Should Pakistan recognize Israel?

[Signalian]

I think it's more than that.... Iran's model is not sustainable in the long run.

Most experts believe it will implode.

I don't buy the BS that the Arabs are exclusively making peace with Israel because of the Iran-phobia... That is just Fake News Mainstream media sheeple disinfo..

Yes, the Saudis fear Iran... But it beyond that... It's beyond Iran...

It's about the fact that the new Arab-Zionsit leaders have huge disdain for Islam and view it as a regressive force to be crushed. They are fully bought into the Western capitalistic Zionist global financial system.

This is the Arabs saying... I'm in this for myself and my seat of power...

The next question becomes...

Let's say Israel goes to UAE after a some time of "brotherly" love... Expell all Pakistani from UAE because Pakistan continues to defy us and India is our Allie.... Do you really think the drunken UAE ruler will sya, "No, Bakistani Muslim my brother?"...

Hell no!... Why else have the Saudis, Emirati, Etc Etc... Been giving Modi medals???

Maybe you should look at solutions rather than start bickering about problems and pointing fingers at others.

 

[Clutch]

WILL PAKISTAN LEAD UMMAH EL MUSLIMEEN ON YOUM EL QIYAMEH???

AZADI EL FALISTEEN being gained under the PERCHAM EL SIYAH??? Will Lashkar-i-Khalifa Imam Mahdi arise from Riyasat El Khursan (Al-Pakistan)???

It feels like this is becoming more & more likely!!

When I look k at Pakistan all I see is Corruption and moral decay.... In Lahore, there are more dug and sex parties than here in the West...

I went to model Town park a year or so ago... The moral decay was in the open for all to see...

How will pakistan lead the morally right if; t itself is a stray

 

[Clutch]

Maybe you should look at solutions rather than start bickering about problems and pointing fingers at others.

My only point is... Is Pakistan prepared to be the only one out?... It seems like... That at lighting speed the Arabs are.willing to sell out the Palestinians...make peace with Israel + India.

Where does that leave Pakistan? I. Only asking questions... I do not have any answers...

 

[Hareeb]

I think it'll not effect Pakistan much. Pakistan has a policy stance about Palestine and Israel. The inscription, beared by Pakistani passport, outlining the invalidity of passport in regards to Israel is meant to be something. Even if Arabs recognize Israel, Pakistan'll not.
For Israel-Arab alliance, Pakistan has nothing to lose. After UAE-Israel agreement, Isreal bombed Gaza - killing Arabs but not Pakistanis. Pakistan should be thankful to God that she is not in M.E. One day, Isreal will engulf these Arab states one by one and we will be happy seeing them turning into dust and enjoying our freedom.

 

[Musalman]

1. What should Pakistan do?

1. No matter what, Pakistan should never recognize Israel, unless they make peace with the Palestinian.

2. What are the risks to Pakistan if it remains one of the only states that doesn't recognize Israel (exception Iran)?

   NO risk, Israel is not at our border. There will be alot of resentment in Arab world against their government decision. This will not spill into Pakistan.

3. Would the new Zionist-Western-Arab alliance then place Pakistan in the same camp as Iran and destroy Pakistan via same sanctions?

   We are not part of Iranian camp, will never be. Nevertheless, the prospective alliance will further create resentment in their communities.

4. Is it time to join the Dejaali camp in order to survive or die with honor?

   It is better to stay away.

5. With Arab states making peace with Israel... Mossad and Israel will wage full scale war against Pakistan with through India and directly. Can Pakistan handle the heat?

   They can do that now, but they did not wage a war against us.

6. Without Iranian oil, is Pakistan prepared to for the global onslaughts ... Even the UAE and Saudi Arabia the new Allies of Israel will be supporting terror outfits like TTP and Jahil Mullahs to break pakistan. Can a poor Pakistan survive the new Zionist Arab onslaughts?

   Now now , don't get carried away.

7. With the world Bank under Zionist control, can an indebted pakistan survive without loans?

   of course it can

 

[Shehr Abbasi]

When I look k at Pakistan all I see is Corruption and moral decay.... In Lahore, there are more dug and sex parties than here in the West...

I went to model Town park a year or so ago... The moral decay was in the open for all to see...

How will pakistan lead the morally right if; t itself is a stray

I feel that there should be Aziz Tabdeeli for the name of Shehr-i-Lahore!!! It is a Na-Jaiz & Na-Islami Nam!!

Inşallah, it can be renamed to “Gulbahar”!!

 

[Clutch]

I think it'll not effect Pakistan much. Pakistan has a policy stance about Palestine and Israel. The inscription, beared by Pakistani passport, outlining the invalidity of passport in regards to Israel is meant to be something. Even if Arabs recognize Israel, Pakistan'll not.
For Israel-Arab alliance, Pakistan has nothing to lose. After UAE-Israel agreement, Isreal bombed Gaza - killing Arabs but not Pakistanis. Pakistan should be thankful to God that she is not in M.E. One day, Isreal will engulf these Arab states one by one and we will be happy seeing them turning into dust and enjoying our freedom.

I agree somewhat... But I think you are being a bit shortsighted...

Let's say Arabs all make peace with Israel... Who do you think Israel will turn all their attention to next?... Answer: Pakistan.

Now, with all Arabs converted to Zionism... What do you think the Israeli will do next.. very easy... They will ask their new Allies Zionist-Arabs:
1. To ban Pakistani from the jobs.
2. To ban Pakistani from all future Hajj and Mecca... The Israelis didn't have this leverage before... But with the new MBS and UAE Arab-Zionsit alliance.. they Jews defacto have that power... They in essence can have some authority over Mecca and Medina
.... Think about it.

 

[Clutch]

1. No matter what, Pakistan should never recognize Israel, unless they make peace with the Palestinian.
2. NO risk, Israel is not at our border. There will be alot of resentment in Arab world against their government decision. This will not spill into Pakistan.
3. We are not part of Iranian camp, will never be. Nevertheless, the prospective alliance will further create resentment in their communities.
4. It is better to stay away.
5. They can do that now, but they did not wage a war against us.
6. Now now , don't get carried away.
7. of course it can

+1

I am with you in spirit and thought... However, I differ in one concept.. I don't think it would be that easy to remain as neutral or uninvolved.

The Israelis have made clear how they view Pakistan... Hence their physical involvement in the recent failed attack by India.

I truely think things are going to get harder for Pakistan... Especially if they come for pakistan directly.

UAE views it's relationship with Israel and India as being more preciously and valuable than the indebted Pakistan. It will use its space to fund TPP and ISIS into Pakistan with Mossad and RAW hand in hand...

 

[Clutch]

The sentiments of the Arab population doesn't matter..
They are all governed by dictators some wearing garbs of kings and sheikhs as appointed by the British.

The Arab population is under servitude, uninformed, disinterested, complacent, handicapped, or disenfranchised.

Their new Zionist-Arab rulers determine their destiny.

 

[Hareeb]

I agree somewhat... But I think you are being a bit shortsighted...

Let's say Arabs all make peace with Israel... Who do you think Israel will turn all their attention to next?... Answer: Pakistan.

Now, with all Arabs converted to Zionism... What do you think the Israeli will do next.. very easy... They will ask their new Allies Zionist-Arabs:
1. To ban Pakistani from the jobs.
2. To ban Pakistani from all future Hajj and Mecca... The Israelis didn't have this leverage before... But with the new MBS and UAE Arab-Zionsit alliance.. they Jews defacto have that power... They in essence can have some authority over Mecca and Medina
.... Think about it.

IMO, Pakistan and Israel are more like ideological adverseries - for past 70 years, other than using proxies, they have not indulged themselves into a direct conflict and I don't see them at war in a nearby future.
Well, for you second point, UAE and KSA are already hiring more Indians than Pakistanis.
As for Islamic ritual of Hajj, Pakistan is a big source of revenue for them, why would they ban Pakistan? And they are into an agreement but not into a master-slave relation to ban Pakistan.

 

[Clutch]

As for Islamic ritual of Hajj, Pakistan is a big source of revenue for them, why would they ban Pakistan?

As guided by Israel to do so as a pressure tactic...

It is just a hypothetical scenario... But based on the new Saudi-Israeli Alliance

 

[Clutch]

IMO, Pakistan and Israel are more like ideological adverseries - for past 70 years, after from using proxies, they have not indulged themselves into a direct conflict and I don't see them at war in a nearby future.
Well, for you second point, UAE and KSA are already hiring more Indians than Pakistanis.
As for Islamic ritual of Hajj, Pakistan is a big source of revenue for them, why would they ban Pakistan? And they are into an agreement but not into a master-slave relation to ban Pakistan.

You are still viewing things from current state ... With the new Zionist-Arab alliances all those relationships are now changed.

It's not about the few $$ they get from poor pakistan hajjis... The $$$$ from the new Zionist alliance will be much much bigger...

 

[Xone]

if recognition of Israel brings justice to be the suffering Muslims, Pakistan will do it first. but if it brings miseries then stay away from it.
what benefits Pakistan is going to have ? is it solving Kashmir problem or Palestine? Sorry, it is not the offering. recognition is only aiming at strengthening Israel's legitimacy over Palestine's land.
if there is something wrong, oppose it, if you can not, say it. the third stage is to remain silent.
still away from joining the oppressor.
If Pakistan left alone opposing the oppressor, what is wrong in it?
Believe it or not, Israel and the US are very wary of Pakistan's military might. they will do their best to mitigate its effects on Muslim countries.they will go on weakening the power on Muslim countries, whether they recognize Israel or not. so best to have an open enemy than a disguised friend.
MY fear is, there would be no surprise if Pakistan does the same as UAE, as many things are going on unnoticed to the public Pakistan too, may fall prey to some adventurous authoritative decision-makers, the right-wing in the country will be silent as Pakistan would be in allegiance to KSA, both succumbed to same sinful act together. one due to monarchy other due to military effection to F16.
One thing is sure, whether Muslims recognize Israel or not it is to be there to teach them a lesson.
My personal experience is as long as you do not accept your mistake, you will not correct it.resultantly you went on suffering owing to your own mistakes, while you hold others responsible for it. the need is to watch our actions and correct our mistakes before it is too late. too late to find a remedy.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Pakistan is behaving as if the skies have fallen now that UAE has recognized Israel. Chill nothing is going to come out of it, even if tomorrow Pakistan recognizes Israel nothing will come out of that either. It's just business and more dollars. In international diplomacy there are no permanent allies or enemies and its every man for himself. Pakistan has no direct threat from Israel and the vice versa.

 

[Clutch]

Pakistan is behaving as if the skies have fallen now that UAE has recognized Israel. Chill nothing is going to come out of it, even if tomorrow Pakistan recognizes Israel nothing will come out of that either. It's just business and more dollars. In international diplomacy there are no permanent allies or enemies and its every man for himself. Pakistan has no direct threat from Israel and the vice versa.

Why did the Israelis (unofficially) join India in the failed attack in 2019. Lots of credible sources (including Indian ones) reported that.

Other than that, there are other events where Israeli were known for covertly attacking pakistan.

It is a big news for pakistani beyond pakistan. It has to do with religious prophecy beliefs and eschatology ... Something you perhaps won't understand...