back to unit HQ, in India.

Major: And I suppose you are going to tell us how to do it?

Colonel: Sure I do. Here it is. There are several sub objectives of the strike, I explain in chronological order and you can ask question after each one.

First task is to establish that the strike or raid emanated from India, the operative word here, is documentary proof. Operation begins with the unit watching the movie ‘Border’ and rejoicing when Sunny Deol uproots that hand pump when you get the call for mission briefing. That would irrevocably prove that you began from Indian territory.

Second task is to prove that you crossed the Line of Control.

Captain: That should be easy, we can show the barbed wire fence and the Pakistani towers across it.

Colonel: No. We need to establish beyond doubt. Barbed wire & towers can be disputed and claimed to be staged. So, find the NDTV reporter lurking around LOC and ask him to confirm that this is LOC. No one would be able to deny that.

Next is to prove that you are in Pakistani territory. On your way, enter a village, any house would do, ask for their identification. Only government identification would do, no identity cards issued by private organizations, schools, colleges or any such. Obtain two copies of the proof, get it attested by the Gazetted Officer to establish the nationality of the Pakistani.

Major: Errr… Where would we get a Gazetted Officer?

Colonel: He would be accompanying you.

Colonel: Next is to get to a terrorist camp, catch hold of two terrorists, obtain a confession from one that he is a terrorist, get it printed on an affidavit, get the same verified by the Oath Commissioner. Second terrorist has to sign as a witness.

Major: Why affidavit? He is a terrorist, na?

Colonel: You know that, terrorist knows that. But who else would believe it?

Major: Where would we get a … Okay, forget the question. Carry on.

Colonel: It is important that you don’t use force to obtain the confession; you appeal to his conscience, his feelings of brotherhood & humanity, his craving for peace, development, his children’s need for education and jobs to obtain his confession. Any use of force would negate the moral ground we wish to claim.

Also please ensure that the reasons given by terrorist for becoming one are poverty, lack of economic opportunities etc. Even family disputes would do, but ensure that there is no religious bend given to affidavits. We need a secular confession, not a bigoted one.

It is also important that you take group photographs of the unit with terrorists, for the sake of secondary evidence.

Final act before you get out. Go to a post office, send a packet of pictures taken, one copies of affidavits, identity proofs by registered post to United Nations Military Observer Group for India Pakistan, stationed in Kashmir so that they can directly observe the evidence. Please obtain a receipt.

And then, come back home.

Colonel (continued): Now, on composition of teams:

Each commando would be accompanied by two video photographers, one still photographer, one lightman, one audio expert, one oath commissioner, one first class gazetted officer, one judge of sessions court, their assistants, attendants and orderlies. Any questions?

Captain: (sarcastically) Any other requirement, sir?

Colonel: Yes. The composition of the team; it has to have proportional representation, from upper castes, dalits, backward classes, minorities etc. We can’t be questioned on our commitment to social justice.

Major: Do you think that while doing all this, carrying a cavalcade of civilians along, in such inhospitable terrain, in enemy territory, at night, we won’t be discovered? Pakis would find us in minutes and wipe us out.

Colonel: It hardly makes a difference. No one asked you to join the Army, you did because you could not get another job. Didn’t you?

Major: Did you not miss the important part, Colonel? About eliminating the terrorists?

Colonel: Well, that is left to your discretion. Killing terrorists is not the primary objective. You may, if you are so inclined. Just ensure that no one from a family belonging to a school headmaster is among those you neutralize. And don’t kill anyone without an confession under oath, taken in presence of a Judge.

Captain: But why go to such lengths to prove that we did a strike? We can simply leave such a huge pile of dead terrorists that Pakistan cannot refute the claim.

Colonel: You are missing the point completely, officer.

Pakistan believes you. They know you can decimate them when you want.

It is India who does not believe you. The objective of this mission is to convince Indians.

Disclaimer: This is a piece of fiction and a figment of my imagination. Any hurt caused to any individual or institution is regretted.
 
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No need to show video
What India needs to do is just release the pics of the building /launchpads which were hit
Sirf Yahi inka claim proof kar sakta hai
Agar woh un buildings ki pics release kartai hain to woh building damaged Hogi jo keh unki strikes ko sabit kardaingi aur ya phir woh biuldings Gira di gayi hongi jo keh phir sai unki surgical strikes ko proof kardaiga
Isko na release Karnai ka koi excuse nahi banta
@Shot-Caller @Tipu7 @SrNair @Oscar
Thoughts???
They don't have anything bro. Forget pictures they are not even releasing the co-ordinates of the places where the 'strike' happened. Because they know it will be exposed and they will be humiliated even more.
 
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They don't have anything bro. Forget pictures they are not even releasing the co-ordinates of the places where the 'strike' happened. Because they know it will be exposed and they will be humiliated even more.
Yeah exactly bro
In actual no surgical strikes happened so they don't have any proofs of it too.
If they carried out strikes and had proof of it they would have shown the proofs to the whole world
 
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I am not asking them to show video to me (public)..only to just some politicians ...
Yeah exactly bro
In actual no surgical strikes happened so they don't have any proofs of it too.
If they carried out strikes and had proof of it they would have shown the proofs to the whole world
maybe they are waiting for right time?just before Punjab elections so that they could get a huge mileage in both Punjab and UP?if they don't show it even then,this strike can more or less be proved fake...There are millions of indians like me who would question every claim army and govt makes after that..I still feel govt might have had video but waiting for right time to take as much political mileage out of it as possible..let us see(and to divert attention from kashmir for as long as possible )
 
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They don't have anything bro. Forget pictures they are not even releasing the co-ordinates of the places where the 'strike' happened. Because they know it will be exposed and they will be humiliated even more.
India has not released the coordinates so where exactly you took those international journalists to prove that there are no strikes?
 
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maybe they are waiting for right time?just before Punjab elections so that they could get a huge mileage in both Punjab and UP?if they don't show it even then,this strike can more or less be proved fake...There are millions of indians like me who would question every claim army and govt makes after that..I still feel govt might have had video but waiting for right time to take as much political mileage out of it as possible..let us see(and to divert attention from kashmir for as long as possible )
There is no mileage gain for PM when it comes to Punjab they are aligned with Badal and company and are bound to loose Punjab. Coming from Punjabi.

The bigger question what the hell will seeing the footage taken from a UAV with Thermal imaging going to prove anything. It is only going to give operation information to them and also the upper and better preparedness to the pakistani side. The only way I think it should be released is in theater where at least everyone will be rejoicing the attacks only after 10 years. It is fools like ours who areplaying political hands to open the box of pandora. What kejriwal and/ or rahul are going to give any insights into operational rediness of Special forces

FYI: the same trolling pakistani members will be rejoicing and making the fool out of you to make the demand.
@Joe Shearer
 
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There is no mileage gain for PM when it comes to Punjab they are aligned with Badal and company and are bound to loose Punjab. Coming from Punjabi.

The bigger question what the hell will seeing the footage taken from a UAV with Thermal imaging going to prove anything. It is only going to give operation information to them and also the upper and better preparedness to the pakistani side. The only way I think it should be released is in theater where at least everyone will be rejoicing the attacks only after 10 years. It is fools like ours who areplaying political hands to open the box of pandora. What kejriwal and/ or rahul are going to give any insights into operational rediness of Special forces

FYI: the same trolling pakistani members will be rejoicing and making the fool out of you to make the demand.
@Joe Shearer
At least some pictures of destroyed buildings?
 
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Videos and/or photos will be "leaked" just before UP and Punjab elections. Saare patte ek sath nahi kholte
 
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There is no mileage gain for PM when it comes to Punjab they are aligned with Badal and company and are bound to loose Punjab. Coming from Punjabi.

The bigger question what the hell will seeing the footage taken from a UAV with Thermal imaging going to prove anything. It is only going to give operation information to them and also the upper and better preparedness to the pakistani side. The only way I think it should be released is in theater where at least everyone will be rejoicing the attacks only after 10 years. It is fools like ours who areplaying political hands to open the box of pandora. What kejriwal and/ or rahul are going to give any insights into operational rediness of Special forces

FYI: the same trolling pakistani members will be rejoicing and making the fool out of you to make the demand.
@Joe Shearer

It is none of Kejriwal's or Rahul's business. On the other hand, showing this to selected and carefully chosen military attaches might be an option. If the ministry feels vulnerable; if it is self-confident, it should move on, cut out swaggering statements and let the military do its job.

At least some pictures of destroyed buildings?

Why?

What purpose does it serve?
 
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India has not released the coordinates so where exactly you took those international journalists to prove that there are no strikes?
You dumb breed won't stop arguing. The international media was taken along the line of control to observe and interact with the locals if anything like a strike happened. Your DGMO claimed they infiltrated 2,3 kilometers inside LoC so its not really a huge area to cover, and out of the 5,8 imaginary 'terror launch pads' that he claimed to have destroyed, atleast one could have been observed? There is nothing. We cleaned our slate by taking the media to the area now its the Indian army's duty to release atleast the co-ordinates so that we can take the media again to those exact places again. And they should have done it quickly because if they release the co-ordinates later they can make up excuses that Pakistan re-constructed these buildings. Why not tell us about the exact locations when the buildings are still down? Simple answer, because they haven't done anything. There is no security concern in releasing the co-ordinates right. I hope we can agree on that?
 
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You dumb breed won't stop arguing. The international media was taken along the line of control to observe and interact with the locals if anything like a strike happened. Your DGMO claimed they infiltrated 2,3 kilometers inside LoC so its not really a huge area to cover, and out of the 5,8 imaginary 'terror launch pads' that he claimed to have destroyed, atleast one could have been observed? There is nothing. We cleaned our slate by taking the media to the area now its the Indian army's duty to release atleast the co-ordinates so that we can take the media again to those exact places again. And they should have done it quickly because if they release the co-ordinates later they can make up excuses that Pakistan re-constructed these buildings. Why not tell us about the exact locations when the buildings are still down? Simple answer, because they haven't done anything. There is no security concern in releasing the co-ordinates right. I hope we can agree on that?
LoC is 750 KM in length, You cant take the media all across the LoC. Obviously you will know where the strike took place and you will not take the media there
 
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LoC is 750 KM in length, You cant take the media all across the LoC. Obviously you will know where the strike took place and you will not take the media there
Then why the F does your army not give the exact location to the international media????
Look man I know its hard for you but there was no surgical strike. It was just to fool the gullible people so that they feel satisfied. The sane ones asked for proof but were labeled traitors. Now I don't care what you think but claims have to be backed by proof. We proved our claims by taking the international media to those areas. you can keep thinking they were taken to the wrong places it does not matter. I won't argue further with you on this because if you still want to argue after this then you're better off being fooled by your army.
 
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