Should Pakistani flag be Changed?

[Myth_buster_1]

I wouldn't wish this Mullah scourge on any other nation, plus myth_buster has just been "Islamized" by some Mullahs in the west. First thing they taught him about being a Muslim start having issues with all things Pakistani. Jinnah is bad, flag is bad, I'm waiting till he comes up with the bit about how the stan in Pakistan sounds like Satan and hence its probably coined up by pagan Satan worshippers.

Good, so when you have no arguments just accuse me of something.
Btw i think you can come up with something more sensable then this.

“Anyone who invented something in our matter (Deen) that which
is not from it, it would be rejected.”
tell me if this does not relate to a star representing Islam.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

you dont have to be living under the same flag to be united. Good faith, good relations, trust, respect ect towards each other is teh best unity.

Yes thats one aspect of the unity.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

youre emotional and very naiive...no offence....but very emotional

i dont know who you surround yourself with, dude.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Hey i posted this matter 2 days ago on the Imran Khan thread thing.

Islam has no simples to represent it, the Quran is the book that represents it.

Exactly so why is the star representing Islam in the flag?

We got the Cresent and Star from Turkey, back then the Ottoman Empire. We thought the Crusades with the Cresent and Star. Like it or not it represents our History now, it shows the rise of Islam. Therefore in my eyes it should stay. I am sure Allah wouldn't mind as long as we believe in Islam and stick to Islamic values.

Yaar actually i am doing some research but I have not come across any materials which states Muslim army "saladin" used crescent and star. I do know at one point Muslims army during that time were using Crescent which only presented their battle field formation.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Yes thats one aspect of the unity.

what else is left...just the flag???

my question to you - i want a serious answer. What do you propose to end the civil strife and factionalization of society in Somalia and Sudan? End illiteracy in Yemen?


i look forward to your detailed response. I want solutions, not rhetoric.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

what else is left...just the flag???

my question to you - i want a serious answer. What do you propose to end the civil strife and factionalization of society in Somalia and Sudan? End illiteracy in Yemen?


i look forward to your detailed response. I want solutions, not rhetoric.

I am not any expert but I can give you a quick simple answer.

These nations will do Islam a great favor if they stop being the ambassador of Islam because they are doing a horrible job. Most Muslims of today are scumbags and I dont say that.
The Prophet (pbuh) said: "the nations will soon crowd around you like the gluttons crowd around their dish". One asked: "Is it because we will be few in numbers at that time?". The Prophet (pbuh) replied: "No, at that time you will be many, but you will be like the scum, as the scum of the flood; and Allah will remove the awe of you from the hearts of your enemies and Allah will throw Wahn into your hearts". One asked: "What is Wahn, O Messenger of Allah?". The Prophet (pbuh) replied: "The love of this life and the hatred of death".

I hope you understand my concern now.

 

[Rafi]

Pakistani flag is beautiful and will remain Inshallah till the day of judgement.

 

[Awesome]

Good, so when you have no arguments just accuse me of something.
Btw i think you can come up with something more sensable then this.

“Anyone who invented something in our matter (Deen) that which
is not from it, it would be rejected.”
tell me if this does not relate to a star representing Islam.

No a good case study can be done upon you, how Mullahs brainwash people. Re-examining your posts before you got into the hands of Mullahs this is quite evident. How did they teach you that to be more Islamic you need to have a problem with everything?

Pakistan does not have to follow the "deen", which is why the white also represents non-Muslims and guess what the Chand sitara is in white . More things to wrap your head around?

I don't follow the Hadiths as something above the Quran anyway. Some MAN wrote them, I follow what Allah said.

 

[A1Kaid]

bad choice as Black represents darkness, disappointment and evil

Uh oh... Because from what I understand Muhammad Rasullulah adopted a plain black flag (most likely with Arabic inscription from Quran revelations) to use to represent the Muslims in Arabia during his time.

Sometimes other solid plain colors were used by Muhammad Rasullulah and Muslim armies like green and white. Prophet especially used the solid plain black flag, named the "al-Uqaab".

You can see a pic of it below via link, but as i told you it's a plain solid black flag so there's not much to see.

http://www.metroflags.net/aluqaab-islamic-flag-nylon335.html

Check this link out too http://www.flags.de/fotw/flags/isl-ori.html#qur

So what your saying isn't always true.

 

[Developereo]

In the Middle Ages, as Europe lay in the lap of ignorance and despair, their intellectuals argued about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. This was the height of intellectual debate and the quintessence of knowledge for these scholars. Eventually, they decided to lay such supreme matters aside and focus on the more mundane questions of physics, chemistry and biology.

Perhaps we Muslims will follow their example some day...

 

[FreekiN]

15 pages?

May the Mods have mercy on our souls.

 

[A1Kaid]

In the Middle Ages, as Europe lay in the lap of ignorance and despair, their intellectuals argued about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. This was the height of intellectual debate and the quintessence of knowledge for these scholars. Eventually, they decided to lay such supreme matters aside and focus on the more mundane questions of physics, chemistry and biology.

Perhaps we Muslims will follow their example some day...

Don't make such ignorant remarks. Muslims already did such things before Europe. For hundreds of years in human history Islamic civilization drove science to new stages of advancement.


Now the situation today and past few centuries is different and in that sense I agree with you Muslims lack in scientific prowess, and need to make advancements.


Though don't make it sound like the Muslims never got around to advancing in chemistry (which historical records indicate is derived from an Arabic word!), biology, medicine, etc.

For God sakes ibn Sina wrote the "Canon of Medicine" which was used throughout the known world for hundreds of
Years as The medical textbook to study.

 

[muse]

And what have we done recently, or in the last 500 to 800 years??