peagle
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Pakistan should have recognized Israel long ago. For the first couple of decades it made sense as a principled stance, but once it became obvious Israel is here to stay, then how can it be a policy of not to talk, it does not make sense. Not talking is not a proactive policy. It is called being lazy and childish, as India is doing right now.
The world has been supporting Israel, even before it was created and that support only increased with time, in so many ways. How did anyone think that you will find a solution by not talking? I will never understand. It was and is a stupid policy, and should be done away with. But, how the Arabs did it, for sake of their personal gain, that is stupid, selfish, and has weakened the Palestinian cause, there is always a better way of doing things.
There is no need for full diplomatic relations,
A. recognize Israel's right to exist.
B. with Tel Aviv as the capital, not Jerusalem
C. recognizing the limits of Israel borders excluding all occupied territories, so making a clear differentiation.
D. Limit trade barring a permanent solution (incentive), when something is alive it can be started and stoped to cause an effect, when there is nothing, your actions will not have any effect
E. Limit diplomatic presence or the level at which diplomatic exchange takes place, that is also effective, because it is an instrument of action. Turkey has relations with Israel but it starts and stops to show displeasure, that is more effective than doing zero, because there are no relations, you are doing zero.
If you were powerful, then having no relations would hurt, right now it is an illogical position.
We need to realize that we have already paid a heavy price, do you even realize how much we would have benefited by having the Israeli lobby on our side through our history. People have forgotten that we have already paid a very heavy price by having the Israeli lobby in the western countries, especially America, actively working against Pakistan for the last 70 years.
If we are left alone now, it will be like living on a desert island, try and survive then. China is our friend because we have value, when you are on a desert island, China will treat you like an idiot, and treat you how they wish.
Our main concern by far should be Kashmir, how do you think you will help the people of Kashmir by being on a desert island?
Why does everyone forget the Palestinians have never sided with the people of Kashmir, but India for god sake, talk about hypocrisy. Is Kashmir blood cheaper then Palestinian blood? Far more Kashmiri have been murdered then Palestinians. Time to wake up and make sensible decisions and not let ourselves be ruled only by emotions.
No, Pakistan may be poor but it is a large country 5th largest out of 200 countries, that has value, it means you can be sidelined, but you cannot be ignored, especially with nuclear weapons, and other capabilities we have, I won't go into that as already this is getting longer then I had planned.
No dejaali camp. It is the camp of my prophet, my Mohammad, I belong in that camp, no Arab no dejaali (interesting word). It is his teachings that tell me not to be an idiot and use my head, be sensible and think clearly, that is the lesson I received from my prophet.
Yes, very true. But, Pakistan is not made of glass, these lots are scared of Pakistan, there is a limit to what they can do. If you think Iran is troublesome, you have no idea what Pakistan can do if Pakistan decides to play dirty, get naked, no hold barred fight. BUT, THEY DO.
It shouldn’t be our main concern, the concern should be to act wisely and sensibly.
This is just dramatic melodrama, hype without the reality, don’t even need to think about this aspect, because it is detached from reality.
This is just conjecture, illogical scaremongering, let us just make sensible decisions on what needs to be done to GET RESULTS, and leave our emotions for our children, we are grown-ups, and it is time to make grow up decisions.
